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May 1, 2024 12:50:08   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
NotMAGA wrote:
I hate the killing of people who have done nothing but live. So do most normal people in the world.


These people were chearing when hamas was slaughtering innocent Israelis...

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May 1, 2024 13:57:45   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Justice101 wrote:
Is that what makes YOU "normal"- to hate the killing but not the killers?

Most normal people hate killers.
Remind me again who they are, plz.

"As of April 5, the Gaza Health Ministry reported that at least 33,091 people had been killed in Gaza. According to the Israeli government, about 1,200 Israelis were killed during the Oct. 7 attacks."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2024/gaza-numbers-killed-displaced-scale/

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May 1, 2024 13:58:19   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
proud republican wrote:
These people were chearing when hamas was slaughtering innocent Israelis...


Which people?

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May 1, 2024 13:59:45   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Which people?


Palestinians

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May 1, 2024 14:01:27   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
proud republican wrote:
These people were chearing when hamas was slaughtering innocent Israelis...

...because for years Israelis have been using high powered weapons to kill people who were protesting or fighting for their land mostly by throwing stones and rocks.

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May 1, 2024 14:05:14   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
NotMAGA wrote:
...because for years Israelis have been using high powered weapons to kill people who were protesting or fighting for their land mostly by throwing stones and rocks.


Seriously?? You think throwing rocks and stones at Israelis is ok??... Besides, what happened on October 7th have nothing to do with that...There was ceasefire on October 6th, until hamas attacked innocent people..

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May 1, 2024 14:12:31   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
proud republican wrote:
Palestinians


I see. So what you're saying is that the Palestinians, men, women, children and babies, deserve death because they cheered the deaths of Israelis who for years have been responding to Palestinian protests and small attacks with airstrikes, killing so many civilians that they more than once have been charged with war crimes.

From someone who works in a museum, I implore you to do some research about the long conflict there. History can be an eye opener. Believe me.

https://www.vox.com/world-politics/23921529/israel-palestine-timeline-gaza-hamas-war-conflict

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May 1, 2024 14:14:35   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
proud republican wrote:
Seriously?? You think throwing rocks and stones at Israelis is ok??... Besides, what happened on October 7th have nothing to do with that...There was ceasefire on October 6th, until hamas attacked innocent people..


I think many more Palestinians civilians were killed by Israeli missiles over the years than Israelis killed with rocks.
And think about it - Hamas was probably allowed to attack.

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May 1, 2024 14:23:02   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
NotMAGA wrote:
I think many more Palestinians civilians were killed by Israeli missiles over the years than Israelis killed with rocks.
And think about it - Hamas was probably allowed to attack.


So for you it's OK that hamas attacked Israelis, because Israelus were defending themselves from Palestinian terrorists.. The only palestinians I feel sorry for are babies and little children.. The rest of them NO!

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May 1, 2024 14:46:31   #
Justice101
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Most normal people hate killers.
Remind me again who they are, plz.

"As of April 5, the Gaza Health Ministry reported that at least 33,091 people had been killed in Gaza. According to the Israeli government, about 1,200 Israelis were killed during the Oct. 7 attacks."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2024/gaza-numbers-killed-displaced-scale/



Hamas are the ones who started the war.
Israel has a right to defend themselves.
The Hamas terrorists use their own citizens as human shields and set up rocket launchers around hospitals and schools.
The Hamas terrorists are barbarians who committed war crimes on October 7.
https://www.cfr.org/article/what-international-law-has-say-about-israel-hamas-war

The Palestinian health Ministry have a record of inflating the number of Palestinian death toll.
https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-11-06-23/h_b8550596b4a77a1f849238f4008dbee1

The Hamas terrorists have no respect for human life and martyr those fighters who are killed.

The Israelis value human life as evidence of their first hostage exchange-40 hostages for 117 Palestinian prisoners.
https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-11-27-23/h_0dcb8993b14feee0fa7c428aa468a19c

The IDF warned the people of Gaza in advance to their ground war.
IDF flyers warn Palestinians in Gaza to evacuate south or possibly be considered “a partner for the terrorist organization”
https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-21-23/h_f0fbb59578c2e92529b936d96a9039d2

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May 1, 2024 14:49:31   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
proud republican wrote:
So for you it's OK that hamas attacked Israelis, because Israelus were defending themselves from Palestinian terrorists.. The only palestinians I feel sorry for are babies and little children.. The rest of them NO!


Well good, I'm happy for that. But you feel sorry for the only ones who are probably guaranteed passage direct to Heaven. God would like ALL people to turn to Him. Those people Israel has killed will never have that chance.

You deliberately mistrue what I write. I said.
1- Conflict between Israel and the Palestinians has been ongoing for over a hundred years, and the US's meddling has not always been helpful.
A) Palestinians fought with rocks
B) Israelis, in later years especially, often responded with missiles and airstrikes.
1) Because the IDF used missiles and airstrikes against the Palestinians, so many deaths occurred that the UN charged Israel with war crimes.
2)Because Israel killed so many Palestinians, Hamas eventually won control in Gaza, probably because the Palestinians thought they would better protect them from Israel.

2. The Oct 7 attack should
A) never have happened in the first place, but
B) it was very likely allowed to happen to:
1) allow the PM to stay in power and not go through another no confidence vote.
2) Give Netanyahu carte blanche - he thought - to finally decimate the Palestinians and get them out if the Gaza strip once and for all.

3. - As a response to Oct 7, the Israeli response has been a failure in the world stage. It has gone WAY above and beyond where it should have. More than 30 times the number of Palestinians have been killed compared to those killed by Hamas in Israel on Oct. 7.
A) because it went way too far, Israel will again be charged with war crimes.
B) because it went way too far and young people here are seeing the starving and dead babies and children and women, our college campuses are becoming inflamed to the point of physical fighting.


There are answers for all of the problems, but I suspect they will never be implemented.

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May 1, 2024 15:02:19   #
Justice101
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Well good, I'm happy for that. But you feel sorry for the only ones who are probably guaranteed passage direct to Heaven. God would like ALL people to turn to Him. Those people Israel has killed will never have that chance.

You deliberately mistrue what I write. I said.
1- Conflict between Israel and the Palestinians has been ongoing for over a hundred years, and the US's meddling has not always been helpful.
A) Palestinians fought with rocks
B) Israelis, in later years especially, often responded with missiles and airstrikes.
1) Because the IDF used missiles and airstrikes against the Palestinians, so many deaths occurred that the UN charged Israel with war crimes.
2)Because Israel killed so many Palestinians, Hamas eventually won control in Gaza, probably because the Palestinians thought they would better protect them from Israel.

2. The Oct 7 attack should
A) never have happened in the first place, but
B) it was very likely allowed to happen to:
1) allow the PM to stay in power and not go through another no confidence vote.
2) Give Netanyahu carte blanche - he thought - to finally decimate the Palestinians and get them out if the Gaza strip once and for all.

3. - As a response to Oct 7, the Israeli response has been a failure in the world stage. It has gone WAY above and beyond where it should have. More than 30 times the number of Palestinians have been killed compared to those killed by Hamas in Israel on Oct. 7.
A) because it went way too far, Israel will again be charged with war crimes.
B) because it went way too far and young people here are seeing the starving and dead babies and children and women, our college campuses are becoming inflamed to the point of physical fighting.


There are answers for all of the problems, but I suspect they will never be implemented.
Well good, I'm happy for that. But you feel sorry ... (show quote)


It is evident that you were reading the Palestinian's view of past history-"throwing rocks at the Israelis".

Hamas and Israel: a history of confrontation
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-israel-history-confrontation-2021-05-14/

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May 1, 2024 15:18:44   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Justice101 wrote:
It is evident that you were reading the Palestinian's view of past history-"throwing rocks at the Israelis".

Hamas and Israel: a history of confrontation
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/hamas-israel-history-confrontation-2021-05-14/


I remember watching the news reports on TV in the late 90s & early 2000's. It's exactly what was happening. Rocks from Palestinians - often just kids - with Israel either shooting them or sending an air strike to "quell the unrest"
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May 1, 2024 15:31:24   #
Justice101
 
NotMAGA wrote:
I remember watching the news reports on TV in the late 90s & early 2000's. It's exactly what was happening. Rocks from Palestinians - often just kids - with Israel either shooting them or sending an air strike to "quell the unrest"
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This is what I remember during the time period which you are referencing.
1993 - 2005: PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY
For a time, promising peace talks between Israeli and Palestinian leaders made the future of Gaza look somewhat hopeful.

Following the Oslo accords — a set of agreements between Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Palestinian Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat that laid the groundwork for a two-state solution — control of Gaza was handed to the fledgling Palestinian Authority.

But the optimism was short lived. A series of Palestinian suicide attacks by Hamas militants, the 1995 assassination of Rabin by a Jewish ultranationalist opposed to his peacemaking and the election of Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister the following year all hindered U.S.-led peace efforts. Another peace push collapsed in late 2000 with the eruption of the second Palestinian uprising.

As the uprising fizzled in 2005, then-Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon led a unilateral withdrawal from Gaza, uprooting all of Israel’s troops and roughly 9,000 settlers in a move that bitterly divided Israel.

https://apnews.com/article/gaza-history-israel-palestinians-hamas-egypt-688d202c53c0cc72bf2242dccb47fcd5

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May 1, 2024 15:33:26   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Justice101 wrote:
This is what I remember during the time period which you are referencing.
1993 - 2005: PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY
For a time, promising peace talks between Israeli and Palestinian leaders made the future of Gaza look somewhat hopeful.

Following the Oslo accords — a set of agreements between Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin and Palestinian Liberation Organization leader Yasser Arafat that laid the groundwork for a two-state solution — control of Gaza was handed to the fledgling Palestinian Authority.

But the optimism was short lived. A series of Palestinian suicide attacks by Hamas militants, the 1995 assassination of Rabin by a Jewish ultranationalist opposed to his peacemaking and the election of Benjamin Netanyahu as prime minister the following year all hindered U.S.-led peace efforts. Another peace push collapsed in late 2000 with the eruption of the second Palestinian uprising.

As the uprising fizzled in 2005, then-Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon led a unilateral withdrawal from Gaza, uprooting all of Israel’s troops and roughly 9,000 settlers in a move that bitterly divided Israel.

https://apnews.com/article/gaza-history-israel-palestinians-hamas-egypt-688d202c53c0cc72bf2242dccb47fcd5
This is what I remember during the time period whi... (show quote)



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