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Sep 22, 2013 16:11:47   #
carolyn
 
As I understand it, there are several cities across our country that are advocates of integrating Sharia Law into American laws. After reading what Sharia law stands for, I find this also hard to believe. Now remember, this is written in want of more information, and not what I believe or say because some on my last request for more information took it as a statement of fact.

But there are several reasons that I feel it can't be possible in this country because this goes directly against our constitution and Bill of Rights. And I certainly hope self-respect.

In the Muslim faith, which is backed up by Sharia Law, a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old. He can have sexual intimacy with this child, consummating the marriage by age 9. And even though a woman is abused by her husband, she cannot obtain a divorce.

If this is correct, what form of madness would make any American city even consider giving these sub-par poor excuses of human beings the acknowledgement of accepting these miscreants as being residents, least of all human beings?

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Sep 22, 2013 16:32:21   #
bruce1954
 
"But there are several reasons that I feel it can't be possible in this country because this goes directly against our constitution and Bill of Rights. And I certainly hope self-respect."

Have you not been paying attention?

The constitution has been trampled on, at every step, for awhile now. What makes you think it will be respected further?

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Sep 22, 2013 16:40:24   #
carolyn
 
bruce1954 wrote:
"But there are several reasons that I feel it can't be possible in this country because this goes directly against our constitution and Bill of Rights. And I certainly hope self-respect."

Have you not been paying attention?

The constitution has been trampled on, at every step, for awhile now. What makes you think it will be respected further?


That is the first thing I thought of when I read the article, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there had the same thoughts. But the article did say that at the rate the Muslims were flooding into the country, it would not be long before they elected their own president. What is scary, though, is the fact that if all the illegals would vote for Sharia law, then we and the constitution would be history.

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Sep 22, 2013 16:46:40   #
rumitoid
 
carolyn wrote:
As I understand it, there are several cities across our country that are advocates of integrating Sharia Law into American laws. After reading what Sharia law stands for, I find this also hard to believe. Now remember, this is written in want of more information, and not what I believe or say because some on my last request for more information took it as a statement of fact.

But there are several reasons that I feel it can't be possible in this country because this goes directly against our constitution and Bill of Rights. And I certainly hope self-respect.

In the Muslim faith, which is backed up by Sharia Law, a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old. He can have sexual intimacy with this child, consummating the marriage by age 9. And even though a woman is abused by her husband, she cannot obtain a divorce.

If this is correct, what form of madness would make any American city even consider giving these sub-par poor excuses of human beings the acknowledgement of accepting these miscreants as being residents, least of all human beings?
As I understand it, there are several cities acros... (show quote)


From what I have read, the opposite is true: states or cities have been looking to ban or outlaw Sharia Law through legislation. Here is a link that addresses that mistaken and dangerous notion:
http://www.thenation.com/article/168378/true-story-sharia-american-courts#

Found no hint anywhere in the good old US of A where there is an attempt to integrate Sharia Law. Fear and hate of Muslims seems to be propelling attempts in many cities to stop the building of mosques, ban public exhibitions of the Islamic faith, and limit their access to government.
Another link to peruse:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/11/sharia-law-kansas-ban_n_1510773.html

Here is views from the other side: http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2013/01/06/terror-linked-cair-lobby-washington-state-politicians-to-pass-sharia-resolution/
http://aconservativeedge.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/north-carolina-becomes-7th-state-to-ban-muslim-sharia-law/

This link gives a case by case study of the seven states that have banned Shaira Law:
http://shariahinamericancourts.com/?page_id=305

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Sep 22, 2013 17:04:37   #
carolyn
 
rumitoid wrote:
From what I have read, the opposite is true: states or cities have been looking to ban or outlaw Sharia Law through legislation. Here is a link that addresses that mistaken and dangerous notion:
http://www.thenation.com/article/168378/true-story-sharia-american-courts#

Found no hint anywhere in the good old US of A where there is an attempt to integrate Sharia Law. Fear and hate of Muslims seems to be propelling attempts in many cities to stop the building of mosques, ban public exhibitions of the Islamic faith, and limit their access to government.
Another link to peruse:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/11/sharia-law-kansas-ban_n_1510773.html

Here is views from the other side: http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2013/01/06/terror-linked-cair-lobby-washington-state-politicians-to-pass-sharia-resolution/
http://aconservativeedge.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/north-carolina-becomes-7th-state-to-ban-muslim-sharia-law/

This link gives a case by case study of the seven states that have banned Shaira Law:
http://shariahinamericancourts.com/?page_id=305
From what I have read, the opposite is true: state... (show quote)


I believe the article said that one of the cities to watch was Dearborn, Mich., and the state of Michigan as a whole because it seems that for some reason there was more Muslims taking up residency there than any other state.

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Sep 22, 2013 17:20:44   #
rumitoid
 
carolyn wrote:
I believe the article said that one of the cities to watch was Dearborn, Mich., and the state of Michigan as a whole because it seems that for some reason there was more Muslims taking up residency there than any other state.


Carolyn, you are right. That area, as far as I know (and I wonder why?), has the greatest concentration of Muslims. To think in the present atmosphere after a second 9/11 attack that this group, apparently with some influence, might not look, as any group does, to gain some political protection is naive. Whether those attempts are a slippery slope toward Sharia Law, if successful of course, depends on far too many factors. Frankly, the way most Americans feel, they would be in internment camps well before Shair Law has a chance to pass.

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Sep 22, 2013 17:28:07   #
Michael David Smith
 
Dear Carolynn: The handful of Moslams that I have spoken with are among those who disagree with certain elements of their culture, in fact one was a refugee fleeing the extremists, but unfortunately yes the behavior you denounced is tolerated under Sharia Law, and yes, there are people in this Country who aren't Moslams but who are willing to welcome this with open arms. I'm willing to concede that many are simply in desperate need of education, but given the level of education and the amount of information available in this Country that excuse wears thin very quickly. Of course some are simply stupid and some are subhumans themselves. Article One of the Bill of Rights forbids the Government to establish or empower a religion over the others or the people in general and allowing Sharia Law to over rule our Criminal Law would certainly be imposing a religion on us. l've always advocated people having to pass a test showing they know and understand their responsibilities as Citizens and have some ability to excise their Rights in a responsible manner before they can vote or assume the full expanse of their so called Birth Rights. I guess that should be amended to include testing to see if they qualify as Human Beings. After all, Citizenship is supposed to be reserved for Humans. Michael David Smith

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Sep 22, 2013 17:53:30   #
rumitoid
 
Michael David Smith wrote:
Dear Carolynn: The handful of Moslams that I have spoken with are among those who disagree with certain elements of their culture, in fact one was a refugee fleeing the extremists, but unfortunately yes the behavior you denounced is tolerated under Sharia Law, and yes, there are people in this Country who aren't Moslams but who are willing to welcome this with open arms. I'm willing to concede that many are simply in desperate need of education, but given the level of education and the amount of information available in this Country that excuse wears thin very quickly. Of course some are simply stupid and some are subhumans themselves. Article One of the Bill of Rights forbids the Government to establish or empower a religion over the others or the people in general and allowing Sharia Law to over rule our Criminal Law would certainly be imposing a religion on us. l've always advocated people having to pass a test showing they know and understand their responsibilities as Citizens and have some ability to excise their Rights in a responsible manner before they can vote or assume the full expanse of their so called Birth Rights. I guess that should be amended to include testing to see if they qualify as Human Beings. After all, Citizenship is supposed to be reserved for Humans. Michael David Smith
Dear Carolynn: The handful of Moslams that I have ... (show quote)


According to many for a number of centuries, Blacks did not qualify as human beings, nor did many of the indigenous people for maurading empires. The Bible was used by a prominent Christian preacher, Cotton Mather, to condone slavery because Blacks were the children of "Adam and Noah." Who will administer this test of yours? Are "illegal immigrants" human? Homosexuals? Democrats?

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Sep 23, 2013 10:14:47   #
msbets
 
yes, Carolyn this is truly disgusting, how about the 8 year old raped by her 40 year old husband and bled to death, and you better believe this jackal in our oval office is a muzzie, they don't care if it's a homo, they don't care if it says it's christian, do anything for the cause they will forgive it, as they long as it hands us over to islam lock,stock and barrel.

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Sep 23, 2013 12:05:06   #
carolyn
 
Michael David Smith wrote:
Dear Carolynn: The handful of Moslams that I have spoken with are among those who disagree with certain elements of their culture, in fact one was a refugee fleeing the extremists, but unfortunately yes the behavior you denounced is tolerated under Sharia Law, and yes, there are people in this Country who aren't Moslams but who are willing to welcome this with open arms. I'm willing to concede that many are simply in desperate need of education, but given the level of education and the amount of information available in this Country that excuse wears thin very quickly. Of course some are simply stupid and some are subhumans themselves. Article One of the Bill of Rights forbids the Government to establish or empower a religion over the others or the people in general and allowing Sharia Law to over rule our Criminal Law would certainly be imposing a religion on us. l've always advocated people having to pass a test showing they know and understand their responsibilities as Citizens and have some ability to excise their Rights in a responsible manner before they can vote or assume the full expanse of their so called Birth Rights. I guess that should be amended to include testing to see if they qualify as Human Beings. After all, Citizenship is supposed to be reserved for Humans. Michael David Smith
Dear Carolynn: The handful of Moslams that I have ... (show quote)


I believe that if any nationality wants to immigrate into our country they should be ready to accept our culture and laws, and not try and bring their laws and culture to our country. If they are not willing to live as Americans, then I believe they should stay in their own country stay. But isn't that one of the provisions of our immigration laws? So why are we allowing these immigrants to come here illegally all of a sudden? We must have elected a whole bunch of anti-Americans in Washington.

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Sep 23, 2013 12:15:48   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
rumitoid wrote:
According to many for a number of centuries, Blacks did not qualify as human beings, nor did many of the indigenous people for maurading empires. The Bible was used by a prominent Christian preacher, Cotton Mather, to condone slavery because Blacks were the children of "Adam and Noah." Who will administer this test of yours? Are "illegal immigrants" human? Homosexuals? Democrats?


:wink: :thumbup:

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Sep 23, 2013 13:33:57   #
uptight
 
Kill it, kill it, Kill it!

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Sep 23, 2013 14:29:43   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
bruce1954 wrote:
"But there are several reasons that I feel it can't be possible in this country because this goes directly against our constitution and Bill of Rights. And I certainly hope self-respect."

Have you not been paying attention?

The constitution has been trampled on, at every step, for awhile now. What makes you think it will be respected further?


for the same reason a muslim can not be a patriotic american citizen

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Sep 23, 2013 14:31:08   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
carolyn wrote:
That is the first thing I thought of when I read the article, but I wanted to see if anyone else out there had the same thoughts. But the article did say that at the rate the Muslims were flooding into the country, it would not be long before they elected their own president. What is scary, though, is the fact that if all the illegals would vote for Sharia law, then we and the constitution would be history.


the muslims already have their muslim president

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Sep 23, 2013 14:35:13   #
alex Loc: michigan now imperial beach californa
 
rumitoid wrote:
Carolyn, you are right. That area, as far as I know (and I wonder why?), has the greatest concentration of Muslims. To think in the present atmosphere after a second 9/11 attack that this group, apparently with some influence, might not look, as any group does, to gain some political protection is naive. Whether those attempts are a slippery slope toward Sharia Law, if successful of course, depends on far too many factors. Frankly, the way most Americans feel, they would be in internment camps well before Shair Law has a chance to pass.
Carolyn, you are right. That area, as far as I kno... (show quote)


look at a map it's right across the river from Canada that's why Joe Kennedy ran his boats across there during probition

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