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Oct 4, 2013 19:03:27   #
Schuler Loc: Santa Fe NM
 
Wow-I just love this website-ain't had so much fun since the 'hogs et my brother'. And reading the responses is so rewarding. They infuse me with unbridled optimism knowing that the truth is reaching so many of the ignorant and poorly informed. There may be hope yet!

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Oct 4, 2013 19:35:49   #
Geno36 Loc: Texas
 
Brzezinski's response was " America will never accept Socialism until the middle class is standing in the bread lines"!

NEWS FLASH!!!!!
The bread line are already up. They are now called food stamps.

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Oct 5, 2013 00:38:26   #
larry
 
jasfourth401 wrote:
This will cheer you up. You live today in an extraordinary world where your life expectancy is much higher than just 20 years ago. It is due to the impact of the American free enterprise system. You live in a place where everyone's opinion counts, and where everyone is allowed to voice that opinion freely.

Technology is to be challenged. You make it work. Not the other way around. You adapt and thrive because of it. Yes, you are watching a fundamental shift in our economy and what workers accomplish. This will continue...and speed up as our world moves ever faster.

But your great advantage sits right in front of you...and your family. It is the gift from your heritage. It has instilled thrift, hard work and independence. Nobody can take that from you.

My best recent example is a nephew. He snuck out of my sister's house last May for a few hours. Grabbed a job flipping chicken for beach goers. Pocketed 3 grand in three months. Age 14.

That's America. Endless possibilities. Revel in it.
This will cheer you up. You live today in an extr... (show quote)

You have made my day. Not only do we have to be watchful of who is controlling this merry-go-round, but we have to locate the brass rings on our own. Never let the dumbness of government shatter your ambition. Never give up.

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Oct 5, 2013 00:53:14   #
larry
 
hprinze wrote:
The cure is simple to prescribe.

Forcing the patient to accept the treatment is difficult.

Forcing the doctor to write the prescription is very difficult.

The prescription:
1. Stop meddling in the internal affairs of foreign countries.

2. Stop giving American taxpayers' money to foreign countries,

3. Abolish all the unnecessary and/or unconstitutional government bureaus.

4. Cut off ALL welfare, food stamps, WIC, ADC, housing subsidies, Obamacare subsidies, and all other forms of handouts to any able bodied adult who refuses ANY offer of employment or who is fired for misconduct or mal feasance on the job.

4. Start teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic instead of propaganda and free lunches in the government schools.

5.Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US.

6. Limit all politicians to one term, pay a reasonab;e salary during that term and NOTHING afterward.


I must admit that those things are pipe dreams, the politicians will never allow them to happen.
The cure is simple to prescribe. br br Forcing t... (show quote)

Now we have the recipe, how do we mix the dough to accomplish this loaf of wisdom. Every time a citizen group wants to implement a SMART change in the way things are run, they are overpowered by maggots and the meat is destroyed before it stops bleeding, while it is still bleeding. There is an uncontrolled Liberal/leftist group that overwhelms the truth and efforts of common sense with their daily propaganda. They can't help it, they have been brainwashed by the Government run education system. They dictate the curriculum and content of every introductory session of every course. Students are forced to take this burning dressing or flunk out. It is no wonder we are plagued with this condition. How do we stifle the propaganda??? And get the truth???

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Oct 5, 2013 00:58:29   #
ABBAsFernando Loc: Ohio
 
It is called the Brotherhood of Darkness led by CAIN himself. Cain who murdered his own brother to gain his property and cursed by God. This cult loves money above all else. Money translates into power and that translates into EVIL from lovers of money.

This Brotherhood of Darkness created the Federal Reserve System and the IRS then communism, Fascism, Socialism, and through SOVIET DISINFORMATION the extreme Hatred of America and Israel among the Muslims. This Darkness funds communists and Muslim Terrorists worldwide. This Darkness controls the World Banks and many corporations. This Darkness is attrempting to take control over America itself.

This Brotherhood of Darkness will be the cause of so much destruction that the entire world will be in mortal danger of being completely destroyed. At about this time in history Jesus Christ will step in to stop them.

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Oct 5, 2013 01:56:20   #
larry
 
ABBAsFernando wrote:
It is called the Brotherhood of Darkness led by CAIN himself. Cain who murdered his own brother to gain his property and cursed by God. This cult loves money above all else. Money translates into power and that translates into EVIL from lovers of money.

This Brotherhood of Darkness created the Federal Reserve System and the IRS then communism, Fascism, Socialism, and through SOVIET DISINFORMATION the extreme Hatred of America and Israel among the Muslims. This Darkness funds communists and Muslim Terrorists worldwide. This Darkness controls the World Banks and many corporations. This Darkness is attrempting to take control over America itself.

This Brotherhood of Darkness will be the cause of so much destruction that the entire world will be in mortal danger of being completely destroyed. At about this time in history Jesus Christ will step in to stop them.
i It is called the Brotherhood of Darkness led by... (show quote)


Fine, but since we don't know the time of that event, we must continue to suffer the slings and arrows of unprincipled ding-bats. Let us construct a Brotherhood of Light, and overwhelm them with the truth. Darkness must flee the light. The more light we have, the more we can see the truth.

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Oct 5, 2013 10:26:30   #
scottyb
 
larry wrote:
Fine, but since we don't know the time of that event, we must continue to suffer the slings and arrows of unprincipled ding-bats. Let us construct a Brotherhood of Light, and overwhelm them with the truth. Darkness must flee the light. The more light we have, the more we can see the truth.

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Oct 6, 2013 20:57:27   #
nightstalker
 
BigMike wrote:
Are you replying to me? If you use the "quote reply" tab when you answer a post we'll all know who you are speaking to :thumbup:


Yea I think so. Some of the other sites I've been on automatically link the reply to the post in question. Going to have to pay better attention to this.
Thanks for the heads up.

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Oct 6, 2013 22:20:41   #
nightstalker
 
jasfourth401 wrote:
I'll respectively disagree. You are pointing out global governmental agencies that serve only as puppets. The people pulling the strings have, and will always be, those with the money. This has been true ever since the founding of this country and the purchasing of Hessians for use in the Revolutionary War. Our current situation mimics the gilded age with robber barons having it all and the remaining populace with very little. And when the populace gets angry, they go looking for heads to chop. Just ask any Frenchman what February 22, 1787 means. It was the beginning of the end when the First Assembly of Notables met. The only difference today is that instead of unique country by country problems, we are now a global economy run by global conglomerates. The owners (the rich), simply adjust by moving themselves (and their businesses) to wherever the most favorable government exists. The problem today in this country is that we have an unfair tax code that favors the wealthy with preferred tax treatment while everyone else toils away in a slowly bleeding spiral downward. And until this is corrected, all of those items listed in the beginning of your discourse will continue to fester...until it goes boom. And if history is any guide, there will indeed be a very big boom.
I'll respectively disagree. You are pointing out ... (show quote)


What exactly do you disagree with. Your reply is consistent with what I posted. My discussion begins with our current state of affairs. You added a correct analysis of an earlier period.

We can actually trace this global conspiracy back to the house of Rothchild in the 1600's along with the Warburgs. These banking entities discovered that their best investments were the financing of wars. They secretly backed both sides of a conflict that they managed to create, usually covertly. It was a no-lose proposition, because governments never had enough money to fight their own wars. Enter the "benevolent" bankers who charged exorbitant rates of interest, and no matter who won, the debt was always past on to the surviving public and eventually paid by taxation.
Out of this magical money making scheme, future wealthy investors began to consolidate their interests around a debt base economy, with taxpayers always footing the bill.

The big lie is that socialism is the opposite of capitalism.

When socialist policies become public debt, (that vastly enriches the investors), at the expense of taxpayers, you find that socialism is only another tool for the acquisition of great wealth.

Socialism was the creation of the global elite. For by claiming to "help the disadvantaged" at the expense of the middle class (and it has always been the middle class who pays), thru public debt, their investments are guaranteed. Can you say "full faith and credit".

Not only that, but by proclaiming to "help the disadvantaged" it is ensured that a larger and larger voting block will be created to support more public debt as more citizens begin to fall into a debt ridden situation.

The end result is what we face today. $17 trillion (of middle class workers moneys) will go into the pockets of the lenders. We may call them institutional investors, but there are always individual names that the checks are issued to.

The whole deal is a grand con-game.

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Oct 6, 2013 22:34:22   #
nightstalker
 
Homestead wrote:
You used a lot of space to say nothing.
Try it again, but, this time focus, and put the Coolaid down.
Your going to hurt yourself.


Schuler; read my last post. I'm sure we may have good debate brewing.

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Oct 6, 2013 22:39:54   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
I find your post exceptionally interesting. But, there is no Power to be had in the world from a Govt gone defunct. Not unless it is being headed for a take over by another Govt.
nightstalker wrote:
Looking at all the post titles on this forum, I see what could best be described as attempts to treat the symptoms and ignore the disease. So lets describe the symptoms and maybe we can diagnose the disease.
1. A nation divided.
2. Unsustainable National debt.
3. Massive decline of the middle class.
4. Unacceptable unemployment and under employment.
5. Decline of purchasing power of the dollar. (true rate of inflation).
6. No accountability within gov.
7. Secrecy instead of transparency.
8. Failing education system.
9. Abandonment of personal responsibility.
10. Decline of acceptable moral values.
11. Massive rise of the dependency state.
12. Disregard for, and growing disdain for the constitution and it's intent.

Certainly there are many more items that could be listed, but you get the point.

At this point I would suggest that all the above problems have not occurred by accident nor by ignorance, but in reality have been deliberately planned and implemented by special interests, who wield enormous global financial and political power. The term New World Order will suit for the time being.
For those who will scream conspiracy theorist, I would suggest that you consult history as far back as the ancient Egyptian, Roman, Greek and Babylon empires and you will find that in governments, conspiracies have been the norm, and not the exception. So is the nature of mankind. Once power is acquired, it is never relinquished voluntarily.
Our founding fathers recognized this flaw of human nature and produced a document that "could" prevent it, provided we remained vigilant and educated as to the consequences of ignoring or tampering with it.

So who are today's tyrants and what is their MO.
Start with the formation of the CFR and Trilateral Commission. Throw in the Bilderbergs , World Bank, IMF, WTO, and the Fed and you have the operators. A very interesting list of past and present members of the CFR and Trilateral Commission who are or were at high levels of every administration is eye opening.
Their MO is right out of the communist manifesto. But how could that be. Start with the education (re-education) of our kids in progressive dominated colleges and universities. Preach liberation theology. Teach working hard and accumulation of money is evil. . Promise more than you know you can deliver, and instill a since of victimization and you have a voting block. Use race, sex, gender ID, and class warfare and walla there is divide and conquer. Explode the size of government and social dependency and walla again, you got insurmountable debt. etc,etc..These are what Marx called the useful idiots, who once the objective is met are totally expendable.

So here comes the sacred cow. Globalization. Global trade unions like NAFTA, CAFTA, EU, APEC, African union etc, were the direct brain child of the Trilateral and CFR bunch.
The minutes of the 1991 Trilateral Commission began with the speaker, who was the CEO of the largest bank in Japan. He addressed the members with this quote. " Gentlemen, what you must understand is that these global trade unions have little if anything to do with trade, and everything to do with restructuring the global politic". He went on to say that the plan was to establish these regional unions; that the treaties were designed to be irreversible and irrevocable. Note that ()treaties dilute the sovereignty of all signatories. Once the global trade unions were established it would only be a matter of time until they would be merged under the umbrella of a global governance.

After the meeting, a reporter interviewed David Rockefeller and asked; " Mr Rockefeller, your organization has advocated a One World Government since it's inception; What do you have to do to make it happen?" Rockefeller answered "everything we need is already in place, all we need now is one good crisis".
The reported then turned to Brzezinski and asked "what you advocate is a global socialist order; what makes you think America will ever accept Socialism"? Brzezinski's response was " America will never accept Socialism until the middle class is standing in the bread lines"!

The events that have unfolded in this nation since, seem to me to parallel those remarks. What say you?
Enough for now. Fire away :roll:
Looking at all the post titles on this forum, I se... (show quote)

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Oct 6, 2013 22:55:37   #
nightstalker
 
I also voted for Ross. Too many liberals point to Bush and say "see what conservatives are all about". Bush was never a conservative.
They tried to coin him a neo-con, but his mission was the same as Obama. Furtherance of the NWO..

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Oct 6, 2013 23:04:35   #
Homestead
 
nightstalker wrote:
What exactly do you disagree with. Your reply is consistent with what I posted. My discussion begins with our current state of affairs. You added a correct analysis of an earlier period.

We can actually trace this global conspiracy back to the house of Rothchild in the 1600's along with the Warburgs. These banking entities discovered that their best investments were the financing of wars. They secretly backed both sides of a conflict that they managed to create, usually covertly. It was a no-lose proposition, because governments never had enough money to fight their own wars. Enter the "benevolent" bankers who charged exorbitant rates of interest, and no matter who won, the debt was always past on to the surviving public and eventually paid by taxation.
Out of this magical money making scheme, future wealthy investors began to consolidate their interests around a debt base economy, with taxpayers always footing the bill.

The big lie is that socialism is the opposite of capitalism.

When socialist policies become public debt, (that vastly enriches the investors), at the expense of taxpayers, you find that socialism is only another tool for the acquisition of great wealth.

Socialism was the creation of the global elite. For by claiming to "help the disadvantaged" at the expense of the middle class (and it has always been the middle class who pays), thru public debt, their investments are guaranteed. Can you say "full faith and credit".

Not only that, but by proclaiming to "help the disadvantaged" it is ensured that a larger and larger voting block will be created to support more public debt as more citizens begin to fall into a debt ridden situation.

The end result is what we face today. $17 trillion (of middle class workers moneys) will go into the pockets of the lenders. We may call them institutional investors, but there are always individual names that the checks are issued to.

The whole deal is a grand con-game.
What exactly do you disagree with. Your reply is c... (show quote)


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Oct 6, 2013 23:34:09   #
rhomin57 Loc: Far Northern CA.
 
Should there be a New World Order as these posts state: Whose Government, or Ideals will be the Head?
vernon wrote:
that is scarey and the new world order is a phrase that i first heardfrom bush 1.and as far as im concerned that was why i voted for ross p

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Oct 7, 2013 09:29:36   #
Homestead
 
rhomin57 wrote:
Should there be a New World Order as these posts state: Whose Government, or Ideals will be the Head?


It doesn't matter.
Under a new world order, the government owns everything. The land and everything on it. That includes you and anything your life's work produces. That's why they can tell you what to eat, what to drink, how much you can weigh and how much health care your entitled to, at different stages of your life.

Our job will be the serve those who are in charge and if there are more people than needed to do that, then those extra people are expendable, and will be eliminated.

They might be nice and do it through birth control, but, if not, bullets aren’t that expensive, they've already bought 2.6 billion of them already.

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