Haughty Lib Loc: Boston, NYC, D.C.

Where in the bible does it say that Republicans are OK?

BOHICA

Thanks for proving, once again, that you are a blithering idiot.

AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State

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alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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:thumbup: it gets that way awfully quick around here, doesn't it.....

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

I can see how you might surmise from my statement that I feel can speak for God. That was not my intent.

My stance is that NO ONE can speak for God, regardless of what texts they quote.

Wat I do believe though, is that we each have a relationship with something divine, however one defines that. And that, as with all relationships, understanding evolves. My own life experience has taught me that homosexuality (and acting on it) are not in and of themselves sinful.

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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That is a very interesting statement. Please expound on how you came to that conclusion. I'm not looking to condemn. Just looking to understand your conclusion.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

I suppose I could write for days on this topic, but I'll try to distill it down.

I'm gay, and my positive experiences being such have given me a deep understanding of the joy of love unfettered by cultural restraints. I know that I was created this way and to NOT celebrate it and live honestly would be an insult to my creator.

But even if I weren't gay, I've seen such love and selfless caring in the gay community over the years that I can't imagine how I could find it sinful.

Of course I'm different than most on OPP because I do not take the Bible as the uninterpreted word of God for all time and all places.

For me, hate is always sinful, and love never can be.

RETW Loc: Washington

Love of sin is wrong. Don't think for one second love cant be sinful. What you love matters. You just don't want to aknoladge it .




Love of sin is wrong. Don't think for one second love can’t be sinful. What you love matters. You just don't want to acknowledge it .

The gay life stile sets itself above the teachings of God.

There is no rebellion involved on this subject, nor is there a misunderstanding.

This life stile and its act by you and yours, is telling us all, and showing God, he does not matter.

Don’t presume to care and love God on one hand, and then go against him on the other. You don’t speak for God, so stop telling us you do.



If your position is as strong as you claim. Tell us all what you will say to God when he asks you, why you did not listen to his teachings? I can't cant wait to hear this answer.

RETW

alabuck Loc: Tennessee

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Thank you for responding. Although I'm not gay, I believe I can understand where you're coming from in terms of love and sin. I may not be in total agreement, but I respect your right to your beliefs. Regarding the Bible, I believe it to be the "inspired Word of God, written by men."

I sincerely hope that by "outing" yourself on the OPP, that you don't become the target of hate-talk. Of course, as you know, the anonymity of the Internet gives many an avenue to be hateful toward another and not take responsibility for their actions, without the fear of physical reprisal. I can say that without a doubt, most of the hate-mangers on this site would not say much of anything if their real names, addresses and phone numbers were known to the targets of their venom.

Before my wife and I left the PCUSA, we were very close to a couple that attended with us. They were married about 15 years and had recently traveled to China to adopt a little boy that had "medical issues" had had been abandoned by his mother. Since the baby had a medical issue, the Chinese government was in a hurry to get him adopted and out of the country.

About 2 years after the adoption, the husband told his wife that he'd been trying for nearly his entire life to suppress his knowledge that he wasn't attracted to women, but to men. That revelation floored most everyone, family and friends, alike. He confessed he'd been sneaking around with men for several years. What blew his cover was that he contracted VD of the mouth and was compelled to come out or kill himself. He just couldn't hide his true feelings and emotions anymore after that. They divorced, but they still remain very close friends. He is active in the life of his son. He met another man and they live together, in a monogamous relationship.

The ex-wife has turned her total attention to the caring of the son and holds down a full-time job, choosing not to date. We find that sad because she is a wonderful person and was/could be again a very loving and caring wife. But, we must respect her choices just as we respect the ex-husband's. We still consider ourselves close friends with both the man and woman even though we don't get together near as often as before, mostly to the man's desire to focus his time with his partner and his job. As I said, his ex has devoted her time to their child and her job so we don't get to see her as often, either.

cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob

Wow,now I realize why I don't miss this site at all

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

Thank you for sharing such a personal story, as well as your thoughts. It seems to me that you are living a life very much aligned with Christ's teachings, and are open to finding good where others cannot. Bravo.

I've been on OPP for some time now and have been out from the get-go. As I expect honesty from everyone else here, I couldn't in all good conscious have it any other way. Yes, some are not civil to me, but that's their right in a forum where free speech is important. I have a thick skin, and besides, their nastiness seems to say more about them than about me.

PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco

The answer to your question is that what I will say to God, should the occasion
arise, is between God and me, and I have no need at all to share it with you, or anyone else for that matter.

jeremiahbfrog

The church of America and other countries are fulfilling prophecy for the end times, but this is not good: They are of worldly and political complaint, which is ungodly but predicted.

Betta

It doesn't. Neither does it say that Jesus was born on December 25th or that easter is a holy day. Nowhere does God say nor does His Word tell us to celebrate these old Babylonian pagan festival holidays and connect them with Christ. They don't connect with him at all. Yet, preachers teach that it does. This makes them false teachers. Same thing with the pope who is telling folks they don't need to believe in God to get to heaven.

The devil is busy and he is quite cunning. Beware of false teachers. The truth is in God's Word. You will find it nowhere else.

iFrank Loc: San Antonio

This is 1 Timothy 4:1-2
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times ( now is that time) some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron. As for the eating of pork, in Isaiah 65:4-5, God says they are like smoke in His nose, a fire that burneth all the day. So you can try to justify it, but everything is being recorded, since we only have 13 % or so of our brain capacity, the rest is a mystery until we're in our spirit bodies.