padremike wrote:
The Arab world wants Hamas destroyed.
Well, I'm not sure what you are calling the "Arab world"...
If you are referring to the secular governments of the Arab nations then what they want to see is a diplomatic solution which is not what Hamas has in mind. Most of these governments are open to a two-state solution as are many Palestinians. The ONLY governments that do NOT want a two-state solution is Israel and the theocracies in Iran and Yemen and that's because they are all part of the core problem. Religion.
Everything involving the conflict in the Middle-East boils down to just two opposing forces... both of them driven by their religious convictions. There is the Islamic Resistance, guided by the Koran that says no Muslim shall be ruled by a foreign king and there are the Zionists from Europe (so therefore foreign) that just wanted to grab land and so they used their own scripture to justify it by claiming that God gave them the title deed.
padremike wrote:
The Arab world wants nothing to do with the unruly Palestinians because they create trouble whenever they go.
LOL - you and Big Kahuna must be watching the same brainwashing channel... You're both making the same arguments. As I told Kahuna, it's not the Palestinians themselves creating the trouble, it's the fact that they are targets for Israeli attacks. Countries like Egypt don't want to draw fire from Israel just because they let a few Palestinians in.
padremike wrote:
The Arab world wants a two-state solution. How can Israel live in peace next to a population of radical Muslims that wants to kill all of them?
Easy. Stop abusing people!
Jews and Muslims got along fine before the blood-thirsty Zionists came down from Europe. Since then, Israel has been guilty of the longest-standing and most abusive oppression of a population ever seen in modern times. And this is what motivates the resistance.
If Israel can just chill the fu.k out, things would be a LOT better. There will of course, still be a few hardcore haters and religious fanatics obsessed with destroying Israel but they will lose popular support. The Palestinians didn't vote for Hamas because they want to kill everyone in Israel, they voted for them because they thought Hamas could help them escape Israeli oppression.
padremike wrote:
How many thousands of rockets has Hamas sent indiscriminately into Israel with the sole intention of killing Jewish civilians.
Too many. But it's still 100% the fault of Israel for giving them a reason to do it.
If America was occupied by a wave of immigrants claiming rights to our land, forcing our families out of our homes, controlling when and where we can travel, empowering their settlers with the authority to detain us and our families for up to one hour for no reason at all, shooting our children for fun... If every time we try to fight back or resist in any way, they respond by shutting off our water and our electricity and launching airstrikes on our towns and cities. If we knew that while this is going on there are settlers gathered on a hill to watch for entertainment... Then ya know what? I would TOTALLY launch a fu.king rocket!
padremike wrote:
What sort of sub-human terrorist fire these rockets adjacent to schools, hospitals, missions etc., knowing those sites won't be attacked by the IDF?
They ARE attacked by the IDF! The IDF has never hesitated to attack hospitals or schools, they've been doing it for 50 years.
padremike wrote:
What sort of people (Palestinians) allow it? The same type of people that teach their Children to hate Jews.
The Jews also teach their children to hate Arabs, not all of them but many of them, especially among the settlers where it's prevalent. I don't know if you know this but the Zionist settlers are NOT the same as a the typical liberal Jews you find here. First of all, they are not even close to being liberal. Zionism is hard-core right, with more in common with the Nazis than the ACLU.
One of my brother's closest friends is an Israeli expat who served in the IDF. I remember we were both helping his neighbor carry his groceries up. The neighbor was an Arab. He thanked us and as we were walking away my brother's friend was telling me how much he hated the man. I laughed because of the irony of him hating him but helping him. He said "Oh, I'll help him with his groceries. But that doesn't mean I don't want to kill him."
You would never suspect it. Such a nice polite guy, but I know he was being serious. His Israeli parents taught him manners AND hatred.
padremike wrote:
"When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons. Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us."
Golda Meir
A wonderfully poetic example of bigotry and arrogance.
When peace comes I hope everyone can forgive everyone, but I know one thing for sure, Hell is going to have to make a lot more room for the Zionist than anyone else.