Sharia Law (Page 7): I clearly stated childhood sex was NOT ok. But just telling someone no doesn't mean they will listen. Let me guess.... All your little darlings waited until...

Molly

I clearly stated childhood sex was NOT ok. But just telling someone no
doesn't mean they will listen. Let me guess.... All your little darlings waited until marriage? Or are you overcompensating your anger because you couldn't prevent it?

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Molly wrote:

You are so narrow minded and ignorant of reality that I don't even know how to reply. Every time you go making assumptions about things I can prove you wrong with just my life experience, so how many other millions of woman could do the same.

Do you like a******n? Do you like when parents beat their kids or treat them like crap? Then morally what you should want to do is prevent that from happening. No, teenagers shouldn't have sex at the rate they do. And surely no parent is immune or can prevent that without locking their child up. I can pretty much guarantee your children have lied to you on numerous occasions because I know how children under parents with such narrow views get by/ Not only was I one, but so were most of my friends as a teenager as I grew up in church and was a teen youth leader in an almost 500 teenager youth group growing up. I grew up there and so did most of my friends. Many weren't that bad, and others hid some pretty disturbing things pretty well. My daughter doesn't have to lie to me and when I found out she was starting to think about it I placed $900 of birth control in her arm. Out of my pocket. Insurance didn't cover it but because she could be honest with me about it I could protect her for 3 years from any unintended pregnancies.

That is not the norm. More often then not kids lie about it or have completely erroneous ideas about sex and birth control and how to prevent babies. Its scary. They don't know these things because parents just say don't have sex and leave it as that. In comes PP.. they help prevent so many unwanted pregnancies.

Let me tell you a few things about unwanted pregnancies. And to be clear I do mean unwanted, not just unintended. Many of those come out just fine.But if a pregnancy is truly unwanted it will likely end in a******n or abuse or neglect. Media, as it has in the last few generations, pushes it on our kids through many various outlets. You aren't going to stop that any time soon. SO while it sucks, ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away. It exists and we as society need to be here to minimize that damage. And this is only referring to teens, there are many other women who seek out PP for a variety of other reasons.

But back to my main point. I get your moral views, I grew up with them. But that isn't the reality. Yes kids have more sex these days, but teenagers have been having sex since Adam and Eve. People married earlier.. even around age 13 starting in many of the earliest civilizations. Bodies are programmed to become physically mature at a young age. And while people do marry early still, so many want to go to college and get into a career and go into marriage more secure. That is admirable as well. Doesn't mean they don't become sexually mature til 25. Do you see why your view of all premarital sex is s**t sex is out of touch with what is going on? Would you rather just preach at people and make false assumptions about them and bury your head in a hole? How does that make sense to anyone?

You are so narrow minded and ignorant of reality t... (show quote)

It does make sense to those lost in past centuries.

Molly, you are wasting your time arguing 21st century reality with anyone trapped as a prisoner with a 18th or 19th century viewpoint of a womans' world.

Arguing with one such as that is tantamount to trying to put out a forest fire by urinating on it. A valiant effort will get you nowhere.

Do not further dignify her comments with responses. She argues against her own case everytime she espouses her insulting, and degrading nonsense. :thumbdown:

Homestead

Molly wrote:

What are your views on a******n and child abuse? If you don't like them then its in your best interest to prevent it. The benefits outweigh the cost if you are against a******n or child abuse.

I find it interesting that your solution to a moral problem is the murder of an innocent child while fighting to maintain the non-moral behaviour that created it.

If a child, who had no say in it's conception, has no right to live, then what makes your life worth anything.

When people are unprepared for raising a child, your solution is to encourage the behaviour that created it.
Society used to spend a significant amount of time, resources and money in preparing children for adult and parenthood, as they grew up.
Now all you want to do is give them drugs and tell them to go play adult games and don't worry about the moral or ethical consequences.

In the plains of Africa, among the aboriginal tribes that still hunt with spears, they have a saying:

"It takes an entire village to raise a child."

You knock out the social underpinnings of the society that supports the raising of children.

This leads to all kind of hardships and the destruction of peoples lives.

You then point to these problems which you have created and use them as an excuse to continue the destruction of the very social norms that were there to prevent it.

Molly

So your solution to the real world issue of premarital sex is tell them no and cross your fingers? This will solve all the unwanted pregnancies out there? Abstinence has already been proven as ineffective in the fight to prevent teen pregnancy. You can't control every parent out there and so many don't pay any attention to their kids at all. On the flip side, parents who make every effort can still have kids that make bad choices. You cannot prevent this by saying it ain't so.

And slatten49... I'm realizing that. I'm just trying to give these people perspective and challenge their minds to think outside their own tiny boxes. It does seem pretty futile. But problems cannot be solved when people just like to blame everyone else like it solves anything.

Homestead

Molly wrote:

So your solution to the real world issue of premar... (show quote)

The "real" solution is to hold people accountable for their actions.
If a man gets a women pregnant or if a woman gets pregnant, it is their duty to pay for and raise that child.

If that is too much to ask, then maybe they'd better grow up first.

It is not societies job to pay for it.

And it is sure as hell not my job to pay for they're stupidity.

When society made it very plain that individuals were responsible for their own actions and that they were going to have to find and impliment their own solutions, we didn't have this kind of runaway teenage pregnancies.

Molly

Yes, that solves the problems. Just tell them not to do it. Babies will be cared for and people will get jobs. That's a great solution....lol

Homestead

Molly wrote:

Yes, that solves the problems. Just tell them not to do it. Babies will be cared for and people will get jobs. That's a great solution....lol

The solution is to train children as they grow up that some day they will be parents. It is a big responsibility.

They should be taught how to care for children and focussed on what they want to do in life to earn a living in order to pay for they're own children.

In the old days they called it, "scaring the hell out of them with reality."
It worked for the vast majority of the people.

Which left, only a few malcontents messes to clean up.

Molly

Well, since that has failed should we just keep at it?

Homestead

Molly wrote:

Well, since that has failed should we just keep at it?

Let's start with reality.
It's too much to ask people to learn their history and find out why our forefathers said that, "only a Virtuous people can govern themselves."

So let's start with the modern forces that have figured out how to destroy America and weaken it, in pr********n, for their benifit.

It shouldn't require to much common sense or intelligence to understand, that if an entity, is destroying a country from within, it is doing so by attacking certain principles and institutions that, that country has, whose destruction leads to disorder, hardships and social upheaval that wasnt t there before.

To regain the order that was destroyed, it shouldn't take a PHD to realize, that what was done, needs to be reversed and the destruction repaired.

So the very next question you should have is:
"What was done? and How?"

Here is your first clue, by an individual, who's job it was to make it happen.

Yuri Bezmenov (former kgb) Psychological Warfare Subversion & Control of Western Society - Complete
http://www.the912project.us/forum/topics/c*******t-goals-1963-how-many?commentId=2881797%3AComment%3A2711721&xg_source=msg_com_forum

The following is what American c*******ts have been up to in this country. In 1963 they were just goals, I'll leave it to you to decide how successful they've been.
Pay particular attention to goals 21 through 32

C*******t Goals (1963)
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/c*******m/comgoals.htm

Not that America didn't have enemies in the past. The global bankers of the 1840's did not like America either. It seems that moral countries are hard to o*******w and take over.
Once you've read the c*******t list for undermining and taking over America, you might want to compare it to a list that was written in 1840 with the same idea in mind.

The Rothschild Manifesto - circa 1840?
http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/government/new_world_order/news.php?q=1206725198

carolyn

Molly wrote:

I clearly stated childhood sex was NOT ok. But just telling someone no
doesn't mean they will listen. Let me guess.... All your little darlings waited until marriage? Or are you overcompensating your anger because you couldn't prevent it?

My daughter was married 9 years before she had her little boy. She dated her future husband in college and married him shortly after graduation. I am not saying that they did not have sex before marriage, but if they did I am sure they PAID for their own protection themselves, as you or your kids' should pay for their protection also. There is no way taxpayers should pay for this, or pay for anyone having an illegitimate child every nine months. This simply is not what our taxes should be used for. And if the government would stop paying rewards for these l***hes having babies simply for a bigger welfare check, it would stop.

Homestead

carolyn wrote:

My daughter was married 9 years before she had her... (show quote)

Here's a study that indicates, that when you quit pushing sex and making it easier, the kids have less of it.

Study Shows Big Drop in Teen Pregnancy Rates as Planned Parenthood Clinics Close.
http://www.lifenews.com/2013/10/04/study-shows-big-drop-in-teen-pregnancy-rates-as-planned-parenthood-clinics-close/