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Sep 25, 2013 12:44:42   #
dville Loc: Albuquerque
 
inyourface....You and others are going to have to hold the sanity because I have to leave these threads.

The Reps., well they can rant on their ignorance but it is not totally their fault they only go by what they are told by their electorates. That is sad. Bye Bye

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Sep 25, 2013 17:27:25   #
astrolite
 
dville wrote:
inyourface....You and others are going to have to hold the sanity because I have to leave these threads.

The Reps., well they can rant on their ignorance but it is not totally their fault they only go by what they are told by their electorates. That is sad. Bye Bye


You mean for "inyourface" to FIND his sanity don't you!

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Sep 25, 2013 21:36:42   #
runzwsissors Loc: Calhoun, GA
 
AnnMarie wrote:
I read your article, and the major thrust of it was not WHICH states got more welfare, but simply argued about the designation of each welfare state-trying to convince someone that the welfare state of West Virginia was really blue, and that New Hamshire was red. Sorry Charlie, the definition was the presidental election, the one with the highest turnout, the one least likely to involve local issues and the one most likely to reflect the 'world view' and big picture thinking of the voters. I would think that in most big picture ways-education, healthcare, environment, role of government, etc. New Hampshire is Blue and West Virginia is red.
I read your article, and the major thrust of it wa... (show quote)


+1

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Sep 25, 2013 22:03:57   #
runzwsissors Loc: Calhoun, GA
 
How to argue like a democrat:

Step 1: Tell a lie

Inyourface wrote:
It is ironic that states that vote solid GOP are the same ones that suck up the Government ,largess in disproportionate,amounts.

A typical example is Owsley County,Kentucky. The population is 98 percent white and 81 percent GOP. They have the lowest household ,income in the country. Nearly half of these folks live below the poverty line. Yet their Congressman ,voted against raising the minimum wage to 10.00.

What is the matter with these people? They,like the morons in 213 of the 254 counties whose food stamp use doubled since the Bush/Cheney,economic debacle ,voted for Romney and the GOP in 2012.

Bizarre to say the least.
It is ironic that states that vote solid GOP are t... (show quote)


Step 2: When called on lie, call them names

rrmoderate wrote:
The GOP has relied for years on similar rural counties in states like KY. These require very, very small amounts of invested dollars to elect representatives to Congress and to bring home the electoral votes in presidential elections.

We're fast becoming a nation of 'haves and have-nots'. The demographics and economics in these areas are a perfect storm to perpetuate the GOP and some of their more whacko philosophies.


Step 3: Quickly follow name calling with the racist card

Inyourface wrote:
50,000 Latinos turn 18 EVERY month in the USA. This will soon render these morons irrellevant. Their inabilty to get beyond their racism has made them into "deadenders' who will drive the nation off a cliff.The sooner they are marginalized the better.


Step 4: If steps 1-3 do not work, change the subject

BoJester wrote:
The violent crime statistic in WV are nothing to brag about, not to mention the biggest cottage industry in the state is meth labs. Could help explain why welfare is up, rape is up and theft is up.


http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/wvcrime.htm


Step 5: When all else fails, bring up Bush

I so wanted to find an example of this in this thread. Perhaps before it is over....

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Sep 25, 2013 22:04:29   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Inyourface wrote:
I refer you to the 9/21/2013 Column in the New York Times titled "Red State Pain". by Timothy Egan. He references the 2010 census and the Bloomberg News service among others . Unlike you and your Fox ,dorks I like to use facts before stating an opinion

if that is true, then you are the only lib that is actually armed with facts. last i knew the 2010 census was a joke and the new york times is about the same as zap comix. only difference is zap comix NEVER commited treason!!!

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Sep 25, 2013 22:06:49   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
runzwsissors wrote:
How to argue like a democrat:

Step 1: Tell a lie



Step 5: When all else fails, bring up Bush

I so wanted to find an example of this in this thread. Perhaps before it is over....

touche

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Sep 26, 2013 08:57:13   #
Inyourface Loc: East Coast
 
dville wrote:
inyourface....You and others are going to have to hold the sanity because I have to leave these threads.

The Reps., well they can rant on their ignorance but it is not totally their fault they only go by what they are told by their electorates. That is sad. Bye Bye


Yes this rightwing sewer is a waste of time I know, but listening to their misery is fun.

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Sep 26, 2013 09:04:48   #
handy Loc: so cal
 
you dope, they don't want food stamps, they want to work and earn a living they are not your liberal tit sucking bottom feeders. But I know you won't be able to understand that. Just because their poor does not mean they think that they are owed a living, they are poor because democrats have killed jobs and placed regulations that have robbed them of all sense and ability of self supporting independence.

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Sep 26, 2013 09:39:11   #
astrolite
 
runzwsissors wrote:
How to argue like a democrat:

Step 1: Tell a lie



Step 5: When all else fails, bring up Bush

I so wanted to find an example of this in this thread. Perhaps before it is over....


I like your style! They follow Alinksi almost step by step!

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Sep 26, 2013 09:45:05   #
astrolite
 
cesspool jones wrote:
if that is true, then you are the only lib that is actually armed with facts. last i knew the 2010 census was a joke and the new york times is about the same as zap comix. only difference is zap comix NEVER commited treason!!!


The 2010 census was the latest census to be altered by the libtards, nothing can be believed, and this time because too many people learned about the Alinksi rules, the libtards set up two misinformation sites: Politifact, and Factcheck! Both twist the facts to fit the leftist propaganda! I once loaded an article from The "Times" now I get offers to subscribe???? It ain't freezing in hell yet!

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Sep 26, 2013 09:48:41   #
bluejacket
 
astrolite wrote:
Maybe it would be if it were true....but it is just another libtard lie!


no it isn't a lie ,it is just an uncomfortable truth for you

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Sep 28, 2013 15:48:26   #
AnnMarie Loc: Madison, Wi
 
mmccarty12 wrote:
Obviously, you know little of economics. If you note, the House of Representatives writes the budgets. Since 1980, according the the table shown in the OP article, there has been a 50/50 split in the distribution of elected officials in both the bottom and top welfare states. The Senate approves the budget. The data shows that an average of 63% of Democratic Senators in the bottom of the list were in office and were potentially in favor of the budget as written. There were only 50% of the Republican Senators in the to 10 "welfare" states that potentially voted in favor of the budget. That leaves 50% of Democrat Senators as potentially voting in favor of the budgets as written.


Breakdown of data from OP Article
Number of Democrats elected in states in the top and bottom 10 welfare states
Welfare States Top 10 Bottom 10
President 2 8
Senator 5 7
Representative 4 7
Governor 4 4

If you look at this data another way, Democrats are not doing a very good job of getting Federal funding for their constituents. In the case of the Bottom 10, the Democrats in the Legislature had an overwhelming number of representation to vote for or against the budgets as written. There was also a roughly 50/50 split vote potential in the Top 10 Welfare States.

I have to ask how the spread works for the other 30 states not mentioned in the article. Is it possible that the split for Top 25 Welfare states is overwhelmingly Democrat? Republican?
Obviously, you know little of economics. If you n... (show quote)



Give it a rest-the comment was that the states who voted for the republician presidental candidate, have a red state, tea bagger world view, typically the former confederacy, are the biggest pigs at the federal trough. That comment stands-I don't buy that crap that West VA was really blue and NH was red. My ass. If the presidental candidates don't need to visit your state, if you are not innundated with campaign commercials, you are clearly in one colume or the other. If you are in the Red colume, Texas, SC, MS,Georgia, OK, WVA, you a tend to have poorer people, less education, less opportunity, just LESS of everything except government handouts. You red states all profess to hate government, but have you hand out for the benefits. What a bunch of hypocrites!

I say cut ya off-learn to pull yourselves up by your bootstraps.

Blue states tend to pay more taxes, have richer and better educated people, more opportunity, and are an all around better place to live. Your former presidential candidate moved to San Diego, that bluest of the blues.

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Sep 28, 2013 15:56:01   #
BoJester
 
Many of these republicans governors endorse poverty by refusing to expand Medicaid for the poor, and refuse to set up ACA insurance exchanges.
The one thing they do well is complain






AnnMarie wrote:
Give it a rest-the comment was that the states who voted for the republician presidental candidate, have a red state, tea bagger world view, typically the former confederacy, are the biggest pigs at the federal trough. That comment stands-I don't buy that crap that West VA was really blue and NH was red. My ass. If the presidental candidates don't need to visit your state, if you are not innundated with campaign commercials, you are clearly in one colume or the other. If you are in the Red colume, Texas, SC, MS,Georgia, OK, WVA, you a tend to have poorer people, less education, less opportunity, just LESS of everything except government handouts. You red states all profess to hate government, but have you hand out for the benefits. What a bunch of hypocrites!

I say cut ya off-learn to pull yourselves up by your bootstraps.

Blue states tend to pay more taxes, have richer and better educated people, more opportunity, and are an all around better place to live. Your former presidential candidate moved to San Diego, that bluest of the blues.
Give it a rest-the comment was that the states who... (show quote)

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Sep 28, 2013 16:25:15   #
dville Loc: Albuquerque
 
According to my search the red states have a higher violent and property crime rate than the blue states.

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Sep 28, 2013 17:16:43   #
AnnMarie Loc: Madison, Wi
 
dville wrote:
According to my search the red states have a higher violent and property crime rate than the blue states.


Just one more thing to recommend them.

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