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Apr 5, 2014 18:21:55   #
EconomistDon
 
Zemirah wrote:

The crusades have been much misinterpreted. They were initially wars of defense against Islam after three hundred years of invasions and attacks against Christian pilgrims who attempted to visit their Holy sites.

I agree we should pray for the millions trapped within Islam, for they are in total darkness.


Excellent point Zemirah. I cringe when I hear someone blame Islam's hatred on treatment inflicted on them by Europeans, especially in the Crusades. These are people who failed history in high school. And Muslims are no better aware of history. The beginning of Islam was 622 A.D. when Mohammed consolidated his 10,000 followers in Medina. They spent the next ten years destroying pagan idols and places of worship throughout western Arabia. After Mohammed died, Muslims rose up out of Arabia to invade Mesopotamia. The did not want to conquer and subjugate; rather they killed or drove out the existing population. This mayhem continued into Israel and Syria. So, when the crusades came, the Muslims deserved any nasty treatment that they got. And, fast forward to today -- when they say that the Jews don't belong in Israel, I say hold on. The Israelites were important trading partners with Egypt back to 1000 B.C. That gives them squatters rights over any Muslims who claim rights to the land.

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Apr 5, 2014 22:55:20   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Altough the idea of Islam is not within our Christian beliefs We will not be martyrd and it won't be us against them. Just because we are in wars in Muslim countrys I don't take it as a "sign"
cant beleve wrote:
Beautifully put. But as my friend Walid Shoebot has said. It will one day be us and them. We must one day soon be ready to become martyrs for Christ.

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Apr 5, 2014 23:30:52   #
docwill
 
It speaks not well for our media, politicians, entertainment and education industries that this thread, so clear and so concise, easily corrects politically contrived misinformation and puts Islam into proper historic perspective...

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Apr 5, 2014 23:30:53   #
docwill
 
It speaks not well for our media, politicians, entertainment and education industries that this thread, so clear and so concise, easily corrects politically contrived misinformation and puts Islam into proper historic perspective...

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Apr 6, 2014 04:09:36   #
Iggy Rat Loc: Lost in America
 
bobgssc wrote:
Not to hijack the thread, but when people start complaining about medical marijuana as a viable medicine because of its "propensity for abuse", I always mention that "religion" (and yes, I'm a conservative Christian), is by far the most abused substance in the history of mankind. Probably second only to fast food in this generation.


Too true!!

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Apr 6, 2014 06:34:58   #
skopii
 
Iggy Rat wrote:
As a conservative Christian (go ahead Brian), I have very little use for Islam. I have read the Quran through twice. Still studying it and other religious texts regularly. Despite the bloodthirsty nature of their "prophet", I suspect that the actual truth lies closer to human nature as opposed to divine nature.

Humanity perverts EVERYTHING! The actions and attitudes presented by radical Islam are similar to the corruption and insanity presented by virtually EVERY organized religion which has achieved political authority. Jesus warned us about this.

If the faith that HE left us ("Love one another." remember that? can be so twisted as to bring about the Spanish Inquisition and the Crusades, how difficult would it be for people raised under the shadow of Mohammed to even comprehend love?

It doesn't change anything, and I don't offer any solutions. Pity the Muslims. Pray for them. Share the Gospels. But don't trust them. A war is coming.
As a conservative Christian (go ahead Brian), I ha... (show quote)


"If you show mercy to the cruel, the cruel shall then become merciless" (Solon?) "Vote Incumbents OUT!" Thank you.

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Apr 6, 2014 06:39:56   #
Iggy Rat Loc: Lost in America
 
Zemirah wrote:
God's word is truth, Marjorie.

Presenting Bibles to the Muslims at the mosque might produce more fruit than a pig, although I can understand the temptation.

The sad truth is if the old church was still being used by a congregation of Christians, it wouldn't have been for sale.

-besides, it would be a terrible waste of some good pork.


That's it, Z!! You're officially on my "Top Ten Favorite People" list!

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Apr 6, 2014 15:02:31   #
docwill
 
skopii wrote:
"If you show mercy to the cruel, the cruel shall then become merciless" (Solon?) "Vote Incumbents OUT!" Thank you.


Not sure how but I don't think, "...turn the other cheek," means, "...be a doormat." Gonna have to stand-up to Islam sooner or later; "coexist" is not part of their precepts...

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Apr 6, 2014 19:03:29   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
EconomistDon wrote:
Excellent point Zemirah. I cringe when I hear someone blame Islam's hatred on treatment inflicted on them by Europeans, especially in the Crusades. These are people who failed history in high school. And Muslims are no better aware of history. The beginning of Islam was 622 A.D. when Mohammed consolidated his 10,000 followers in Medina. They spent the next ten years destroying pagan idols and places of worship throughout western Arabia. After Mohammed died, Muslims rose up out of Arabia to invade Mesopotamia. The did not want to conquer and subjugate; rather they killed or drove out the existing population. This mayhem continued into Israel and Syria. So, when the crusades came, the Muslims deserved any nasty treatment that they got. And, fast forward to today -- when they say that the Jews don't belong in Israel, I say hold on. The Israelites were important trading partners with Egypt back to 1000 B.C. That gives them squatters rights over any Muslims who claim rights to the land.
Excellent point Zemirah. I cringe when I hear som... (show quote)

And the Muslims bow down to a meteor rock the Kabbah...which a Muslim must do the haj to in their lifetime.A pagan ritual if ever there was one... they also believe one day this rock will one day speak.... I believe it will. SCARY DAY

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Apr 7, 2014 04:05:11   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
cant beleve wrote:
Beautifully put. But as my friend Walid Shoebot has said. It will one day be us and them. We must one day soon be ready to become martyrs for Christ.


It's becoming increasingly easy to believe that day may well come, even to those of us residing in apparent ease and safety.

We are certainly no better than the twelve disciples, who all died martyrs, with the exception of John, who was preserved to an old age to write the book of Revelation -

("The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show to His bond-servants, the things which must soon take place; and He sent and communicated {it} by His angel to His bond-servant John," Revelation 1:1).

Nor are we any better than the Christians of the first century who were thrown to lions.

In many of our own lifetimes, we have seen our beloved America legalize the murder of our unborn in 1973; the count is now over fifty five million (55,000,000) slaughtered, and rising daily.

Is our country ripe for judgment? Certainly, if not now, soon.

All who are believers in Jesus Christ have been promised the faith to stand, if and when, need be.

Quote:
Romans 14:4 ... To his own master he stands or falls; and he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

Romans 14:8 for if we live, we live for the Lord, or if we die, we die for the Lord; therefore whether we live or die, we are the Lord's.

Jude 1:24 ¶ Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory blameless with great joy,


Since all must physically die, (although not spiritually) to die for "the truth" trumps dying for nothing at all.

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Oct 14, 2014 04:58:11   #
Darla Loc: Hobbs, New Mexico
 
http://dcgazette.com/islam-the-religion-of-rumors-lies-and-sex-crimes-part-1/

I found this article from the DC Gazette, it has some facts that are truth. However, there are some questionable details. Can anyone help me verify or debunk these details? We know that Muhammad was an illiterate, psychopathic pedophile, and suffered from epileptic seizures. We know that his father died shortly after he was born and his mother died before he was five, leaving Muhammad to be raised by his uncle. We know Muhammad learned the skills of a caravan merchant and married a wealthy widow and took over her deceased husband's caravan business. We know after his wife died, he married a six year old and consummated the marriage when she was nine yrs old. We know that during his epileptic "episodes" his friends, followers, would scribble down what he muttered.

Now here is where there article becomes questionable. These are the statements I would appreciate any validation on. The article says his mutterings were written on whatever was handy at the time, leaves, rocks, scraps. The article also states that his child bride's maidservant poisoned Muhammad, dug a hole and buried him covering the grave with rocks and bricks. The article then goes on to say that the child bride then searched for all of the supposed scribblings only to find that most of the writings had been eaten by a goat. I appreciate any help with this issue.

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Oct 14, 2014 06:35:15   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
I never heard of any of this. sounds pretty bad though.
Darla wrote:
http://dcgazette.com/islam-the-religion-of-rumors-lies-and-sex-crimes-part-1/

I found this article from the DC Gazette, it has some facts that are truth. However, there are some questionable details. Can anyone help me verify or debunk these details? We know that Muhammad was an illiterate, psychopathic pedophile, and suffered from epileptic seizures. We know that his father died shortly after he was born and his mother died before he was five, leaving Muhammad to be raised by his uncle. We know Muhammad learned the skills of a caravan merchant and married a wealthy widow and took over her deceased husband's caravan business. We know after his wife died, he married a six year old and consummated the marriage when she was nine yrs old. We know that during his epileptic "episodes" his friends, followers, would scribble down what he muttered.

Now here is where there article becomes questionable. These are the statements I would appreciate any validation on. The article says his mutterings were written on whatever was handy at the time, leaves, rocks, scraps. The article also states that his child bride's maidservant poisoned Muhammad, dug a hole and buried him covering the grave with rocks and bricks. The article then goes on to say that the child bride then searched for all of the supposed scribblings only to find that most of the writings had been eaten by a goat. I appreciate any help with this issue.
http://dcgazette.com/islam-the-religion-of-rumors-... (show quote)

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