Skyhook

I really agree with and liked this:" The future for our people is pretty G.D. bleak thanks to government over reach and our sheltered stupid people."

Our shared belief that 'all men are created equal' applies only to the intrinsic value of each man and the soul of each man.. we are not idiot enough to think all men are exactly made of the same potentials, gifts, talents, nor will all be equal in ambition. Critical thinking depends largely upon individual thought, not group-think. I doubt the left mob will agree.

asphaltman

Im wondering, are there any Democrats or liberals that dont believe in political correctness?

asphaltman

Just for the record. I dont think u will find the first lib that will go along with any word u say. Altho i think u hit the nail on the head.

Ricktloml

But the concept itself is not new. Unfortunately we are witnessing an unprecedented acceptance of this of this filth.

CDM Loc: Florida

By definition one cannot possibly participate as a Democrat, liberal, socialist or communist without total commitment to the concept, the goal of total suppression of free speech; therefore, the answer to your question is no.

Anyone claiming to be any of the above and at the same time supporting free speech is a more complete coward than the avowed leftist, nothing more.

asphaltman

Thanks CDM, I was thinkn something along that line. :thumbup:

Geezer1948 Loc: Moving soon

I've only been here awhile, and I really hate long posts, but this issue of being politically correct is driving me nuts. Here's my story...Please tell me if you think I am/was off-base.

I’ll tell you my personal story, and journey, with [PC} political correctness. It will take a few minutes to read, but if you ride along, I think you will see how screwed-up we have become.

My career spanned nearly 40 years in Human Resources, Including being VP of HR for 15 of those years. I prided myself in my knowledge of and expertise in Labor and Employment law. As part of my responsibilities at several companies, I conducted Sexual Harassment training for all employees …supervisors and their staff, alike, although I dug a little deeper with the supervisors, do’s and don’ts and what and when to report, etc.) . I made my presentation to literally thousands of employees over that time. I always tried to introduce my presentation with a little levity. Since I did this across 7 or 8 states with many employees I’d never seen or met before, I never really expected a hostile crowd, was typically warmly received and only one time did I encounter problem.

I would open with some general comments about who I was and why I was there, and that, although I planned to inject some humor into the presentation, no one should interpret that as me taking the topic lightly or anything less than deadly serious. I went on to say that as I was packing to catch my flight, my wife said; “What are you going to do, today?” I said, “I’m going to stand up in front of a bunch of people who are mostly strangers…and talk about sex.” And she said: Oh, Honey, you’re good at talking about it.” The typical response to that was widespread applause and laughter…exactly what I had hoped for.

I thought that line was clever, self-deprecating, and didn’t see how anyone could possibly be offended by it. I was wrong…

Having given the same opening to no fewer than 3,000 employees, I finally got one (1) negative feedback, not directly, but via our IT director, who happened to be female, and had exposed me to some of the raunchiest internet humor I had seen, up to that point: lots of “Viagra” humor, the ‘Piano man’ video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP9-nThLbgg WARNING…IT IS NSFW!!!; and a little squeeze doll with a grass skirt who “popped a woody” when you squeezed him. (Haven’t been able to find a link, for that one.)

I am not saying this to say she was a bad person, or morally bankrupt, but upon receiving the complaint, rather that tell me--a peer staff member about it (and the one to whom allegations like this were supposed to be reported)--she went to our boss…the President…and it became a part of my permanent record! He had heard it, and thought it was funny too, by the way.
And had she come to me, she and I both know that I would have immediately reported it to my boss, as well. But because it involved Sexual harassment, however remotely, HE was duty bound to report it to corporate.

My earliest Sexual harassment investigation was in 1976, before they even had a name for it, and I continued to investigate, adjudicate, and frequently dispense discipline over the course of my career, without censure, and often with comments like “I’m glad somebody had enough b@lls to do something about that.” I had employees quit, violent physical threats, and more, but I always tried to tread the straight and narrow, in my opinion.

Oh, and the punch-line is, out of 3,000+ employees, the one and only complainant was…a severely overweight LBGQT employee, (I will not reveal gender or preference) who somehow found my opening comments “offensive.”

That’s my story on “Political Correctness,” and I’m sticking to it.

If I may, I’ll paraphrase old honest Abe as follows:
You can offend all the people, some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but if you offend one of the people, even one time, you are screwed.

dwallace2015

Absolutely correct, succinct, terse, to the point. Political correctness is the antithesis of the very idea of free thought or opinion. Bravo for saying so.

lusitanean

JW: Many, many years ago That commie paper (90% of them are commie, a given) the Newark Star Ledger in Newark N. J. kept harping on the fact that 80% of our prisoners were black and that blacks were only 13% of our population, and they were having a ball proclaiming that that was proof positive of racism. Raw, naked racism, in a country of racists. Fed up with their really criminal rethoric I sent the bastards an e-mail, pointing out to them that since 80% of the crimes were, then as now, commited by blacks, logic would tell even the stupid or treasonous among us, that 80% of our prison population was...logical. However since they kept on insisting that this was wrong, I had a solution to the problem. Which was: every time we put a black criminal in jail we should also throw in there a stupid white "liberal" as the equalizer. Problem solved. But never published as expected.

Geezer1948 Loc: Moving soon

Thank you , D-Wall...It took we a while to crank that all of that out, but I came from my heart, and what I saw and did over my career. If only one or two people can profit from my experience, what I have seen and done, I hope it will help to move us all upward and onward.

asphaltman

[quote=Geezer1948]I've only been here awhile, and I really hate long posts, but this issue of being politically correct is driving me nuts. Here's my story...Please tell me if you think I am/was off-base.

I’ll tell you my personal story, and journey, with [PC} political correctness. It will take a few minutes to read, but if you ride along, I think you will see how screwed-up we have become.

My career spanned nearly 40 years in Human Resources, Including being VP of HR for 15 of those years. I prided myself in my knowledge of and expertise in Labor and Employment law. As part of my responsibilities at several companies, I conducted Sexual Harassment training for all employees …supervisors and their staff, alike, although I dug a little deeper with the supervisors, do’s and don’ts and what and when to report, etc.) . I made my presentation to literally thousands of employees over that time. I always tried to introduce my presentation with a little levity. Since I did this across 7 or 8 states with many employees I’d never seen or met before, I never really expected a hostile crowd, was typically warmly received and only one time did I encounter problem.

I would open with some general comments about who I was and why I was there, and that, although I planned to inject some humor into the presentation, no one should interpret that as me taking the topic lightly or anything less than deadly serious. I went on to say that as I was packing to catch my flight, my wife said; “What are you going to do, today?” I said, “I’m going to stand up in front of a bunch of people who are mostly strangers…and talk about sex.” And she said: Oh, Honey, you’re good at talking about it.” The typical response to that was widespread applause and laughter…exactly what I had hoped for.

I thought that line was clever, self-deprecating, and didn’t see how anyone could possibly be offended by it. I was wrong…

Having given the same opening to no fewer than 3,000 employees, I finally got one (1) negative feedback, not directly, but via our IT director, who happened to be female, and had exposed me to some of the raunchiest internet humor I had seen, up to that point: lots of “Viagra” humor, the ‘Piano man’ video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP9-nThLbgg WARNING…IT IS NSFW!!!; and a little squeeze doll with a grass skirt who “popped a woody” when you squeezed him. (Haven’t been able to find a link, for that one.)

I am not saying this to say she was a bad person, or morally bankrupt, but upon receiving the complaint, rather that tell me--a peer staff member about it (and the one to whom allegations like this were supposed to be reported)--she went to our boss…the President…and it became a part of my permanent record! He had heard it, and thought it was funny too, by the way.
And had she come to me, she and I both know that I would have immediately reported it to my boss, as well. But because it involved Sexual harassment, however remotely, HE was duty bound to report it to corporate.

My earliest Sexual harassment investigation was in 1976, before they even had a name for it, and I continued to investigate, adjudicate, and frequently dispense discipline over the course of my career, without censure, and often with comments like “I’m glad somebody had enough b@lls to do something about that.” I had employees quit, violent physical threats, and more, but I always tried to tread the straight and narrow, in my opinion.

Oh, and the punch-line is, out of 3,000+ employees, the one and only complainant was…a severely overweight LBGQT employee, (I will not reveal gender or preference) who somehow found my opening comments “offensive.”

That’s my story on “Political Correctness,” and I’m sticking to it.

If I may, I’ll paraphrase old honest Abe as follows:
You can offend all the people, some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but if you offend one of the people, even one time, you are screwed.[/quote]

I think that perfectly describes political correctness to a T. Thanks :thumbup: :thumbup:

signoftheages

I completely agree.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

It sure does, unless the person you offend is Christian, then it is cause for celebration and another wedding cake.

no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun

[quote=Geezer1948]I've only been here awhile, and I really hate long posts, but this issue of being politically correct is driving me nuts. Here's my story...Please tell me if you think I am/was off-base.

I’ll tell you my personal story, and journey, with [PC} political correctness. It will take a few minutes to read, but if you ride along, I think you will see how screwed-up we have become.

My career spanned nearly 40 years in Human Resources, Including being VP of HR for 15 of those years. I prided myself in my knowledge of and expertise in Labor and Employment law. As part of my responsibilities at several companies, I conducted Sexual Harassment training for all employees …supervisors and their staff, alike, although I dug a little deeper with the supervisors, do’s and don’ts and what and when to report, etc.) . I made my presentation to literally thousands of employees over that time. I always tried to introduce my presentation with a little levity. Since I did this across 7 or 8 states with many employees I’d never seen or met before, I never really expected a hostile crowd, was typically warmly received and only one time did I encounter problem.

I would open with some general comments about who I was and why I was there, and that, although I planned to inject some humor into the presentation, no one should interpret that as me taking the topic lightly or anything less than deadly serious. I went on to say that as I was packing to catch my flight, my wife said; “What are you going to do, today?” I said, “I’m going to stand up in front of a bunch of people who are mostly strangers…and talk about sex.” And she said: Oh, Honey, you’re good at talking about it.” The typical response to that was widespread applause and laughter…exactly what I had hoped for.

I thought that line was clever, self-deprecating, and didn’t see how anyone could possibly be offended by it. I was wrong…

Having given the same opening to no fewer than 3,000 employees, I finally got one (1) negative feedback, not directly, but via our IT director, who happened to be female, and had exposed me to some of the raunchiest internet humor I had seen, up to that point: lots of “Viagra” humor, the ‘Piano man’ video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP9-nThLbgg WARNING…IT IS NSFW!!!; and a little squeeze doll with a grass skirt who “popped a woody” when you squeezed him. (Haven’t been able to find a link, for that one.)

I am not saying this to say she was a bad person, or morally bankrupt, but upon receiving the complaint, rather that tell me--a peer staff member about it (and the one to whom allegations like this were supposed to be reported)--she went to our boss…the President…and it became a part of my permanent record! He had heard it, and thought it was funny too, by the way.
And had she come to me, she and I both know that I would have immediately reported it to my boss, as well. But because it involved Sexual harassment, however remotely, HE was duty bound to report it to corporate.

My earliest Sexual harassment investigation was in 1976, before they even had a name for it, and I continued to investigate, adjudicate, and frequently dispense discipline over the course of my career, without censure, and often with comments like “I’m glad somebody had enough b@lls to do something about that.” I had employees quit, violent physical threats, and more, but I always tried to tread the straight and narrow, in my opinion.

Oh, and the punch-line is, out of 3,000+ employees, the one and only complainant was…a severely overweight LBGQT employee, (I will not reveal gender or preference) who somehow found my opening comments “offensive.”

That’s my story on “Political Correctness,” and I’m sticking to it.

If I may, I’ll paraphrase old honest Abe as follows:
You can offend all the people, some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but if you offend one of the people, even one time, you are screwed.[/quote]


Your story is not surprising. I am not usually politically correct, but attempt to be civil. sometimes that is hard. one of the posters here, named Rod riddle, who claimed to be a transgender member of NAMBLA finally caused me to loose it in his discussion og how the boys at NAMBLA meetings really enjoyed the sex they had with adult men. We finally got rid of the bastard, although I am not sure he is not back under another name.