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Mar 23, 2015 16:12:11   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Jerry A. wrote:
JACK: Universal Medical Care with cost control for everybody regardless the income like "MEDICARE" suppose to be a human right. we have Fire Dept., Police Dept. etc. the majority of Hospitals in U.S. are Non-For-Profit and pay no taxes and suppose to take care better of poor people. Members of our U.S. Congress Republicans & Democrats received torrent of $$$$$ money from the Medical community to keep the lousy Medical Care we have after the U.S. Congress passed the law to create H.M.Os and President Nixon signed into law. In the 2010, ruling in Citizens United V. FEC the 5 Republican Justices of our U.S. Supreme Court transformed the First Amendment of our U.S. Constitution into a powerful tool for Corporations seeking to evade and invalidate democratically-enacted reforms by unleashed a torrent of Corporate and special interest $$$$$ money in our political process unmatched by any campaign expenditure totals in U.S. history and members of U.S. Congress benefit and provide now the best laws money can buy only.
JACK: Universal Medical Care with cost control for... (show quote)



We already have medicare for the poor and low income before medicare, so that doesn't fly or reason for Obamacare. One of the great lies for the uninformed.

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Mar 23, 2015 21:11:35   #
Jerry A. Loc: California
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Jerry, there is not enough gold to keep up with expansion. I agree the fiat currency is the worst thing possible. No different than if we had a money printing press, every time the check book gets low, print some more money.
What would you suggest our government do, if not gold alone?
I think the first biggest crime was giving control to the fed reserve (a private company, of the wealthiest families) how much farther from the mark could we be.


The biggest crime after removing the U.S. Dollar from the GOLD standard in 1969, to spent more money without guarantee increasing the Federal deficit was to passed "NAFTA" in our U.S. Congress in 1995, and allowed major U.S. Corporations to moved to 3er. world countries with tax benefits creating the high unemployment we have here, and destroying organized labor with good salaries and benefits.

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Mar 23, 2015 21:35:26   #
Jerry A. Loc: California
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
The GOP does want reforms, one of the many and biggest problems is not the GOP, it is lobbying of both GOP and Dems. I think the landscape would look completely different, had lobbying been outlawed decades ago.


In 2010, the 5 Republicans Justices majority of our U.S. Supreme Court overturned longstanding precedent prohibiting corporations from spending their general treasury funds in our elections. In the ruling in Citizens United V. FEC corporations and the special interest lobbyist can spent now a torrent of $$$$$ money in our political process to evade and invalidate democratically-enacted reforms a serious and direct threat to our Democracy.

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Mar 23, 2015 21:54:16   #
Jerry A. Loc: California
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
We already have medicare for the poor and low income before medicare, so that doesn't fly or reason for Obamacare. One of the great lies for the uninformed.


Medicare passed in 1935, to protect american workers in general after 65 years old , Medicaid is for the american poor and low income only.

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Mar 23, 2015 23:09:33   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
SACRAMENTO, CA - NorCal Tea Party is proud to host the 7th annual Tax Day Rally in Sacramento California on April 15, 2015, at 12:00 p.m.

"Come out to the Capitol to hear keynote addresses from Mark Meckler, President of Citizens for Self-Governance and co-founder of the Convention of States Project, and Reverend Jesse Lee Petersen, Founder of the 1st Black Tea Party and President of BOND in Action.

Immediately following the rally, Convention of States supporters will descend on the Capitol building to distribute information to their representatives about how to a Convention of States can enact the federal tax reform this country so desperately needs. Taxes are higher than ever, but our country remains in astronomical debt. Something needs to change, and Californians want to tell their state representatives how they can be a part of the solution.

Article V provides a way for the states to call a Convention for the purpose of proposing constitutional amendments. These amendments could significantly limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government and force Congress to be fiscally responsible with taxpayers' hard-earned money.

When: Wednesday, April 15th 12:00pm - 2:00pm

Where: West Steps of the California State Capitol (10th and L Street)"

More on Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson founder of the First Black Tea Party:
http://www.wnd.com/author/jlpeterson/

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Mar 24, 2015 02:00:19   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Jerry A. wrote:
Medicare passed in 1935, to protect american workers in general after 65 years old , Medicaid is for the american poor and low income only.


Right, I meant to say medicaid. Opps

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Mar 24, 2015 13:57:24   #
Nickolai
 
Jerry A. wrote:
Medicare passed in 1935, to protect american workers in general after 65 years old , Medicaid is for the american poor and low income only.








Medicare passed in the 1960's. It was .social Security that passed in 1935

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Mar 24, 2015 23:03:22   #
Jerry A. Loc: California
 
Nickolai wrote:
Medicare passed in the 1960's. It was .social Security that passed in 1935


Nickolai: I am sorry I made a mistake Social Security passed in 1935, under F.D.R. and Medicare passed in 1965, under L.B.J.

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Mar 25, 2015 19:43:13   #
son of witless
 
Jerry A. wrote:
Nickolai: I am sorry I made a mistake Social Security passed in 1935, under F.D.R. and Medicare passed in 1965, under L.B.J.


So when did getting your facts right become important?

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Mar 26, 2015 01:35:23   #
Richard94611
 
You are wrong, Jack. Check this out.


Sorry GOP, Obamacare Keeps Getting Better- It Saved Hospitals BILLIONS Last Year
AUTHOR: FRANK MINERO MARCH 25, 2015 2:03 AM


Ever since the Affordable Care Act (ACA) became law, Republicans have been crying, screaming and stomping their feet like unruly toddlers. Their temper tantrum has resulted in more than 50 anti-Obamacare votes in the House since 2011.

They don’t seem to care that repealing Obamacare would add $210 billion to the federal deficit, leave 16.4 million without insurance and deprive us of the ACA’s many other benefits, rights and protections. They hate Obama and his healthcare act more than they love America or Americans.



Fortunately, the good news keeps rolling in and it’s becoming harder and harder for Republicans to make their case against Obamacare. As reported by The Hill, Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell just revealed the latest ACA success story. On Monday, Burwell announced that, Obamacare saved hospitals a whopping $7.4 billion dollars last year!

The savings came from a drop in emergency room visits and expansion of insurance programs like Medicaid. In addition, more insured patients means fewer unpaid bills. Uncompensated care dropped by one-fifth nationwide.

The majority of savings came from the 28 compassionate states and Washington, D.C. that expanded Medicaid healthcare coverage for the poor. If every state had expanded Medicaid, hospitals would have saved an additional $1.4 billion dollars.

Burwell is in negotiation with six governors to expand Medicaid in their states. Sixteen states are stomping their feet, refusing to even consider expansion. These governors are doing their constituents a great disservice. Not only are they denying care, but care that comes at no expense. The federal government has agreed to cover all costs of expanding Medicaid until 2017.

Obamacare has one more major hurdle to leap. A lawsuit questioning state established exchanges will be heard by the United States Supreme Court in June. Oral arguments for King V. Burwell were heard on March 4th.

Help us get the word out!



jack sequim wa wrote:
We already have medicare for the poor and low income before medicare, so that doesn't fly or reason for Obamacare. One of the great lies for the uninformed.

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Mar 26, 2015 01:36:32   #
Richard94611
 
You are wrong, Jack. Check this out.


Sorry GOP, Obamacare Keeps Getting Better- It Saved Hospitals BILLIONS Last Year
AUTHOR: FRANK MINERO MARCH 25, 2015 2:03 AM

Ever since the Affordable Care Act (ACA) became law, Republicans have been crying, screaming and stomping their feet like unruly toddlers. Their temper tantrum has resulted in more than 50 anti-Obamacare votes in the House since 2011.

They don’t seem to care that repealing Obamacare would add $210 billion to the federal deficit, leave 16.4 million without insurance and deprive us of the ACA’s many other benefits, rights and protections. They hate Obama and his healthcare act more than they love America or Americans.

Fortunately, the good news keeps rolling in and it’s becoming harder and harder for Republicans to make their case against Obamacare. As reported by The Hill, Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell just revealed the latest ACA success story. On Monday, Burwell announced that, Obamacare saved hospitals a whopping $7.4 billion dollars last year!

The savings came from a drop in emergency room visits and expansion of insurance programs like Medicaid. In addition, more insured patients means fewer unpaid bills. Uncompensated care dropped by one-fifth nationwide.

The majority of savings came from the 28 compassionate states and Washington, D.C. that expanded Medicaid healthcare coverage for the poor. If every state had expanded Medicaid, hospitals would have saved an additional $1.4 billion dollars.

Burwell is in negotiation with six governors to expand Medicaid in their states. Sixteen states are stomping their feet, refusing to even consider expansion. These governors are doing their constituents a great disservice. Not only are they denying care, but care that comes at no expense. The federal government has agreed to cover all costs of expanding Medicaid until 2017.

Obamacare has one more major hurdle to leap. A lawsuit questioning state established exchanges will be heard by the United States Supreme Court in June. Oral arguments for King V. Burwell were heard on March 4th.

Help us get the word out!



jack sequim wa wrote:
We already have medicare for the poor and low income before medicare, so that doesn't fly or reason for Obamacare. One of the great lies for the uninformed.

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Mar 26, 2015 01:52:06   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Rural Hospitals in Critical Condition due to Obamacare

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Mar 26, 2015 02:21:01   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Richard94611 wrote:
You are wrong, Jack. Check this out.


Sorry GOP, Obamacare Keeps Getting Better- It Saved Hospitals BILLIONS Last Year
AUTHOR: FRANK MINERO MARCH 25, 2015 2:03 AM


Ever since the Affordable Care Act (ACA) became law, Republicans have been crying, screaming and stomping their feet like unruly toddlers. Their temper tantrum has resulted in more than 50 anti-Obamacare votes in the House since 2011.

They don’t seem to care that repealing Obamacare would add $210 billion to the federal deficit, leave 16.4 million without insurance and deprive us of the ACA’s many other benefits, rights and protections. They hate Obama and his healthcare act more than they love America or Americans.



Fortunately, the good news keeps rolling in and it’s becoming harder and harder for Republicans to make their case against Obamacare. As reported by The Hill, Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell just revealed the latest ACA success story. On Monday, Burwell announced that, Obamacare saved hospitals a whopping $7.4 billion dollars last year!

The savings came from a drop in emergency room visits and expansion of insurance programs like Medicaid. In addition, more insured patients means fewer unpaid bills. Uncompensated care dropped by one-fifth nationwide.

The majority of savings came from the 28 compassionate states and Washington, D.C. that expanded Medicaid healthcare coverage for the poor. If every state had expanded Medicaid, hospitals would have saved an additional $1.4 billion dollars.

Burwell is in negotiation with six governors to expand Medicaid in their states. Sixteen states are stomping their feet, refusing to even consider expansion. These governors are doing their constituents a great disservice. Not only are they denying care, but care that comes at no expense. The federal government has agreed to cover all costs of expanding Medicaid until 2017.

Obamacare has one more major hurdle to leap. A lawsuit questioning state established exchanges will be heard by the United States Supreme Court in June. Oral arguments for King V. Burwell were heard on March 4th.

Help us get the word out!
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Get off your Marxist propaganda machine, step into reality! !!
ObamaCare has delivered another sucker punch to the middle class. This time it’s sticker shock.

Now that most people can get past the tech problems of HealthCare.gov and actually see the real cost of insurance plans available, they are finding that Affordable Care is a big hit to the family budget. And when the family budget gets hit in the solar plexus, guess what happens to consumer spending and the economy?

In California, policies for about 900,000 Californians are being canceled because of ObamaCare’s mandates, and about two-thirds of these do not qualify for subsidies, according to The Chicago Tribune. The result: These folks will be paying higher premiums.

In Alabama, premiums have doubled for some middle-class families, like that of Courtney Long, a stay-at-home mother of four. She told WHNT News, “It’s devastating. I started crying

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Mar 26, 2015 02:23:58   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Richard94611 wrote:
You are wrong, Jack. Check this out.


Sorry GOP, Obamacare Keeps Getting Better- It Saved Hospitals BILLIONS Last Year
AUTHOR: FRANK MINERO MARCH 25, 2015 2:03 AM

Ever since the Affordable Care Act (ACA) became law, Republicans have been crying, screaming and stomping their feet like unruly toddlers. Their temper tantrum has resulted in more than 50 anti-Obamacare votes in the House since 2011.

They don’t seem to care that repealing Obamacare would add $210 billion to the federal deficit, leave 16.4 million without insurance and deprive us of the ACA’s many other benefits, rights and protections. They hate Obama and his healthcare act more than they love America or Americans.

Fortunately, the good news keeps rolling in and it’s becoming harder and harder for Republicans to make their case against Obamacare. As reported by The Hill, Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Sylvia Mathews Burwell just revealed the latest ACA success story. On Monday, Burwell announced that, Obamacare saved hospitals a whopping $7.4 billion dollars last year!

The savings came from a drop in emergency room visits and expansion of insurance programs like Medicaid. In addition, more insured patients means fewer unpaid bills. Uncompensated care dropped by one-fifth nationwide.

The majority of savings came from the 28 compassionate states and Washington, D.C. that expanded Medicaid healthcare coverage for the poor. If every state had expanded Medicaid, hospitals would have saved an additional $1.4 billion dollars.

Burwell is in negotiation with six governors to expand Medicaid in their states. Sixteen states are stomping their feet, refusing to even consider expansion. These governors are doing their constituents a great disservice. Not only are they denying care, but care that comes at no expense. The federal government has agreed to cover all costs of expanding Medicaid until 2017.

Obamacare has one more major hurdle to leap. A lawsuit questioning state established exchanges will be heard by the United States Supreme Court in June. Oral arguments for King V. Burwell were heard on March 4th.

Help us get the word out!
You are wrong, Jack. Check this out. br br br ... (show quote)




You are aware communist in your party are dominating policy.
YOU SAID SAVINGS

May 30, 2014

The Hidden Cost Chickens in Obamacare Coming Home to Roost

By Brian C Joondeph

Labor unions have been reliable supporters of President Obama and his policies. Their support for Obamacare was critical to its passage in 2010. Yet they are continuing to learn that their members will be paying more for their healthcare, not less.

One of the selling points of Obamacare was the lowering of health insurance costs. Nancy Pelosi promised, “Everybody will have lower rates.” President Obama was more specific, telling us that his signature program would “Bring down premiums by $2,500 for the typical family.” A year later, however, Mrs. Pelosi, in the face of rising premiums for many, forgot her promise of the previous year, "I don't remember saying that everybody in the country would have a lower premium."

Mrs. Pelosi’s sudden bout of amnesia isn’t surprising. Health insurance premiums rose up to 56 percent under Obamacare and some of her constituents in California are paying over $2600 per month in premiums. But that isn’t the worst of it.

Premiums are just the opening salvo for consumers paying for health care. Paying the premium means you have insurance, but that doesn’t mean you can leave your wallet home when visiting the doctor or hospital.

It’s the hidden costs that will thin your wallet. Copays, deductibles, and coinsurance to be specific. Insurance behemoth Cigna reassures us that these added costs, “All work together to help reduce your medical expenses and protect your finances.” Really?

The copayment is a fixed amount, typically between $20-40, that you pay each time you access the healthcare system – physician visit, x-ray, laboratory, or hospital.

Coinsurance can take a bigger bite out of your wallet. It’s not a fixed cost, but instead a percentage of your bill. Once you meet your deductible (the third hidden cost), you may still have to pay anywhere from 10 to 30 percent of your medical bill based on your policy coinsurance percentage.

The largest hit on your wallet, however, is the deductible. It’s this amount that you pay in full before insurance pays anything. Family deductibles range from $6000 to $10,000 for the most popular silver and bronze Obamacare plans. Until meeting the deductible, you might as well be uninsured, paying cash for your medical care.

It’s not just the Obamacare exchange plans with high deductibles. In 2013, 17 percent of employers are providing high deductible plans as the only option for employees. This is a 31 percent increase from the previous year, and a trend that will likely continue.

United Healthcare believes a high deductible plan is, “A more economical way to help protect your health.” Economical for whom? It certainly is for United but how about for the family suddenly on the hook for ten grand after a family member needs surgery or a few days in the hospital?

Some policies have an out-of-pocket maximum, limiting the cash hemorrhage. But read the fine print. The maximum may not include prescription drug costs or may only include prescription drugs. Copays may still be in effect even above and beyond the out-of-pocket maximum.

Here’s a novel idea to take the bite out of the high deductible. Let individuals or families prepay their deductible with a prepayment discount. Let’s say I have a $6000 deductible for my family insurance plan. Let me pay $5000 on January 1 and for the year my deductible is met. I save $1000 by accepting the gamble that my healthcare costs will exceed my deductible amount for the year. If my costs are lower, I lose the bet. But the insurance company gets cash up front, and unless I get sick on January 2, will have the use of that money until I spend up to my deductible.

Most states offer prepaid college tuition plans under the same concept. Pay in advance to secure a lower tuition bill, but with the risk of losing the prepayment if your kid ends up not going to college or going out of state.

The bottom line is that the insurance hidden costs, while euphemistically described as cost sharing, serve only as a subtle way to ration care. Faced with a high deductible, many will forgo seeking medical care hoping their problem goes away. If it doesn’t, then the only option is a trip to the emergency room, where by law, care must be provided for any "emergency medical condition." And what a surprise, emergency room visits are increasing since Obamacare took effect.

Just as increasing income tax rates drives taxpayers toward loopholes, placing excessive cost burdens on the patient will incentivize poor decisions which ultimately increase costs for everyone.

Dr. Joondeph is a retina surgeon at Colorado Retin



Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_hidden_cost_chickens_in_obamacare_coming_home_to_roost.html#ixzz3VTDSddAt 
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Mar 26, 2015 06:35:10   #
Richard94611
 
I guess this is one of the market corrections you Republicans spend so much time advocating when you are favoring big business.



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