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Sep 18, 2014 10:41:42   #
popparod Loc: Somewhere else.
 
My VA card that says I am a 100 percent service connected disabled veteran qualifies me as a card crying American. It's smart mouths like you that will eventually get your eggs scrambled due to your own mouth someday. I pray that The Lord will open your eyes and enlighten your heart before that happens. God bless you and have a nice day.

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Sep 18, 2014 13:11:11   #
She Wolf Loc: Currently Georgia
 
thor wrote:
As a card carrying American I say no to putting troops on the ground in Iraq and Syria.Not unless you go in to totally destroy them with whatever means are needed.There is no such thing as a partial war.There are no clean wars. Wars are a nasty business and you must be more ruthless than the enemy.If you go in half assed thinking that a few bombs will stop them go back to baking cookies.I've lived through the war in Vietnam and saw that over 58,000 young lives were lost for nothing because the politicians thought they could win a limited sterile war.To some Countries war is a way of life like in Iraq.It is sad but true.Some will say that we have to go in to save the innocents.AT WHAT COST.The Mideast is a brutal place to live.We have lost enough lives over there and should we send more even though we can stem the flow of fighting it will not last.Putting more troops over there is like putting a bandaid on a dying man.The only way to keep the peace in Iraq and Syria is to make them a State. Even then I have my doubts.__________Have a good day
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I totally agree with you. In Iraq and Syria, tribal wars have gone on for centuries. It is yet another war we can not win. No more blood for money.

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Sep 18, 2014 17:52:24   #
9th Marines
 
rjoeholl wrote:
Brian, I still have my DRAFT card. Will that do?


I have my DD214, but it is nearly 60 years old.

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Sep 18, 2014 18:09:15   #
9th Marines
 
thor wrote:
As a card carrying American I say no to putting troops on the ground in Iraq and Syria.Not unless you go in to totally destroy them with whatever means are needed.There is no such thing as a partial war.There are no clean wars. Wars are a nasty business and you must be more ruthless than the enemy.If you go in half assed thinking that a few bombs will stop them go back to baking cookies.I've lived through the war in Vietnam and saw that over 58,000 young lives were lost for nothing because the politicians thought they could win a limited sterile war.To some Countries war is a way of life like in Iraq.It is sad but true.Some will say that we have to go in to save the innocents.AT WHAT COST.The Mideast is a brutal place to live.We have lost enough lives over there and should we send more even though we can stem the flow of fighting it will not last.Putting more troops over there is like putting a bandaid on a dying man.The only way to keep the peace in Iraq and Syria is to make them a State. Even then I have my doubts.__________Have a good day
As a card carrying American I say no to putting tr... (show quote)


I voted for Obama twice and make no apologizes for that. But the situation in the Middle East, as now constituted, is not winnable. In general, these are a fractious people for whom contention and violence has bee a way of life for thousands of years. Read the Old Testament. But then our European ancestors were no less peace loving--at least those with power. Obama talks of "degrading" ISIL. The only way to deal with a virus is to totally destroy it. If not totally destroyed it will mutate and continue spreading. Already we read of ISIL adjusting (mutating) in response to U.S. bombing. And even if every last ISIL member is killed another movement (virus) will emerge. Until the nations of the Middle East deal with tribalism, corruption, and the plethora of vagaries endemic to The Islamic culture it will continue to be more of the same ad infinitum.

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Sep 18, 2014 19:36:08   #
CDM Loc: Florida
 
thor wrote:
As a card carrying American I say no to putting troops on the ground in Iraq and Syria.Not unless you go in to totally destroy them with whatever means are needed.There is no such thing as a partial war.There are no clean wars. Wars are a nasty business and you must be more ruthless than the enemy.If you go in half assed thinking that a few bombs will stop them go back to baking cookies.I've lived through the war in Vietnam and saw that over 58,000 young lives were lost for nothing because the politicians thought they could win a limited sterile war.To some Countries war is a way of life like in Iraq.It is sad but true.Some will say that we have to go in to save the innocents.AT WHAT COST.The Mideast is a brutal place to live.We have lost enough lives over there and should we send more even though we can stem the flow of fighting it will not last.Putting more troops over there is like putting a bandaid on a dying man.The only way to keep the peace in Iraq and Syria is to make them a State. Even then I have my doubts.__________Have a good day
As a card carrying American I say no to putting tr... (show quote)



Thor; your comment is lucid and accurate. We have enough history to teach us that playing at war does not work. Body count is meaningless.

I agree that we should not put one more American in harms way for these people. I fear though that this will escalate as soon as elections have passed. Again, history has shown how it works. The tar baby always wins.

By the way, as you see your choice of the words 'card carrying' brought out the element here who lay in wait to pounce on any expression of patriotism. They interpret what you said as you are more American than they are. While the rational people here know what you meant, I say, well sir, you are.

Being a citizen of the United States and being an American are unfortunately today, not synonymous.

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