One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
No Fat to Cut at the IRS -
Page 1 of 3 next> last>>
Dec 29, 2014 17:32:35   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/29/no-fat-to-cut-at-the-irs-so-take-a-chain

No Fat to Cut at the IRS?So Take a Chainsaw to the Rest of the Beast.

CapitolLogan's RunJust before Christmas, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen called a press conference to complain that Congress just isn't giving tax collectors enough money to extract revenues from the American people. "We're well beyond cutting out any fat. And we're now into cutting, as people say, muscle headed toward bone."

Of course, Koskinen framed it in terms of customer service, and friendly media outlets immediately parroted the message that a $346 million cut, bringing the IRS budget down to $10.9 billion, inevitably means longer wait times on the phone for distraught taxpayers seeking answers for their pressing tax questions.

This is an all-hands-on-deck spin on IRS cuts, with National Taxpayer Advocate Nina Olson (who is theoretically on the victims' side, despite her government paycheck) recruited to caution that the IRS is "chronically underfunded" with unfortunate implications for taxpayer service and assistance.

Then again, that might not be so horrible an outcome, given that IRS assistance involved giving taxpayers bad advice 22 percent of the time back in 1987, 41 percent of the time in 1989, 22 percent of the time in 2002, and 43 percent of the time in 2003. And no matter the advice dispensed by the tax collectors themselves, taxpayers are on the hook for getting it right.

OMBOMBThese days, the IRS focuses more on how few calls it has the resources to answer rather than the dangerous possibility that one of its employees might actually pick up the phone and speak into it. Still, maybe a few cuts to taxpayer service and assistance aren't such a tragedy if that thins the ranks able to mangle the response to an occasional query.

But it's not just the call center taking a hit. Koskinen warns that a leaner IRS will collect less revenue.

Well, cry me a river. While I have a dream that someday wind will blow through the broken windows of the Capitol Building and chase trash around the abandoned hallways, this minor budget trim is unlikely to do the job. Federal government receipts are currently at 17.3 percent of GDP (XLS), expected to rise to 18.3 percent next year, and 19 percent in 2018. The beast, it ain't starving—to the contrary, it's fattening up on us. A bit of a diet won't hurt.

Given the alternatives, a few cuts to an IRS that may be at its least dangerous when it's illegitimately targeting political groups isn't all that frightening a prospect.

Reply
Dec 29, 2014 23:19:42   #
Airforceone
 
AuntiE wrote:
http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/29/no-fat-to-cut-at-the-irs-so-take-a-chain

No Fat to Cut at the IRS?So Take a Chainsaw to the Rest of the Beast.

CapitolLogan's RunJust before Christmas, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen called a press conference to complain that Congress just isn't giving tax collectors enough money to extract revenues from the American people. "We're well beyond cutting out any fat. And we're now into cutting, as people say, muscle headed toward bone."

Of course, Koskinen framed it in terms of customer service, and friendly media outlets immediately parroted the message that a $346 million cut, bringing the IRS budget down to $10.9 billion, inevitably means longer wait times on the phone for distraught taxpayers seeking answers for their pressing tax questions.

This is an all-hands-on-deck spin on IRS cuts, with National Taxpayer Advocate Nina Olson (who is theoretically on the victims' side, despite her government paycheck) recruited to caution that the IRS is "chronically underfunded" with unfortunate implications for taxpayer service and assistance.

Then again, that might not be so horrible an outcome, given that IRS assistance involved giving taxpayers bad advice 22 percent of the time back in 1987, 41 percent of the time in 1989, 22 percent of the time in 2002, and 43 percent of the time in 2003. And no matter the advice dispensed by the tax collectors themselves, taxpayers are on the hook for getting it right.

OMBOMBThese days, the IRS focuses more on how few calls it has the resources to answer rather than the dangerous possibility that one of its employees might actually pick up the phone and speak into it. Still, maybe a few cuts to taxpayer service and assistance aren't such a tragedy if that thins the ranks able to mangle the response to an occasional query.

But it's not just the call center taking a hit. Koskinen warns that a leaner IRS will collect less revenue.

Well, cry me a river. While I have a dream that someday wind will blow through the broken windows of the Capitol Building and chase trash around the abandoned hallways, this minor budget trim is unlikely to do the job. Federal government receipts are currently at 17.3 percent of GDP (XLS), expected to rise to 18.3 percent next year, and 19 percent in 2018. The beast, it ain't starving—to the contrary, it's fattening up on us. A bit of a diet won't hurt.

Given the alternatives, a few cuts to an IRS that may be at its least dangerous when it's illegitimately targeting political groups isn't all that frightening a prospect.
http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/29/no-fat-to-cut-at... (show quote)


Why do you want to protect political groups that are breaking the law. What the hell is wrong with you.

Reply
Dec 29, 2014 23:39:55   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Why do you want to protect political groups that are breaking the law. What the hell is wrong with you.


Out of the whole article you focus on only the final sentence.

Reply
 
 
Dec 30, 2014 11:25:53   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
AuntiE wrote:
Out of the whole article you focus on only the final sentence.


Aunti, I would like to take the whole dog-gone government, in DC, cut at least in half - than maybe they will do only half the damage they have been doing - they may even get rid of half of their DEAD WOOD.

They should cut 3/4 of all the Departments they have created, starting with education and turning that back to the states. There were 35 (agencies and departments)under just A, times 35 by the rest of the alphabet and it comes to a total of 910. Maybe some letters have fewer, but odds are some letters have even more.

They want their finger in every pot, I know what I'd like in that pot for their fingers.

Reply
Dec 30, 2014 20:06:08   #
Airforceone
 
BearK wrote:
Aunti, I would like to take the whole dog-gone government, in DC, cut at least in half - than maybe they will do only half the damage they have been doing - they may even get rid of half of their DEAD WOOD.

They should cut 3/4 of all the Departments they have created, starting with education and turning that back to the states. There were 35 (agencies and departments)under just A, times 35 by the rest of the alphabet and it comes to a total of 910. Maybe some letters have fewer, but odds are some letters have even more.

They want their finger in every pot, I know what I'd like in that pot for their fingers.
Aunti, I would like to take the whole dog-gone gov... (show quote)


Can you imagine if they turned the educational system over to TN, SC, LA, and Mississippi Damm the foolish statements made on this site is outrageous.

Reply
Dec 31, 2014 05:26:41   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Can you imagine if they turned the educational system over to TN, SC, LA, and Mississippi Damm the foolish statements made on this site is outrageous.


Before the government got their nose in it - that is the way it was. I got 20 times the education the kids are getting today with that DUMB DOWN approach of Common Core they are learning very little.

When did you graduate from High School, and where?

Reply
Jan 2, 2015 16:17:59   #
Airforceone
 
BearK wrote:
Before the government got their nose in it - that is the way it was. I got 20 times the education the kids are getting today with that DUMB DOWN approach of Common Core they are learning very little.

When did you graduate from High School, and where?


Answer me a question if we turn the educational system over to these private investors what happens when 30% go bankrupt every year does the GOPTP bail them out like the big banks come on get real. It will cost more to privateized they will be looking for tax payer money constantly. But that's your GOPTP of propaganda

Reply
 
 
Jan 2, 2015 16:34:46   #
Comment Loc: California
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Why do you want to protect political groups that are breaking the law. What the hell is wrong with you.


You fracking asshole! Not one of those law breakers hads been charged.
you are totally a dirty asshole. You presume all conservatives are breaking the law. You have abandoned the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. You are definitely a stupid turdnest.

Reply
Jan 2, 2015 19:20:41   #
BearK Loc: TN
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Answer me a question if we turn the educational system over to these private investors what happens when 30% go bankrupt every year does the GOPTP bail them out like the big banks come on get real. It will cost more to privateized they will be looking for tax payer money constantly. But that's your GOPTP of propaganda


Who said anything about private investors - I am saying turn it back to the states (period)

Reply
Jan 3, 2015 01:34:44   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Can you imagine if they turned the educational system over to TN, SC, LA, and Mississippi Damm the foolish statements made on this site is outrageous.


You ought to know, you make most of them.

Reply
Jan 3, 2015 03:01:20   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
tdsrnest wrote:
Answer me a question if we turn the educational system over to these private investors what happens when 30% go bankrupt every year does the GOPTP bail them out like the big banks come on get real. It will cost more to privateized they will be looking for tax payer money constantly. But that's your GOPTP of propaganda


Where did she mention "private investors"? She said to the individual states. Perhaps you have not noticed the precipitous drop in our standing, educationally, since the inception of the Department of UnEducation.

As an added note, it was private investors in educational systems who wrote Common Core.

Reply
 
 
Jan 3, 2015 13:22:29   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
AuntiE wrote:
Where did she mention "private investors"? She said to the individual states. Perhaps you have not noticed the precipitous drop in our standing, educationally, since the inception of the Department of UnEducation.

As an added note, it was private investors in educational systems who wrote Common Core.


"BINGO!"

Reply
Jan 3, 2015 15:21:17   #
Airforceone
 
BearK wrote:
Who said anything about private investors - I am saying turn it back to the states (period)


Ya right then we will have 22 red states with a bunch of dumb people because the red state governors do not believe in educating the poor and middle class all they do is cut there education funding and fire there teachers to give the corporate elite tax breaks. Look at SC, Mississippi, TN, WI, Ohio, TX, LA, Kansas so pretty dumb people

Reply
Jan 3, 2015 15:57:23   #
Comment Loc: California
 
[quote=tdsrnest]Can you imagine if they turned the educational system over to TN, SC, LA, and Mississippi

Dumb Turd, you are the least educated, ignorant turd I have ever encountered. All government agencies are unconstitutional. The only reason they exist is because congress is tired of governing and passed their duties onto the executive branch. I suppose they did that so they could spend more time with the lobbyist who are buying their vote. Because the Dept. of Edu. is not legal they have no right to force states to follow their rule. You dumb shit, because libturds have run the country for the last 100 years you think you have the answers. Yu don't have a clue. It's really scary that dumb asses like you can vote. No wonder the country has become a cesspool. With a faggot president, and a drag queen as 1st lady and the liberal left's penchant for drag queen respectability. Pardon me while I puke.

Reply
Jan 3, 2015 15:59:17   #
Comment Loc: California
 
[quote=Billhuggins]
tdsrnest wrote:
Can you imagine if they turned the educational system over to TN, SC, LA, and Mississippi

Dumb Turd, you are the least educated, ignorant turd I have ever encountered. All government agencies are unconstitutional. The only reason they exist is because congress is tired of governing and passed their duties onto the executive branch. I suppose they did that so they could spend more time with the lobbyist who are buying their vote. Because the Dept. of Edu. is not legal they have no right to force states to follow their rule. You dumb shit, because libturds have run the country for the last 100 years you think you have the answers. Yu don't have a clue. It's really scary that dumb asses like you can vote. No wonder the country has become a cesspool. With a faggot president, and a drag queen as 1st lady and the liberal left's penchant for drag queen respectability. Pardon me while I puke.
Can you imagine if they turned the educational sys... (show quote)


Since the federal dept of edu was created the US edu system has fallen substantially behind some 3rd world countries..

Reply
Page 1 of 3 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.