VladimirPee

POCO

Is English your primary language amigo? Where did you see the word TAX in my post?

If Drug companies are paying the cost then why is 650 BILLION being added to our budget for OC over the next 6 years? Why is coverage costs going UP for those who are not SUBSIDIZED by OC which is the Majority of Americans?

Poco624

Hey, amigo! Because there will be no $650 billion added to the deficit over the next 6 years, it will be $127 billion lower than it would be without a healthcare bill over the next 10 years. And another $650 billion reduction over the next decade, yes, according to the CBO your deficit will be a reduction. You really need to get your information from someone who doesn't want to see this fail.

CBO: Senate ObamaCare Bill Would Reduce Deficit By $127 Billion
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/18/cbo-senate-obamacare-bill-would-reduce-deficit-by-127-billion-over-10-years/

Do you know that most of the people who file bankruptcy do so because of illness? Medical care in this country is extremely expensive and I just do not understand why the Republicans want to deny people this benefit.

If you are so outraged about having to pay taxes, why aren't you angry about what the Republicans doing? President Obama has made numerous appearances on the news, etc. saying that what the Republicans are doing now is adding to the deficit, and they want to repeal OC to reduce the deficit. Can you explain that to me?

The shenanigans the Republicans pulled in 2011 added $2.1 billion to the deficit, and now they are adding $1.2 billion every week the government is shutdown. I really wish your party would get their priorities in order.

And another thing, never before in our history has a Republican president been concerned about a deficit, Dick Cheney said deficits didn't matter, so did Grover Norquist. Even Paul Ryan, under Bush, ran up $6.8 trillion just on the bills he voted for and now he is all concerned about the deficit.

Right now the Republicans are holding our economy hostage over a "constitutional law", a "settled law". You do not shutdown the government over a law. It has never been done before and it is detrimental to the world economy, not just America's economy.

VladimirPee

My mistake Its $710 Billion

The Estimated Budgetary Impact of the ACA’s Coverage Provisions Has Changed Little on a Year-by-Year Basis Since March 2010

When estimates are compared on a year-by-year basis, CBO and JCT’s estimate of the net budgetary impact of the ACA’s insurance coverage provisions has changed little since February 2013 and, indeed, has changed little since the legislation was being considered in March 2010. In March 2010, CBO and JCT projected that the provisions of the ACA related to health insurance coverage would cost the federal government $759 billion during fiscal years 2014 through 2019 (which was the last year in the 10-year budget window being used at that time). The newest projections indicate that those provisions will cost $710 billion over that same period.

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44176


Obama has added more debt than any President in history. Yes Bush spent like a drunken sailor. Obama spends like a drunken NAVY

Did you even bother to open the Hotair link you provided? That was 2009 long before the final ACA bill passed.

maureenthannon

Obamacare takes awasy healthcare from those who need it most. To pay for obamacare, medicare is being slashed by 87%. edicare is health insurance for seniors and the disabled, those who need the most health care. Obama seeks to be in control of everything and everyone, and he doesn't care who gets hurt in the process.

Navysnipe Loc: Old West

Have any of them read the 2300 page law, and the 20,000 or so amendments to the bill in its entirety? Has anyone read all of that? Maybe that's the problem.

VladimirPee

Most doctors just don't know

But those doctors, by a wide margin, also said they are "not at all familiar" with how a number of important aspects of those exchanges and plans offered on them will work—aspects that will directly affect their bottom lines. More than 65 percent of them gave that answer to all but one of the questions asking their familiarity with plan benefits levels, contracted rates with insurers, patient coverage terms and the claims process.


http://www.nbcnews.com/health/even-doctors-are-clueless-obamacare-poll-finds-6C10699406

Poco624

When experts write programs for insurance policies, license bureaus, car dealerships, etc. they project into the future using tables. Tables contain information such as dates, cost of items, anything you need to keep track of. Tables are used because you can update them without changing the programming syntax.

The experts who wrote OC were able to project into the future about the cost at the time the program was being written. That is why the information I gave you in "CBO: Senate ObamaCare Bill Would Reduce Deficit By $127 Billion" is still accurate. They were able to predict the rise of cost, how it will affect the deficit, and all other information by using tables.

I have written a couple of big computer programs and I do a little about writing them. From what I read in http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44176 not much has changed from the one that was written in 2009. Whether you like it or not Obamacare will be our biggest deficit reducer, it may raise the deficit in the beginning, but it will reduce it in the end.

Fact Check: Repealing ObamaCare Adds To The Deficit
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/25/fact-check-repealing-obamacare-adds-to-deficit/

Will ObamaCare Add To The Deficit?
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Tax-VOX/2012/0411/Will-Obamacare-add-to-the-deficit

UncleJesse Loc: Hazzard Co, GA

Excellent points based in fact not rhetoric.

snowbear37 Loc: MA.

:thumbup: :thumbup:

maureenthannon

ACA tskes health care away from the sickest people, to finance the ACA, Medicare is being cut 87%. Medicare is health insurance for those on Social Security, seniors and the disabled. hese are the people with the most disease and the highest healthcare costs. Obamacare takes healthcare away from the sickest and gives it to people who vote for Democrats. Obama and the left count on people not knowing what's going on. For years they knew they could count on people not knowing what they do because they've long had the teachers unions and the t.v. networks to brainwash the kids and lie to the adults on the news. But the internet was a problem because most people can get information online, which is why Obama is trying to censor what is on the internet.

VladimirPee

Adding to the deficit or not is irrelevant to the cost. The spending comes from increased taxes so it may not add to the deficit much. Yes you can spend 710 Billion on a program and , by funding it through other means, does not add to the deficit.
Your csmonitor link said this so I guess you didn't read that either.

Bottom line. This is a disaster . Yes some of those lower income folks who would vote for Obama anyway may benefit. Middle Class Americans are getting hammered. I love it. Can't wait for all those Middle Class White females who voted Obama have to cancel their Gym Classes lol

In a new study, Chuck Blahous, who is a public trustee for Medicare and Social Security, concludes that the 2010 health law will add at least $340 billion to the federal deficit from 2012-2021. This is contrary to the official estimates by the Congressional Budget Office, which initially figured the Affordable Care Act would reduce the deficit by about $132 billion from 2012-2019.

VladimirPee

Cindy Vinson and Tom Waschura are big believers in the Affordable Care Act. They vote independent and are proud to say they helped elect and re-elect President Barack Obama.

Yet, like many other Bay Area residents who pay for their own medical insurance, they were floored last week when they opened their bills: Their policies were being replaced with pricier plans that conform to all the requirements of the new health care law.

Vinson, of San Jose, will pay $1,800 more a year for an individual policy, while Waschura, of Portola Valley, will cough up almost $10,000 more for insurance for his family of four.

"Welcome to the club," said Robert Laszewksi, a prominent health care consultant and president of
http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-world/ci_24248486/obamacares-winners-and-losers-bay-area

PoppaGringo Loc: Muslim City, Mexifornia, B.R.

Poco, what are you smoking, dipping, inhaling and/or swallowing? Your brain(?) has been dissolved and turned into something that is indescribable.

betty Loc: Arizona Mountains

Are you kidding?

VladimirPee

Right Wing Blogs? How about Huffington Post? Is that left enough for Molly?

More than half of physicians say they’ll vote for Mitt Romney come November 6th compared to just 36 percent for Obama, according to a recent survey by medical staffing firm Jackson and Cokey. In fact, 15 percent of survey respondents said they’ll be switching to the Republican camp this election, with most citing the Affordable Care Act as the reason.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/02/doctors-obamacare-romney_n_1932743.html