what's your point, that you get it that education is the answer great now go ingrain that into inner city youth.

But you don't know skwat about how or where all of the money goes in any given school district. 80% is spent on programs other than the classroom. Have you ever been in Mpls ? Do you know the district will bus your kids anywhere you want to send them anywhere within the district?

You really should stop the hate and start teaching the youth what it takes to be successful.

Jose doesn't live in my neighborhood or compete with me for a job. You are one self hating SOB. I can't wait until Hispanics take political control of Black cities like they did in Compton Ca. Charlie Rangel nearly lost his seat to a Latino in Harlem the African American cultural epicenter. I pray Hispanics will take over Detroit and clean it up. So I agree with you. Hispanics are not the Blacks of the 60s. As much as you want them to be. They are already more advanced than Blacks of 2014 with higher test scores too.

**Good for them...I wish them well....and when I said they were/are blacks in the 60's, I am referring to coming to fruition politically.....I had higher test scores than whites, so now what? And no, they are not more advanced....go to Texas and chedk out black universities such as Prairie View A&M...where excellence prevails and degrees in engineering, education, nursing can be earned...they are flagship universities to the extent that whites are attending and now they are trying to take the historical name away and change it to Texas A&M @ Prairie View...I have freinds with M.D.'s from Howard.....wealthy as hell....you have absorbed the stereotypical views and really think that is the overall black condition...you need to get out more and look aroud....

**Good for them...I wish them well....and when I said they were/are blacks in the 60's, I am referring to coming to fruition politically.....I had higher test scores than whites, so now what? And no, they are not more advanced....go to Texas and chedk out black universities such as Prairie View A&M...where excellence prevails and degrees in engineering, education, nursing can be earned...they are flagship universities to the extent that whites are attending and now they are trying to take the historical name away and change it to Texas A&M @ Prairie View...I have freinds with M.D.'s from Howard.....wealthy as hell....you have absorbed the stereotypical views and really think that is the overall black condition...you need to get out more and look aroud....

**THIS IS WHY I DETEST CONSERVATIVES....EVEN WHEN PROVEN SOCIAL RESEARCH OUTLINING RACIAL DISPARITIES WITH INCARCERATION, SCHOOL PUNISHMENT, HIRING, PROMOTION AND EVEN MEDICAL TREATMENT IS PROVIDED...THEY DISMISS IT AS CONJECTURE WITHOUT ANY TYPE PROOF TO THE CONTRARY...AND SPEAK AS IF BLACK PEOPLE WANT SPECIAL AS OPPOSED TO EQUAL TREATMENT..HENCE WHY THEY ARE RACISTS IN MY BOOK....BECAUSE CONSERVATISM MEANS TO CONSERVE THE STATUS QUO...AND ALL THE HISTORICAL RACIAL INEQUITIES THAT COME WITH IT**

By Thomas Sowell November 18, 2014 12:25 pm


If anyone still has any doubt about the utter cynicism of the Obama administration, a recent agreement between the federal government and the Minneapolis Public Schools should open their eyes.

Under the Obama administration, both the Department of Education and the Department of Justice have been leaning on public schools around the country to reduce what they call the "disproportionate" numbers of black male students who are punished for various offenses in schools.

Under an implicit threat of losing their federal subsidies, the Minneapolis Public Schools have agreed to reduce the disparity in punishment of black students by 25 percent by the end of this school year, and then by 50 percent, 75 percent and finally 100 percent in each of the following years. In other words, there are now racial quota limits for punishment in the Minneapolis schools.

If we stop and think -- as old-fashioned as that may seem -- there is not the slightest reason to expect black males to commit the same number of offenses as Asian females or any other set of students.

When different groups of human beings have behaved differently in all sorts of ways, in countries around the world, for thousands of years of recorded history, why would we accept as dogma that the only reason one set of students gets punished more than others is because the people who are doing the punishing are picking on them?

Politically -- which is the way the Obama administration looks at everything -- any time they can depict blacks as victims, and depict themselves as their rescuers, that means an opportunity to get out the black vote for Democrats.

On the surface, this may look like a favor to blacks. But only on the surface.

Anyone with common sense knows that letting a kid get away with bad behavior is an open invitation to worse behavior in the future. Punishing a kid for misbehavior in school when he is 10 years old may reduce the chances that he will have to be sent to prison when he is 20 years old.

Other schools in other cities, which have also caved under pressure from the federal government, and agreed to lighten up on black kids who misbehave, have reported an increase in misbehavior, including violence. Who would have thought otherwise?

Letting kids who are behavior problems in schools grow up to become hoodlums and then criminals is no favor to them or to the black community. Moreover, it takes no more than a small fraction of troublemakers in a class to make it impossible to give that class a decent education. And for many poor people, whether black or white, education is their one big chance to escape poverty.

The people in the Obama administration who are pushing this counterproductive policy are not stupid. They are political, which is worse. They know what they are doing and they are willing to sacrifice young blacks to do it.

This punishment issue made me think back to the 8th grade, when I was punished by being kept after school, more often than any other kid in the class -- black, white, Hispanic or whatever. I was bored in school and did various pranks to liven things up.

One day, after school, as I sat alone among the empty chairs in the classroom, the teacher said, sarcastically: "Well, here we are again, Sowell, just the two of us!"

"Good grief, Miss Sharoff," I said. "If we keep staying in after school together all the time, people will begin to talk."

"We will just have to live with the scandal," she said, without even looking up from the papers she was correcting.

Thank heaven there was no Obama administration to exempt me from punishment. Who knows how I might have ended up?

Years ago, there was a study of a working class community where there were black, Hispanic and Italian kids, and where many of the cops were Italian. When a black or Hispanic kid broke the law, the police took him down to the station and booked him. But, if an Italian kid did the same thing, they reacted differently.

The Italian cop would take the Italian kid out into an alley and rough him up. Then he would take him home to his family, tell them what had happened and leave him there -- where the kid could expect another beating, instead of the wrist-slap punishment of the law. Those cops understood the realities of life that politicians ignore. And they were doing a favor to their own.

Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305. His website is www.tsowell.com. To find out more about Thomas Sowell and read features by other Creators Syndicate columnists and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.

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**First of all f-k you...you're not qualified to validate schit I say

Second of all, charter schools often take away funding from public schools....everyone does not have the resources to travel and commute to those schools...make the funding from them separate and apart and not further drain the public schools....which are pieces of schit already in many places....

Third, you and the right don't give a f-k about blacks or Mexicans, so save that zero-sum bullshit where someone gains, so someone has to lose....don't try to pit blacks against hispanics to do your will, so then you can go back to not giving a f-k about blacks, unless you can find them to be useful.

Fourth, I am educated to the top 1% of Americans and that is by design....so Hispanics gaining something is not going to take schit from me...hell, I use technical terminology sometimes for which spanish words do not even exist....Hispanics are where blacks were in the 60's...more power to them...plus, they'll probably aid me politically....

So the solution is let some kids get away with bad behavior until enough kids of a different race do bad things?

Most of this is crap as it does not take into account the behavior of the individuals. Witnesses, including cameras, are 7 times more likely to identify a violent criminal as black vs white and yet, America has 4 time as many white as blacks. So to "eliminate racism" apparently we need to ignore 27 out of 28 crimes committed by black people?

BTW, when studies show crimes based on marital status of parents are figured in, the disparity all but vanishes. It is the lack of males providing good role models in black communities that account for much of the "racial" disparity.

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Fortunately quite a few voters are changing their minds about the wisdom of pursuing the punishment of people whose choice in recreational drugs (marijuana) may be different than their own (alcohol).

Like with authorizing gay marriage, the dominoes are falling.

This past election, voters in Oregon and Alaska approved the legalization of recreational weed. They joined Colorado and Washington State.

Next up? The big enchilada---California.

This ain't your grandpappy's America. Get used to it.

So the solution is let some kids get away with bad behavior until enough kids of a different race do bad things?

Most of this is crap as it does not take into account the behavior of the individuals. Witnesses, including cameras, are 7 times more likely to identify a violent criminal as black vs white and yet, America has 4 time as many white as blacks. So to "eliminate racism" apparently we need to ignore 27 out of 28 crimes committed by black people?

BTW, when studies show crimes based on marital status of parents are figured in, the disparity all but vanishes. It is the lack of males providing good role models in black communities that account for much of the "racial" disparity.

**No the solution is to be equitable with punishment across the board...not that stupid schit....and do the research on crime and school discipline and learn about the disparity in punishment as opposed to occurrence.



Do Blacks Really Commit the Most Crimes?

“What demographic commits the most crime?” asked my professor.

White people, I thought. I knew the answer, but I was hesitant to speak. I usually am in my political theory classes, choosing instead to absorb the discussion. I also assumed it was such a simple question that I wouldn’t need to answer it aloud because someone else would.

And soon after, a hand to my right rose.

“Blacks,” he said. And he sounded so sure.

I was almost sad for the kid, but you probably wouldn’t know it from how hard I was laughing at him. I didn’t mean to; it was how sure he was that tickled me.

Poor kid, I remember thinking because I understood that his answer was not from left field. It was a truth that he’d been taught, whether from the media, his upbringing, or any number of sources where minorities are painted as violent people.

He would be shocked to know that white people commit the most crimes. And to be perfectly honest it’s a trick question that I wouldn’t ask anyone. There are so many small factors that play a role in the correct answer.

But here’s the rundown:

White people commit the most crimes when you look at sheer numbers.

According to the FBI, in 2011, white people committed about 6.58 million crimes; blacks committed 2.7 million. It’s important to understand that these numbers include all forms of crimes, including violent and non-violent, such as property. It’s also important to note that these are crimes that law enforcement is aware of. Issues with this will be talked about in future posts.


Data from the FBI

So, blacks commit about 4 million crimes less. But then why are we seen as violent? Here’s where we get into the importance of understanding crime rates and the word: “disproportionality.”

White people make up about 80% of the American population, according to the United States Census. And black people account for about 13%. Yet, according to the same FBI table, blacks committed 28.4% of the crimes and whites 69.2%. Thus, our contribution to the “crime pie” is larger than our slice of the population pie- actually more than double.


This data does not include Hispanic/Latino crime

Latino/Hispanic population not included to stay relevant with FBI data

To be painfully clear for those who may not understand statistics (but if you do, feel free to skip this), this doesn’t mean each black person is committing two crimes each. It means that the pool for crimes is much smaller than the pool for our population. And so when one person commits a crime they account for a small number in the population, but a bigger number contributing to the crime statistic.

If this still doesn’t make sense, try multiplying our population by a fraction that will equal 1. Then do the same for the crime population. You will see you need a much larger fraction to make it equal 1. Think of the increase in that fraction as the increase in size for that aforementioned pie slice. With the population, it was smaller so the slice was.

Because black people account for more of the crime statistic than we do the population, we contribute a “disproportionate” amount, meaning our pie slices are uneven. Conversely, white rates are a little more even. 80% of the population, versus a little more than 69% of crime.

It’s a very common misconception that black people commit more crimes. So common in fact, that many minorities actually believe it as well. As of now the FBI doesn’t include Hispanics/Latinos in data tables, but does intend to. I can’t wait to see if these rates, in addition to black crime rates, will be higher than whites.

So, What do you guys think? Want to place some bets now to see if it will be or won’t be? Or share you own stories about misconceptions on the black crime rate.

*These numbers are estimates done using numbers from the 2010 Census. I looked at the rate and multiplied it by the overall population to come to these numbers.