Hi, I'm Tom. I'm a doctor specializing in pain management and physical rehablitation. It's clear to me that doctors are afraid of the ACA because they are worried that it will result in lower reimbursement though there is no secific reason that it would. What is not clear to me is how the Republican contingency explains how the ACA is so detrimental to the economy that it warrants the current arrest of our government. I have yet to hear a logical reasoned and cogent explanation of how providing healthcare to people ruins job creation and damages the economy. Just saying so without building the case with solid facts and coherent logic won't do. Since there is really nothing in the ACA but consumer protection measures and promotion of free market competition and choices in healthcare what is the real reason for the resistance and who other than the private healthplan companies, are the real backers of this resistance and why?
Tomol57 wrote:
Hi, I'm Tom. I'm a doctor specializing in pain management and physical rehablitation. It's clear to me that doctors are afraid of the ACA because they are worried that it will result in lower reimbursement though there is no secific reason that it would. What is not clear to me is how the Republican contingency explains how the ACA is so detrimental to the economy that it warrants the current arrest of our government. I have yet to hear a logical reasoned and cogent explanation of how providing healthcare to people ruins job creation and damages the economy. Just saying so without building the case with solid facts and coherent logic won't do. Since there is really nothing in the ACA but consumer protection measures and promotion of free market competition and choices in healthcare what is the real reason for the resistance and who other than the private healthplan companies, are the real backers of this resistance and why?
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Where have you been Tom? When you don't have money to spend..except on health care insurance, there is none going into the economy..Good Luck in your "Pain Management" practice, looks like you are one of the very few Docotors that like the ACA.
I support a minimum health care to cover those who have none, but Obama care does not address any of the problems with health care, nor does it provide health coverage for all who have none.
From what I have seen of ACA it does not provide affordable health care, especially when you consider the deductibles and the fines for not having coverage.
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Hi, I'm Tom. .... I have yet to hear a logical reasoned and cogent explanation of how providing healthcare to people ruins job creation and damages the economy. Just saying so without building the case with solid facts and coherent logic won't do. Since there is really nothing in the ACA but consumer protection measures and promotion of free market competition and choices in healthcare what is the real reason for the resistance and who other than the private healthplan companies, are the real backers of this resistance and why?
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You won't get anything but opinion. If there were facts then logically, the democrats would listen and amend the bill. Instead, it is all politics and incoherent rhetoric from a few who chose to not spend any money on health insurance because they knew others would pay for it. They are irate to buy something they used to get for free. The barrage of anti-rhetoric is now old drama with an obvious tell it is from those who gamed the system.
I know many doctors who have no problem with the ACA, and I actually work with and know many doctors. So for those of you who heard they don't like it from your biased right wing websites and blogs- you are a great example of whats wrong with the right right now. You complain of high costs and such, but have you actually gone to look at the exchanges in your state? It does promote improvement in health care, it does attempt to get access for those who are uninsured.. that's kind of the main point. We don't know how it will turn out because its just starting to happen. Anything stating it knows the outcome is opinion and therefore worthless and can be fought with more opinion from the other side. But its ALL opinion.
Molly wrote:
I know many doctors who have no problem with the ACA, and I actually work with and know many doctors. So for those of you who heard they don't like it from your biased right wing websites and blogs- you are a great example of whats wrong with the right right now. You complain of high costs and such, but have you actually gone to look at the exchanges in your state? It does promote improvement in health care, it does attempt to get access for those who are uninsured.. that's kind of the main point. We don't know how it will turn out because its just starting to happen. Anything stating it knows the outcome is opinion and therefore worthless and can be fought with more opinion from the other side. But its ALL opinion.
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Just what is your occupation or vocation Molly?
BS RN- I work in a huge hospital that is top ranked and I work in a health system that has pretty much pac man'd up everything around it. By doing this they have elevated the standards of most of the local hospitals. They are safety freaks and evidence based in their practice. I work on a cardiac floor.
Molly wrote:
BS RN- I work in a huge hospital that is top ranked and I work in a health system that has pretty much pac man'd up everything around it. By doing this they have elevated the standards of most of the local hospitals. They are safety freaks and evidence based in their practice. I work on a cardiac floor.
I would assume that many of the doctor's are employee's of the hospital rather than private practitioner's. I say this because my primary doctor is giving up his practice and joining a local hospital. His reasoning is because he can no longer afford his large practice because of ObamaCare's reg's, rule's and smaller reimbursements.
I see a ton of doctors. I have a PCP, neurosurgeon, hematologist/oncologist, neurologist.. none of them are worried. It is well talked about in medical circles.
Molly wrote:
I see a ton of doctors. I have a PCP, neurosurgeon, hematologist/oncologist, neurologist.. none of them are worried. It is well talked about in medical circles.
I am sure it is probably the main topic of all discussions among all doctors and hospital administrators.
Tom
ACA was sold on the basis of lies
1) That we were already paying for these people anyway so it wouldn't cost anymore ( Then why the massive hikes in private insurance and why the 650 Billion in ACA spending in 2014-2019?
2) The average family will save $2500. Obviously untrue if you speak to ANYONE with an employer plan ( 70% ) of America.
You may be a doctor but I hold an MBA
You cannot insure 30 Million uninsured ( 41.7 Million after amnesty) for free. Then add expensive options like pre existing conditions. SOMEONE has to pay more and that someone is the Middle Class
Tomol57 wrote:
Hi, I'm Tom. I'm a doctor specializing in pain management and physical rehablitation. It's clear to me that doctors are afraid of the ACA because they are worried that it will result in lower reimbursement though there is no secific reason that it would. What is not clear to me is how the Republican contingency explains how the ACA is so detrimental to the economy that it warrants the current arrest of our government. I have yet to hear a logical reasoned and cogent explanation of how providing healthcare to people ruins job creation and damages the economy. Just saying so without building the case with solid facts and coherent logic won't do. Since there is really nothing in the ACA but consumer protection measures and promotion of free market competition and choices in healthcare what is the real reason for the resistance and who other than the private healthplan companies, are the real backers of this resistance and why?
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DennisDee wrote:
Tom
ACA was sold on the basis of lies
1) That we were already paying for these people anyway so it wouldn't cost anymore ( Then why the massive hikes in private insurance and why the 650 Billion in ACA spending in 2014-2019?
2) The average family will save $2500. Obviously untrue if you speak to ANYONE with an employer plan ( 70% ) of America.
You may be a doctor but I hold an MBA
You cannot insure 30 Million uninsured ( 41.7 Million after amnesty) for free. Then add expensive options like pre existing conditions. SOMEONE has to pay more and that someone is the Middle Class
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But not everyone signing up has a preexisting condition and many who buy insurance won't need it every year. We keep coming back o how insurance works but if it was such a loser for insurance companies, then why have so many thrown in their plans for the exchanges?
Old_Gringo wrote:
I am sure it is probably the main topic of all discussions among all doctors and hospital administrators.
I wasn't talking hospital doctors.. these are MY doctors. I just happen to have quite a few of them
because of the federal subsidies. They will make a fortune off Uncle Sam.
Molly wrote:
But not everyone signing up has a preexisting condition and many who buy insurance won't need it every year. We keep coming back o how insurance works but if it was such a loser for insurance companies, then why have so many thrown in their plans for the exchanges?
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