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Apr 25, 2024 14:53:57   #
AuntiE wrote:
My thoughts on teachers who elect not to would be to still teach them about telling students to drop, turn desks over while she locks the door and gets the file cabinet blocking the door. Then they use the ladder to get the hades out. It is complete idiocy to wait for the police to arrive to rescue them. Get them out and as far away as possible. Oh, then sit down! No standing up to be a target!


Very good.... I agree..
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Apr 25, 2024 14:46:10   #
Rose42 wrote:
It should not end with 40 hours of training. They should continue at a bare minimum quarterly to stay current


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Apr 25, 2024 14:45:34   #
AuntiE wrote:
I agree, the ladder idea is outstanding. Get your students the hades out of the school!

Jewish school. The plan was designed by an IDF soldier visiting her family when the October attack took place. Unconfirmed rumor other Jewish schools have implemented similar protocols. It would seem the Jews highly value their children.


Jewish,,, good to know... and I like most of the ideas you mentioned..
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Apr 25, 2024 14:44:20   #
AuntiE wrote:
Honestly, any teacher who volunteers for this is gong to already be a gun owner and probably one who goes to the range to shoot and keeps their sk**ls fresh.


Which brings up one more possable downside, the emotional view of the prospective teacher.. You I would see as a plus and do well. but I think many who would elect to be a teacher would not be versed in gun use or want to be.. but you did say volunteer so that would clear the undecided.....

So any state which elects this action will have a lot to consider in getting it done.. I would hope the publicizing would be sufficient to make the sicko pass on the school target..
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Apr 25, 2024 14:37:12   #
AuntiE wrote:
You are a Marine and cannot figure this out?

The very first thing she should do is tell her students to drop flat on the floor and turn their desks onto the floor in front of their bodies.

If the teacher is tactically smart, her file cabinet is next to her door, thus as she locks her door she opening the cabinet to retrieve her gun. If she is even smarter, she has made sure the file cabinet is weighted so she can move it in front of her door.

Going even further, she has purchased a heavy duty home style fire ladder for her classroom to get her students out.

Known fact, every single class has at least one extremely mature responsible student. That student is responsible for getting the ladder while the teacher is guarding her, now file cabinet covered door.

Hopefully, said teacher’s gun is a 45 with hollow point ammunition.

All the above is now standard protocol in a private Yeshiva school since October 2023. It has been practice drilled several times. Gee, I wonder why.
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Good thinking and logical.. for sure the ladder...

By the door, for sure..

I would change the gun se******n,, probably make some options. but say a 9MM would be better for the lady guns, lighter to hold still, low kick back which can be a concern for some. Not real light caliber.. need to have a punch..

Yeshiva ????? lost me.. a location or style?
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Apr 25, 2024 14:10:32   #
XXX wrote:
I would figure since the teacher chooses to carry they choose where to keep 🤷


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Apr 25, 2024 14:05:39   #
XXX wrote:
A pistol in the pocket. I figure it's up to the teacher


That was my mental picture of the practicable approach.. more darn details..
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Apr 25, 2024 14:00:42   #
Lily wrote:
Duh,

I didn’t know they had stopped making gun safes for the teacher to keep their gun in.


it is all about accessibility for the quick move when the shooter is running up the hall. already locked, loaded and finger on the trigger...

Other than that reality, it is a good idea... where would the placement be?? by the door, in the cloak rooom? next to the f**g? near the black broad? do they still use those?

How about the broom closet? The more I write silly, the more the question seems real. by the teachers desk?
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Apr 25, 2024 10:46:30   #
archie bunker wrote:
This is what you have blessed us with!


nice comment.. archie..
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Apr 25, 2024 10:42:29   #
XXX wrote:
A law passed by Tennessee congress would allow teachers to carry. They would need a mental check and 40 hours of training and the approval of the school official. It will likely be signed by the governor. Do you think this is a good idea? Should we expand this to other states?



This has always been a thorny issue for me.. first reaction is , OH YES...

I have no doubt that those teachers who gave lives to block doors and hide students would do the job and do it as needed..

But than,, where will Mrs Smith keep her weapon? top right hand drawer, all 30 students would know just where to find that gun and would show the class, teacher and the world what was what.. they would do it.. shot every one they did not like..

So I may never be sure.. But the comment AuntiE made about investing in more security rather than more administration seems to be the best so far..

The punch board doors have been the death of as number of teachers and even students trying to keep out the shooter.. better control of entry, montering of the building, should work but did not in the texas border town..

I should also say, the image of the math teacher walking with a gun on his hip is not one I want to dominate school day memories for any kid... but compared to recall of the shooting it pales as an issue..

So, in each case the details should be worked out very carefully... but is seems we all agree something must be done.. But turning schools into armed camps should not be the goto..

I will add,, in my high school the makeup of the teachers included no less than 8 ex marines, one airborne, and I am sure a few more vets.. all of whom would have made joke of any shooter trying to have a blood bath at our school.. so teach se******n could well be changed by this rule..
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Apr 23, 2024 20:39:05   #
LindaK wrote:
I don’t trust people like him anymore. Very untrustworthy imo, just like their liberal media press say things that also aren’t true (or are taken from liberal news who often alter the supposed ‘t***h’ by making the people believe their 1/2 t***hs, when the full quote is often quite different.). This personal belief comes from me, a woman who in the past has v**ed for candidates from both sides of the aisle along with Independents. In CA before we retired I was registered as an American Independent. That wasn’t a choice the state we retired in offered.
I don’t trust people like him anymore. Very untru... (show quote)


All hope is gone for those who cling to the orange lies from the criminal of the right wing..
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Apr 23, 2024 20:35:56   #
LindaK wrote:
More lies out of Pelosi’s mouth. She’s the dem responsible for withholding the name of her C*****l p****e officer who k**led a veteran for entering our Capitol. Refused to give out his name, hid him from the news/public hearing why he murdered an American vet.


Officer Byrd was mentioned/named in days.. he should have kept shooting. than we could give him an award for most bodies left on the capital steps.... atta boy.. wow.. He was never hidden, he was never involved in Murder .. k*****g a terrorist attacking our government should be awarded not bad mouthed by the unwashed orange coconspiritors..
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Apr 23, 2024 20:31:32   #
JFlorio wrote:
He’s too stupid to understand that Reagan’s tax reductions had no negative affect on Social Security.


Damn J, you keep that dumb statement in mind next time the right wingers cheer over the short life span left for SS before it fails as they have wanted for over 50 years.. what do you think they, you, and I and our offspring down the the time line will do without SS???

If you would, look up the available funds for SS and also the IOU sitting around given as collateral for moving ss funds to the general fund to the needs of the moment to support yet more unneeded right wing aircraft carriers or space war craft...
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Apr 23, 2024 20:26:18   #
LindaK wrote:
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Lol. I didn’t use the word ‘warehouse’. Obama did intentionally make them unavailable to be reviewed by anyone for at least 5 years. Has his p**********l library been built yet? Are people in power flocking in to review his papers/ documents, or is this another time when they take special privileges meant only for the dem presidents?


That seems truly dumb.. who told you that or how did it come to your atten?

If no link or backup, what do you think could be the motive for doing such a thing as locked up for 5 years.. why not 50 years or a full century.. whoever dreamed up that lie did not think it thru..
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Apr 23, 2024 20:23:10   #
EmilyD wrote:
No the opposite...he told me he is going to donate his next p**********l salary to ME!!!!
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LOL,, good one Em... hell trump would never give to anything or anyone unless he got more in return.. he used his own foundation as a petty cash for his needs any given day..

Trump would not give to a starving child left on the steps of his whorehouse..

this puppy would be a great addition to the yard at my house..

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