Viet Nam Vet 67-68

3Jack my rates went up my other family members who own businesses laid off some people for higher rates so what business do you have telling people that rates are not higher. Plus my deductable is much higher and I can't afford my old policy under the obamination Death Care Bill.

Lil Willie Loc: Zero Beach Floridian

Seems that cost is the biggest complaint against ACA and not giving any choice on coverages. Choosing our healthcare providers for us, to me, is a violation of our freedoms. The great pretender does lie more offen than he tells the truth. Quote " You can keep your plan if you like it. AND You can keep your doctor if you want to". Those statements cannot be refuted. Further he admitted he erred when he made those statements. I guess the teleprompters had a sudden glitch.

True cost is determine by computing the differences between lop plan's and ACA premiums. The differences between the two plan's deductibles. Simply add the two differences together to determine real cost.

I believe the ACA plan's will cost substantially more. Who is hurt the most? Why it is the so-called middle class who contribute the most to support ACA. The middle class get shafted again.

Due to the many cases of the current administration does't care about those pay the bulk of revenues to the Federal government. Frankly, I am ready for a real change in Washington!!!!
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3jack

Your rates have been going up each year for the past 25 years. Your business owning family members should have ceased operations by now if their employee numbers and business practices are based on health insurance premiums. Why is it that those yearly increases haven't been noticed or bitched about until the ACA was enacted? BTW, if your rates increase, don't blame the ACA, blame your still greedy insurance company.

Viet Nam Vet 67-68

jack3 your not even comprehending what even your eyes see and hear about Obamination Death Care. So I will not bother typing any info to you, your an idiot puppet for obamination.

greyfox Loc: western mass.

Those were small increases not the large increases and deductables of Obamacare!!!!

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

So has a loaf of bread but it has gone up slowly, deductibles with ObamaCare doubled and tripled over night plus the fact people picker and chose what they could afford, ObamaCare isn't even close, it's take it with things you may no need or want.

3jack

You have no idea what you're talking about. All you're doing is repeating lies told to you by people with ulterior motives. Nothing in the ACA forces anyone to purchase coverage they don't want or need. This is basic information about the different levels of insurance under the ACA. They have different premiums, different coverage, and different deductibles. One size doesn't fit all. Know what you're talking about and you won't sound stupid when you post

"There are four types of health insurance plans available through ObamaCare's marketplace they are Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum health insurance plans. These Qualified Health Plans represent four tiers of coverage and are sometimes referred to as "metal plans" due to their quality corresponding to the value of their metal types. In other words a "Gold" plan is better than a "Bronze" health insurance plan. Aside from the 4 basic plan types people under 30 and people with hardship exemptions can buy a "catastrophic" health plan through the marketplace. Catastrophic health plans have a low premium but very high out-of-pocket costs."

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

I have just as much idea as you do. Both children plus several of their friends have been hit by ObamaCareBS. All had good insurance through their work only to have those policies cancelled because they don't cover birth control, birth control, we line by line comparing what they had vs what their forced to carry, so your full of shit!

No shit, one size doesn't fit all and neither do ten plans cover everyone's needs but according to you liberal assholes that's close enough.

You talk about knowing yet you push the democratic talking points, go screw yourself.

Viet Nam Vet 67-68

3Jack, if you think that mandated Abortion and pre existing conditions and a Minimum $2000 deductible doesn't raise rate's you are a fool.

3jack

You can go line by line or paragraph by paragraph and you will not find any document that forces a person to carry insurance that they don't want. Also, if a company doesn't provide birth control for employees, blame the ignorant Supreme Court and the company. In other words, you're a typical right wing lying sack of shit that don't know what the hell he/she/it is talking about. You're making up shit and posting it as facts.....get a life.

Viet Nam Vet 67-68

3Jack now you say go without insurance when the whole concept according to your hero Obamination who promised if you want your doctor and Health care you now have you can keep it. The fact is that obamination death care was to put everyone in Socialized Medicine including the 22 million uninsured but now that its only at 45% installed we now have 46 Million uninsured and the costs have quadrupled and its not fully installed yet, there are still taxes to incur after the election plus 20,000 pages of new regulations and Laws. You the FKING idiotm sack of shit.

3jack

Socialized medicine?
From 22 to 46 million uninsured?
Cost has quadrupled?
20,000 pages of new regs and laws?

This is more BS than even I can decipher. Help me out here....let's see the links to your information.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

On line is not the real world. All of these people I referring to do not need birth control but two require special medical care, they had this coverage before ObamaCare, now it's an add on, one at $2400 a year and the other at $1800, that's out of pocket extra.

5 out of 12 were democrats and voted democrat all the way, not one feels that way now. They feel betrayed and left out to hang. By the current polls I'd say a lot of folks feel that way right now.

3jack

The right wing world of fantasy and lies about how the ACA has worsened their lives is not the real world either.

Special medical coverage is not an add-on to medical insurance as you claim. The issue you described is considered a pre-existing condition. Insurance companies are required to provide insurance to individuals with pre-existing conditions and they are prohibited from charging more for that coverage.

bmac32 Loc: West Florida

Get it threw your thick head each treatment was $100 co-pay, that's once a week but as of Jan 1 it will be $250 a treatment. It was never a pre anything, it came out of nowhere. His doctors cut is zero but equipment went up. He's been doing this for three years and costs have remained steady.

You can argue your leftwing talking points all day, I've seen the bills you have not.