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Oct 8, 2013 18:12:44   #
faithistheword
 
Schuler wrote:
HUH--I just gotta respond to this recurring misconception. The New World Order is not a 'good guy'. Unions are part of the solution-not the problem. The New World Order is-or will be the BAD guys in the struggle for freedom and equality and most important-financial prosperity for the working world. None of these folks believes in freedom, equality or secure lives for the people--they are not liberal or progressive--which means they are not even remotely FAIR. The people who are the-or will be the NWO are George Bush Sr. and family and all the other oil rich folks, it is the Rothschilds and their incredibly powerful worldwide (yup-even ours is under their thumb) banking organization, what's left of Morgan's family and organization, the investment bankers and the Mars and Coors and Koch and Rockefeller families, companies like Hanes and Reynolds Tobacco (champions of Eugenics)and all the other very-very rich people. They are successfully corrupting American thought (yup- even in the public schools and universities) to believe that 'sharing the wealth' is 'undesirable'-to put it simply! They, the very-very rich, powerful and just plain mean, conservative tyrants, also have their 'hired minions'-the Republican Party and to a lesser extent the Tea Party (only because of numbers) to do their tyrannical plotting and planning through and using our government. I would suggest that America is not as 'exceptional' as some would believe-'exceptional' for whom?. The willingness for too many of the working middle class to embrace(and ignorantly accept) right wing, fascist predatory capitalism as having 'working class' best interests in mind defies explanation. Their cleverly propagandized drivel is working --on too many! Ahhhh- 'Telly' ya said it so well-'who loves ya baby?'--'Socialism' is not the enemy-- time to learn the truth!--and it shall set you free!
HUH--I just gotta respond to this recurring miscon... (show quote)




With all your big talk, one would think you're a thinker, but I find your opinions very disturbing. Do you not know the concept of unions? Do you not know it's the ultimate control mechanism? Do you not know the concept was birthed in Stalinist Russia? Do you not know that most of Obama's cabinet and dept. heads are unionists? Do you believe THIS--what we are living through--is what our Founding Fathers had in mind when they gave so much to build this country--after studying the mistakes of Europe? We were set up to be different, to have learned from the mistakes of History. We need to stand up to this tyrant and his minions, and reset our country.

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Oct 8, 2013 18:18:58   #
ashbrocha
 
faithistheword wrote:
With all your big talk, one would think you're a thinker, but I find your opinions very disturbing. Do you not know the concept of unions? Do you not know it's the ultimate control mechanism? Do you not know the concept was birthed in Stalinist Russia? Do you not know that most of Obama's cabinet and dept. heads are unionists? Do you believe THIS--what we are living through--is what our Founding Fathers had in mind when they gave so much to build this country--after studying the mistakes of Europe? We were set up to be different, to have learned from the mistakes of History. We need to stand up to this tyrant and his minions, and reset our country.
With all your big talk, one would think you're a t... (show quote)


I have to agree: This is definitely NOT what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they built this country.

First of all, why are women voting? That was definitely not part of the plan.

Second of all, why are all these black people voting? And owning property? And being paid for their labor? That was NOT part of the plan.

Third, have we suddenly started honoring commitments to native Americans? What's up with that? We definitely did not intend to do that.

Fourth, have we engaged in entangling alliances with foreign nations? We weren't supposed to do that.

Fifth, when did the age of exploration and colonization end?

Sixth, what's up with all of these -- what do you call them? -- cars and trucks? MAN you can get around town faster than you could in the old days.

Seventh, why are you all you lunatics watching these "televisions" and playing "videogames" and typing on "the internet."

That is NOT AT ALL what the Founding Fathers had in mind.

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Oct 8, 2013 18:35:08   #
faithistheword
 
ashbrocha wrote:
I have to agree: This is definitely NOT what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they built this country.

First of all, why are women voting? That was definitely not part of the plan.

Second of all, why are all these black people voting? And owning property? And being paid for their labor? That was NOT part of the plan.

Third, have we suddenly started honoring commitments to native Americans? What's up with that? We definitely did not intend to do that.

Fourth, have we engaged in entangling alliances with foreign nations? We weren't supposed to do that.

Fifth, when did the age of exploration and colonization end?

Sixth, what's up with all of these -- what do you call them? -- cars and trucks? MAN you can get around town faster than you could in the old days.

Seventh, why are you all you lunatics watching these "televisions" and playing "videogames" and typing on "the internet."

That is NOT AT ALL what the Founding Fathers had in mind.
I have to agree: This is definitely NOT what the F... (show quote)




I'm getting REAL tired of those standard liberal replies! Have we not fixed most of those things? Have we not been on the forefront of change for the good? America is my country, and our constitution is the wisest document in the world. We don't need more liberalism, we need people to use their God-given talent and brains!

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Oct 8, 2013 18:47:36   #
faithistheword
 
Blue Flu wrote:
Rockefeller answered "everything we need is already in place, all we need now is one good crisis".
If it's a global monetary crises that will bring about one world government it appears it'll occur before Obama leaves office. The Fed is monetizing the debt to the tune of 85 billion dollars per month.
Since the military has to be prepared for every scenario including mass civil unrest at home, the posts about FEMA creating detention camps and the purchase of hollow point bullets by the DHS doesn't seem so far fetched to me anymore.
If the above is true it's little wonder the NSA is spying on the citizenry. Is the Government preparing a list of those to incarcerate first?
Rockefeller answered "everything we need is a... (show quote)




I don't think it will be as much incarceration as elimination! That's the most final solution, and the idiots who voted for it will be expendable at that point, too.

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Oct 8, 2013 18:53:01   #
TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
 
ashbrocha wrote:
I have to agree: This is definitely NOT what the Founding Fathers had in mind when they built this country.

First of all, why are women voting? That was definitely not part of the plan.

Second of all, why are all these black people voting? And owning property? And being paid for their labor? That was NOT part of the plan.

Third, have we suddenly started honoring commitments to native Americans? What's up with that? We definitely did not intend to do that.

Fourth, have we engaged in entangling alliances with foreign nations? We weren't supposed to do that.

Fifth, when did the age of exploration and colonization end?

Sixth, what's up with all of these -- what do you call them? -- cars and trucks? MAN you can get around town faster than you could in the old days.

Seventh, why are you all you lunatics watching these "televisions" and playing "videogames" and typing on "the internet."

That is NOT AT ALL what the Founding Fathers had in mind.
I have to agree: This is definitely NOT what the F... (show quote)

Yeah, Ashbrocha, way to jump in there with both feet. You are right on many points.
Originally only property owners & freemen were given the vote. Representatives to congress were elected by these men. The senators for each state were selected by that states legislature (as the senators represent the state's interest).
The battle for State's Rights vs. Federal Gov't has brewed since the authoring of the constitution.
President Coolidge is a good read on this subject.
The Federal Gov't has superseded States rights in a host of different areas as the constitution has been amended. For every well intention there is an unintended consequence.

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Oct 8, 2013 18:54:41   #
Homestead
 
TroubleshooterTim wrote:
Actually, Homes, I'm expecting the Dollar to crash, devalued so that who ever is holding the bag looses.

As far as the ammunition shortage, there are a number of different factors involved there. The DHS buying 1.4 billion rounds of .40 hollow point (a bullet that is outlawed in combat, by the way) is a contributor. Chinese buying Peru's copper and the loss of brass/copper due to recycling (thieves) at is being sold open market rather than to ammo manufacturers, who have to pay a premium for brass/copper now.

I think the Chinese are afraid of the arm citizen too much to try to take possession. As they should be.
Actually, Homes, I'm expecting the Dollar to crash... (show quote)



Yes they are.
The rumour is that, that is why Obama needs to get rid of America's guns. The Chinese do not want to wind up in the middle of a civil war, once America finds out what Obama is up to.

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Oct 8, 2013 19:24:55   #
TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
 
Participating in this thread my subject you to indefinite detention

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Oct 8, 2013 22:18:34   #
TroubleshooterTim Loc: People's Republic of Oregon
 
Hehehehe, I make a statement like that in bold and everybody stops posting.

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Oct 8, 2013 23:08:18   #
Homestead
 
TroubleshooterTim wrote:
Hehehehe, I make a statement like that in bold and everybody stops posting.


What exactly would you expect them to say???????

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Oct 9, 2013 08:25:27   #
ashbrocha
 
Homestead wrote:
Yes they are.
The rumour is that, that is why Obama needs to get rid of America's guns. The Chinese do not want to wind up in the middle of a civil war, once America finds out what Obama is up to.


Really? Obama is trying to get rid of America's guns?

Seriously?

Either Obama IS trying to get rid of our guns, and is the most incompetent President of all time - and you therefore have nothing to worry about - or he is NOT actually trying to get rid of our guns.

Either way, boy oh boy. You.

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Oct 9, 2013 08:30:01   #
ashbrocha
 
TroubleshooterTim wrote:
Yeah, Ashbrocha, way to jump in there with both feet. You are right on many points.
Originally only property owners & freemen were given the vote. Representatives to congress were elected by these men. The senators for each state were selected by that states legislature (as the senators represent the state's interest).
The battle for State's Rights vs. Federal Gov't has brewed since the authoring of the constitution.
President Coolidge is a good read on this subject.
The Federal Gov't has superseded States rights in a host of different areas as the constitution has been amended. For every well intention there is an unintended consequence.
Yeah, Ashbrocha, way to jump in there with both fe... (show quote)


I completely agree with you. The unintended consequence of two centuries of creeping usurpation of states rights by the Federal government ended up being the development of the greatest middle class since the Renaissance, social mobility unknown in the rest of the world, the invention of the industrialized world, the greatest period of technological advancement in the history of the world, the irradication of previously lethal diseases, and the establishment of the United States of America as the greatest world superpower since the Roman Empire.

Of course, we have to pay income taxes now, and sometimes people clamor for things like the right to vote and health insurance, so I am quite sure it wasn't worth it.

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Oct 9, 2013 09:35:03   #
Mom8052 Loc: Lost in the mountains of New Mexico
 
ashbrocha wrote:
On pages 5 and 6, it is getting VERY difficult to tell the trolls who are trying to be funny from the true believers who mean what they say.

Trolls, please knock it off so that the real people will have a chance to air their thoughts.


As one of the TROLLS.....I am a true believer.
1) I do believe I have a right to say what I believe is true.
2) I do not believe that you have opened your mind to what others are trying to say.
3) I do believe that you are very narrow minded.

(FACT)The US Government is not allowing any more mining claims on over 300,000 acres in the Western United States.
(FACT) The US Governments DOD is longer selling spent brass to Ammo Manufacturers here in the US(which has been what has been done for years), but shredding it and selling it to China.

This Troll is tired of the negativeness of people like you.
This Troll is tired of your snide remarks, that reflects your negative attitude. Open your mind, and try to understand the meaning of our statements.

Don't try to walk over my bridge, if you don't have an open mine.

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Oct 9, 2013 10:13:09   #
antipropaganda
 
Mom8052 wrote:
As one of the TROLLS.....I am a true believer.
1) I do believe I have a right to say what I believe is true.
2) I do not believe that you have opened your mind to what others are trying to say.
3) I do believe that you are very narrow minded.

(FACT)The US Government is not allowing any more mining claims on over 300,000 acres in the Western United States.
(FACT) The US Governments DOD is longer selling spent brass to Ammo Manufacturers here in the US(which has been what has been done for years), but shredding it and selling it to China.

This Troll is tired of the negativeness of people like you.
This Troll is tired of your snide remarks, that reflects your negative attitude. Open your mind, and try to understand the meaning of our statements.

Don't try to walk over my bridge, if you don't have an open mine.
As one of the TROLLS.....I am a true believer. br... (show quote)


I think he is referring to those of us that put long posts on, but I agree with you. I was hoping to find people on here that want to take an active role in solving the issues our government has created in our country. Instead I find that most on this forum are addicted to drama and love pointing fingers instead of doing something about it. Others post sites with great information, but still have no suggestions as how to resolve the issues we are facing. Bottom line is; If anything needs to get done, it has to be WE THE PEOPLE to do it.

One suggestion here for the ammo shortage; for those of us that are for the 2nd amendment should sell or trade our scrap brass and copper to the ammo manufacturers. Trade our scrap for ammo seems to be one logical solution.

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Oct 9, 2013 10:31:33   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
nightstalker wrote:
Here's a link you might find interesting.

http://endgamenow.com/tag/trilateral-commission/


You brought up a key point.

A single government for the world in & of it's self is not a bad idea. But just who will set up the rules. If it will still be a world run by the same ideals in place now, a world divided between rich & poor. How will really be a better world.

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Oct 9, 2013 10:34:32   #
Floyd Brown Loc: Milwaukee WI
 
antipropaganda wrote:
I think he is referring to those of us that put long posts on, but I agree with you. I was hoping to find people on here that want to take an active role in solving the issues our government has created in our country. Instead I find that most on this forum are addicted to drama and love pointing fingers instead of doing something about it. Others post sites with great information, but still have no suggestions as how to resolve the issues we are facing. Bottom line is; If anything needs to get done, it has to be WE THE PEOPLE to do it.

One suggestion here for the ammo shortage; for those of us that are for the 2nd amendment should sell or trade our scrap brass and copper to the ammo manufacturers. Trade our scrap for ammo seems to be one logical solution.
I think he is referring to those of us that put lo... (show quote)


I have to say that you put it out there right. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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