peter11937 Loc: NYS

The Little Ice Age ended circa 1880, so it warmed. Just another cycle in nature.

jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho

https://youtu.be/C35pasCr6KI

https://youtu.be/E-GdRJUDB-E

these links require cut and paste into your URL.
As others have stated, there is science, and then there is propaganda to meet an agenda. In your case your vomiting the lies of a well planned agenda

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Remove the "s" from http and the link goes hot.

Nickolai

Mankind has adapted to colder and warmer average temperatures but not with hundreds of millions of people living In critical areas of sea level rise. in the last century seas have risen 8 inches but since 1990 seas levels have been rising at twice the rate as the previous 80 years.

peter11937 Loc: NYS

No, I have a home movie that was taken in the mid 1930's that shows a local shoreline and a house with a boulder at the water's edge and the water The proportions are the exact same than as now, including the high tide marks. So either the rise took place in the 15 or 20 years prior to the film, or the rise is more on the order of one to three inches. As the glaciers stopped advancing 18,000 years ago and then melted, the sea levels rose about 300 feet. But these days we're about out of land based glaciers that are melting. Some are growing.

Richard94611

Yes, there must be a conspiracy among thousands of scientists who are working in the field of climate science and global warming, on the atmosphere and the oceans, on carbon accumulation, on the chemical analysis of various markers left by global warming. These thousands of scientists must all be part of a giant conspiracy -- BladeRunner called it something like the greatest conspiracy known to mankind --

Not likely.

However, we do know that companies including Exxon-Mobil have been paying people to cause intellectual confusion over the idea that global warming/climate change are happening and that there are things we can do to slow it down and ameliorate it.

It is a replay of the American Tobacco Institute's way of dealing with the threat of legislation regulating tobacco and cigarettes when they paid people to cause confusion over the issue of smoking and cancer. And you folks have fallen for it. The worst part is not that you disagree, but that you refuse to examine the evidence that has accumulated, such as what is included in the course I started this thread by mentioning.

I am not Catholic and I don't believe in the hocus-pocus of churches, but the Pope will shortly take one action that will be a giant step in convincing the world to work hard at slowing down and ameliorating the present situation. Then all you denial insulters will be in even a much tinier minority than you already are in.

Richard94611

Wrong, Peter. The fact is that almost all glaciers all over the world are melting. Only a very small number are increasing. These facts and photos illustrating them are clearly shown in the course I mentioned. What is going on in front of the house (or not going on) is a local situation that could be due to m,any causes. If you want a counter example, the atolls of the Pacific such as Rakahanga, Manihiki, the Tuamotus, Pukapuka, and Swarrow Atoll, all of which I have visited a number of times, are slowly being inundated by the rising sea level. The people there are packing up and leaving the islands for New Zealand because they know what is happening. And why are the Heads of State of some of these tiny South Pacific islands addressing the UN General Assembly, explaining what is happening to their homelands and begging the UN to take stronger action to stop the sea level rise ?

The fact that global warming is real and happening is not established by what is happening in any one place, such as the house with the boulder at the water's edge. It is established by readings from hundreds and hundreds of places. These readings do have a few anomalies, such as the one you have mentioned. But overall, they show that the sea level is rising (satellite readings show this, too) . Basing one's conclusions on just a single place, whether it be at the house you mentioned or at the shoreline in Manihiki, is called "cherry picking." One sample doesn't show the whole picture. Only the averaging of many, many samples tells us what is happening.

Richard94611

Nickolai, don't expect these folks to believe any data that doesn't support and confirm their mistaken notions. They are invulnerable to facts. But you might be interested in the course at edX.org, which is free and extremely interesting. It uses videos of experts explaining what is happening in their fields, while the text of what they are saying runs along beside the picture. And though I have not quite finished the course, each of the objections you see from people in this forum is almost certainly dealt with.

Richard94611

Wrong, Jack. Study the data instead of just regurgitation BS.

peter11937 Loc: NYS

Well, desperation starts, arguing tobacco and CO2 equal pollution and illness. That is false. CO2 is required for life on Earth as we know it. CO2 in quantities 20 times as high as now did not cause overheating of any negative result. Plants, however, flourished, giving us the vast coal beds we use today. CO2 is removed by photosynthesis. The more CO2, the faster and more healthy are our plants. The Earth's biosphere is much more healthy at 1.200 ppmv than at the current low 380 to 400 ppmv we have now.

Richard94611

Hey, Homestead, this is what is called "The Petition Project" and was found to be fraudulent a long time ago. You're still falling for it, Sucker. You must be the kind of person who believes all doctors know the same things, so when you get appendicitis you go to a cardiologist. The "Darwin Effect" will get you yet !


31,487 American scientists have signed this petition,
including 9,029 with PhDs
http://www.petitionproject.org/

peter11937 Loc: NYS

If you check, you will discover these atolls and others now very deep under water are following a pattern of westward migration along the Pacific plate westward . Eventually they will reach the subduction zone and the Marianas Trench that marks it and will be recycled into the upper mantel. What you see is not anthropogenic. Try the East Coast of N. America for a more vertically stable area. From the 40th parallel north, the East Coast is slowly rising up, the weight of the glaciers removed, the land is "springing" back. Even the Great Lakes are a tiny bit less deep each year. All without any help from us.....

the waker Loc: 11th freest nation

the waker Loc: 11th freest nation

Not so much a conspiracy, but where they're funding is coming from should be examined.
Still doesn't explain Antarctica.
If its global warming, then why is ice in Antarctica growing?
The question I have is how was the sea level accurately measured in the past, in comparison to how it is measured today.
Also, how would CO2 cause the magnetic poles to move?

Homestead

OK, just the facts ma'am, just the facts.
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How the Global Warming Scare Began
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyUDGfCNC-k#t=45

Antarctic ice shelf melt 'lowest EVER recorded, global warming is NOT eroding it'
http://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-40661-5.html#994184

Dr Don Easterbrook Exposes Climate Change Hoax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LkMweOVOOI#t=40

The Great Global Warming Swindle - Full Movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-m09lKtYT4

Al Gore's Inconvenient SCAM, Lies versus Lord Monckton Truth and Logic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElEwhE7B-8o#t=309

5 Scientific Reasons That Global Warming Isn't Happening
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2014/02/18/5-scientific-reasons-that-global-warming-isnt-happening-n1796423/page/full

31,487 American scientists have signed this petition,
including 9,029 with PhDs
http://www.petitionproject.org/