1Corinthians 5:9-13:

"I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people--

"not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.

"But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

"What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?

"God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."

Thank you for sharing such a personal story, as well as your thoughts. It seems to me that you are living a life very much aligned with Christ's teachings, and are open to finding good where others cannot. Bravo.

I've been on OPP for some time now and have been out from the get-go. As I expect honesty from everyone else here, I couldn't in all good conscious have it any other way. Yes, some are not civil to me, but that's their right in a forum where free speech is important. I have a thick skin, and besides, their nastiness seems to say more about them than about me.

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Thank you for responding. Although I'm not gay, I believe I can understand where you're coming from in terms of love and sin. I may not be in total agreement, but I respect your right to your beliefs. Regarding the Bible, I believe it to be the "inspired Word of God, written by men."

I sincerely hope that by "outing" yourself on the OPP, that you don't become the target of hate-talk. Of course, as you know, the anonymity of the Internet gives many an avenue to be hateful toward another and not take responsibility for their actions, without the fear of physical reprisal. I can say that without a doubt, most of the hate-mangers on this site would not say much of anything if their real names, addresses and phone numbers were known to the targets of their venom.

Before my wife and I left the PCUSA, we were very close to a couple that attended with us. They were married about 15 years and had recently traveled to China to adopt a little boy that had "medical issues" had had been abandoned by his mother. Since the baby had a medical issue, the Chinese government was in a hurry to get him adopted and out of the country.

About 2 years after the adoption, the husband told his wife that he'd been trying for nearly his entire life to suppress his knowledge that he wasn't attracted to women, but to men. That revelation floored most everyone, family and friends, alike. He confessed he'd been sneaking around with men for several years. What blew his cover was that he contracted VD of the mouth and was compelled to come out or kill himself. He just couldn't hide his true feelings and emotions anymore after that. They divorced, but they still remain very close friends. He is active in the life of his son. He met another man and they live together, in a monogamous relationship.

The ex-wife has turned her total attention to the caring of the son and holds down a full-time job, choosing not to date. We find that sad because she is a wonderful person and was/could be again a very loving and caring wife. But, we must respect her choices just as we respect the ex-husband's. We still consider ourselves close friends with both the man and woman even though we don't get together near as often as before, mostly to the man's desire to focus his time with his partner and his job. As I said, his ex has devoted her time to their child and her job so we don't get to see her as often, either.

1Corinthians 5:9-13:

"I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people--

"not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.

"But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

"What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?

"God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."

Starting with 2 Timothy 3:1 and special attention to,
2 Timothy 3:5

◄ 2 Timothy 3 ►

King James Bible

Evil in the Last Days

1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

Your views are not of the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, by professing your acceptance you deny the true God. Repent

1Corinthians 5:9-13:

"I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people--

"not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.

"But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

"What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?

"God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."

1Corinthians 5:9-13:

"I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people--

"not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world.

"But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.

"What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?

"God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you."

RETW wrote:
http://politicaloutcast.com/2015/03/why-it-is-a-big-deal-that-presbyterians-redefined-marriage/

Where in any bible does it say gay marriage is OK?

RETW

Nowhere.

You are right, nowhere in the Bible does it say gay marriage is O.K. My Bible makes no mention of gay marriage at all. However, my Bible does say that slavery is O.K., stoning women to death for adultery, killing disobedient children, and stoning homosexuals to death are approved practices. We find what we want to find and disregard or rationalize the rest. What would we believe if we taught critical thinking skills in our schools instead of creationism?