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Apr 3, 2015 19:55:42   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
Antisocialist wrote:
Wow, are you completely out of touch with reality.

Gullible warming is a scam; always was and always will be. The scam was initiated by Al Gore, Maurice Strong, Goldman Sachs, and a few others. Gore & Strong would have netted roughly $100 million USD a year each had the scam been successfully implemented, with Goldman Sachs netting a few $Billion$ a year. Here’s a good article that spells out this out. It is a long read but well worth the effort. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-20100405

Maurice Strong is still trying to run the scam but now through his Agenda 21 program at the UN. Maurice was also the driving force behind the creation of the IPCC and the totally flawed reports they delivered on ‘man made’ global warming. Maurice Strong and O’shithead are acquaintances by the way from the days when O’skidmark was on a committee that helped fund Al Gore’s rip-off business to fleece American taxpayers.

And the ‘97% of scientists’ scam you bought into; that number is constantly used by brain dead Libtards without knowing what the ‘97%’ refers to. In the survey that came from, there were only 77 scientists with 75 of them agreeing with a very specific part of the questionnaire. In other words, they twisted the facts until they got what they wanted; the ‘97%’ part. It is totally bogus. Here’s a link to an article that spells out what you Leftards bought into. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/cherry-picking-one-survey-to-discredit-a-survey-of-scientists-on-climate-change/2013/05/07/e69607d2-b77b-11e2-92f3-f291801936b8_blog.html

I do have one question that I’m hoping you can clarify; you did not mention which planet you are referring to with your ‘gullible warming’ crap. I have to ask because the same temperature increases (and decline) are occurring simultaneously on other planets in our solar system. Please be more specific about which planet you are referring to. Maybe I can assume it is Earth considering we only have 3 vehicles (I think) on Mars, but it would help if you could be more specific.

But wait!! There’s more!! You and the rest of the Libtards do not have a clue about the future energy needs of our planet. This BS about Jack and some magical green thingy that will eliminate carbon based fuels any time in the near future is just that, bullshit. Here is a report published by the International Energy Agency that gives a great outline on the energy needs of our planet for the foreseeable future. It is a 190 page report but if you read even the first few pages you will realize that anyone who thinks we can eliminate carbon based fuels in our lifetime, is a full-fledged retard. http://www.iea.org/publications/freepublications/publication/WEIO2014.pdf
Wow, are you completely out of touch with reality.... (show quote)


I'm not a liberal nice try though

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Apr 3, 2015 19:57:00   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
Anonymous wrote:
Was in the middle of editing my reply above please re read it.


I know what you meant. Tell Dave.

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Apr 3, 2015 20:06:42   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
J Anthony wrote:
I know what you meant. Tell Dave.


Lol that was ment for Dave I accidentally sent you that one

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Apr 4, 2015 06:21:45   #
Antisocialist Loc: Florida
 
J Anthony wrote:
Weather aside, do you not acknowledge that modern life is not having an altogether positive effect on our land, air and water, not to mention our minds and bodies?


I seriously doubt you could find one Republican, conservative, or ___________ (insert your own derogatory term) that advocates trashing our planet or resources. IMHO the biggest difference between Conservatives and Libtards lies with how realistic their approach is to protecting the planet.

Libtards seem to believe there is some type of magic switch the world can throw and eliminate all forms of carbon based energy. If you read the 3rd page of that IEA report, you may have noticed the $48 trillion in investment required to meet the worlds energy needs over the next 20 years, $53 trillion if alternative, more efficient sources are considered. Regardless of which number you consider, roughly $2.5 trillion a year needs to be invested in order to extract enough energy to meet our needs.

So while O’skidmark has thrown roughly $150 billion to subsidize alternative energy sources over a few years, that amount is still a pittance when you consider our overall energy needs. The Anonymous Libtard started this post talking about ‘greedy businesses’ and ‘science’ yet fails to understand why these so called greedy businesses aren’t pursuing profits in alternative energy sources. Surely if they are greedy and the profits are there, they would sink their $2.5 trillion a year into these alternative sources of energy. The answer is simple; alternative energy sources are in their infancy and if you remove the subsidies, there is no profit and the world’s energy requirements are too great to invest in too much outside of proven sources of energy.

Businesses are pursuing alternative energy sources and are using science to advance their efforts, but it could take 50 to 100 years to eliminate all carbon based energy sources. That may be an ugly fact, but it is still a fact and this is where I see a disconnect between the approach of Libtards and Conservatives on how to eliminate carbon based energy.

I have seen several cases where the EPA Jackboots mandated coal fired generating plants install scrubbers on their plants in order to meet Clean Air regulations (that were written by someone now in prison) only to have the EPA move the goal posts after the plants spent a few hundred $million$ on the scrubbers. So after spending all that money (actually consumers’ money) these plants may be forced to shut down anyway. This is the primary reason I feel the EPA needs to be shut down entirely. If they are unable to strike a balance between preserving our environment and imposing unreasonable economic measures on consumers, shut them down completely.

There is no magic switch and until Libtards recognize the fact they need to strike a balance between protecting the planet while at the same time protecting humans, our economy, and anything else that may be adversely affected by your fantasies, you will meet resistance from conservatives.

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Apr 4, 2015 07:33:19   #
Antisocialist Loc: Florida
 
Anonymous wrote:
No I didn't nice try though lol. A Walton is sitting on 50 billion federal reserve notes and a Rothschild a couple billion this amount of money won't change anything. If I stuck 50% of a "nations wealth" and "money rendered useless" to close to each other I apologize this is poorly worded and I did not mean 100 trillion dollars is sitting in a bank account somewhere. And I'd like to clarify when I say 50% of nations wealth I do not mean it's sitting in their personal bank accounts.
No I didn't nice try though lol. A Walton is sitti... (show quote)


You should learn a little about the history of Sam Walton and how he became one of the worlds richest men and one of the worlds largest employers.

The man started his career as a retail sales employee and when he tried to convince his managers of alternative cost savings measures, they completely dismissed his theories. So the man took out a 2nd mortgage on his home, borrowed from friends and family and bought his own store, pictured below. One man with a dream and business savvy created one the greatest financial empires the world has ever seen. Sam Walton lived what used to be the American Dream yet is now despised by Libtards because he was successful.



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Apr 4, 2015 07:57:16   #
grumpymarine Loc: Florida
 
Study the history of the earth. Cycles of warming and cooling long before man drove automobiles. Wealth envy spells you are a liberal.

Lewis Larson, DMD

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Apr 4, 2015 08:06:44   #
Antisocialist Loc: Florida
 
Anonymous wrote:
I'm not a liberal nice try though


You are a Libtard and your comments clearly reflect that.

Here is some additional info and photos depicting the horrible ‘greed’ of wealthy Americans.

Bill Gates, founder of Microsoft and one of the world’s richest men, obviously stole all of his wealth. Pictured below is a photo of Microsoft’s first office

Then there was Steve Jobs, another American who became incredibly wealthy by stealing money from Americans. Pictured below is the garage where Steve began his criminal career.

The bottom picture is Disneyland. Yep, that is a photo of Walt Disney’s garage ….. where it all began.

So what is the difference between all these people who started out with nothing and became incredibly successful and a Libtard? While Libtards were pissing and moaning about wealth inequality, these people availed themselves of the opportunities America presented to them and became successful.

Keep pissing and moaning; it doesn’t seem to be helping you but you’ve never allowed facts to get in the way of your stupidity so why start now.

Microsoft
Microsoft...

Apple Computers garage
Apple Computers garage...

Disneyland
Disneyland...

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Apr 4, 2015 08:16:25   #
J Anthony Loc: Connecticut
 
@AntiSocialists: unlike yourself, I'm not here to apply derogatory terms to those I disagree with. I will say that your idea that if only we could get the "libtards" and government out of the way that we'd be sailing to a free-market Utopia, is as delusional and fantastical as the ideas of those you disparage. Regardless of how long it may take, governments, businesses and citizens need to get a little more passionate about planting the seeds for a sustainable future. It is not for a lack of resources or funding that we are being held back, it is for lack of will.

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Apr 4, 2015 08:21:11   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Anonymous I didn't bother to read your post because anyone who writes an article without using any paragraphs means it's more than likely nothing but hogwash !

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Apr 4, 2015 08:26:50   #
Antisocialist Loc: Florida
 
J Anthony wrote:
@AntiSocialists: unlike yourself, I'm not here to apply derogatory terms to those I disagree with. I will say that your idea that if only we could get the "libtards" and government out of the way that we'd be sailing to a free-market Utopia, is as delusional and fantastical as the ideas of those you disparage. Regardless of how long it may take, governments, businesses and citizens need to get a little more passionate about planting the seeds for a sustainable future. It is not for a lack of resources or funding that we are being held back, it is for lack of will.
@AntiSocialists: unlike yourself, I'm not here to ... (show quote)


I agree there is a ‘lack of will’ but I’m certain we would disagree on the root cause.

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Apr 4, 2015 10:33:46   #
Dummy Boy Loc: Michigan
 
4430 wrote:
Anonymous I didn't bother to read your post because anyone who writes an article without using any paragraphs means it's more than likely nothing but hogwash !


Where are your paragraphs? I guess it's equal hogwash.

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Apr 4, 2015 10:59:12   #
Dave Loc: Upstate New York
 
Anonymous wrote:
No I didn't nice try though lol. A Walton is sitting on 50 billion federal reserve notes and a Rothschild a couple billion this amount of money won't change anything. If I stuck 50% of a "nations wealth" and "money rendered useless" to close to each other I apologize this is poorly worded and I did not mean 100 trillion dollars is sitting in a bank account somewhere. And I'd like to clarify when I say 50% of nations wealth I do not mean it's sitting in their personal bank accounts.
No I didn't nice try though lol. A Walton is sitti... (show quote)


I have no idea what you are saying so it is difficult to respond. Let me try to put one piece of, perhaps, relevant info into your thought process - if someone has invested in federal bonds, the federal government has used that money to spend on some aspect of government operation. Money is simply a means of exchange and a storehouse of value. If one "stores" that value in some institution - government bond or bank - the money is used for some means of exchange by that entity.

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Apr 4, 2015 11:18:54   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Dummy Boy wrote:
Where are your paragraphs? I guess it's equal hogwash.


:roll: :roll:

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Apr 4, 2015 17:51:03   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
Antisocialist wrote:
I seriously doubt you could find one Republican, conservative, or ___________ (insert your own derogatory term) that advocates trashing our planet or resources. IMHO the biggest difference between Conservatives and Libtards lies with how realistic their approach is to protecting the planet.

Libtards seem to believe there is some type of magic switch the world can throw and eliminate all forms of carbon based energy. If you read the 3rd page of that IEA report, you may have noticed the $48 trillion in investment required to meet the worlds energy needs over the next 20 years, $53 trillion if alternative, more efficient sources are considered. Regardless of which number you consider, roughly $2.5 trillion a year needs to be invested in order to extract enough energy to meet our needs.

So while O’skidmark has thrown roughly $150 billion to subsidize alternative energy sources over a few years, that amount is still a pittance when you consider our overall energy needs. The Anonymous Libtard started this post talking about ‘greedy businesses’ and ‘science’ yet fails to understand why these so called greedy businesses aren’t pursuing profits in alternative energy sources. Surely if they are greedy and the profits are there, they would sink their $2.5 trillion a year into these alternative sources of energy. The answer is simple; alternative energy sources are in their infancy and if you remove the subsidies, there is no profit and the world’s energy requirements are too great to invest in too much outside of proven sources of energy.

Businesses are pursuing alternative energy sources and are using science to advance their efforts, but it could take 50 to 100 years to eliminate all carbon based energy sources. That may be an ugly fact, but it is still a fact and this is where I see a disconnect between the approach of Libtards and Conservatives on how to eliminate carbon based energy.

I have seen several cases where the EPA Jackboots mandated coal fired generating plants install scrubbers on their plants in order to meet Clean Air regulations (that were written by someone now in prison) only to have the EPA move the goal posts after the plants spent a few hundred $million$ on the scrubbers. So after spending all that money (actually consumers’ money) these plants may be forced to shut down anyway. This is the primary reason I feel the EPA needs to be shut down entirely. If they are unable to strike a balance between preserving our environment and imposing unreasonable economic measures on consumers, shut them down completely.

There is no magic switch and until Libtards recognize the fact they need to strike a balance between protecting the planet while at the same time protecting humans, our economy, and anything else that may be adversely affected by your fantasies, you will meet resistance from conservatives.
I seriously doubt you could find one Republican, c... (show quote)


I didn't read all of what you wrote but for the first couple paragraphs- one it doesn't matter if republicans approve or disapprove of missing up our planet, our panels still getting messed up. And you're talking about how it's would cost to much to use clean energy, did you not read my column? That was the whole point of what I wrote, a way to get around the cost. And although this could be seen as stealing, someday we may not have a choice in the matter when Florida is underwater. And I'm saying if global warming does exist and starts beating us up bad. You know what worse for the economy than an unaffordable energy plan, having all our coasts flooded. When the worlds ending nobody is going to give a shit about "liberatards" or "conservative" we'll need a solution or we can just except there's going to be a lot more people suffering. I'm talking about an apocalypse like scenario, and whether or not this scenario is a flam or is inevitable will become obvious in the next ten - twenty years. And don't act like al gore and Goldman Sachs making money off of the global warming scare proves anything, since when have business men and politicians done anything with out money in mind. On top of that you find me the sceintist that says global warming doesn't exist and I'll show you how oil companies either paid him or that he is viewed as a joke in the science community.

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Apr 4, 2015 17:53:37   #
Anonymous Loc: Hamtucket jersey city
 
Dave wrote:
I have no idea what you are saying so it is difficult to respond. Let me try to put one piece of, perhaps, relevant info into your thought process - if someone has invested in federal bonds, the federal government has used that money to spend on some aspect of government operation. Money is simply a means of exchange and a storehouse of value. If one "stores" that value in some institution - government bond or bank - the money is used for some means of exchange by that entity.


I wrote my column in like ten minutes. It's poorly formatted I apolgize for that, just ignore the rest of this topic.

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