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Apr 28, 2024 17:35:17   #
MidnightRider
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***what these four concerns tell us
>>>That you don't know what the hell you are talking about and are as biased as possible for the side leading us towards Communism and trying to take away our Freedom.


Going by polls, of course he's clueless. You are partially right about Communism about taking our FREEDOM, but it still goes further to transhumanists, the lgbtq agenda and warping (often damaging kids for life) etc.

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Apr 28, 2024 17:35:59   #
Justice101
 
[quote=permafrost][quote=Justice101]There's no sane reason why Sleepy Joe should saddle the taxpayer for student loan debt. What Crooked Joe is doing is not above the intelligence level of all Americans. We know what it is and that's called Buying Votes. [/quote


President Biden did not creat nor bypass and laws.. the process of the loan forgiveness he used was on the law books for decades..[/quote]


Biden goes around Congress and the US Constitution. It is a vote buying scheme.

17 states sue Biden over latest student loan bailout plan
https://www.thecollegefix.com/17-states-sue-biden-over-latest-student-loan-bailout-plan/

Supreme Court Uses Nancy Pelosi Words to Overturn Student Loan Cancellation
https://www.newsweek.com/supreme-court-uses-nancy-pelosi-words-overturn-student-loan-cancellation-1808222

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Apr 28, 2024 17:36:09   #
LindaK
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Ovommit, because he was black, got the biggest breaks on not being called on his marxist ideologies, numerous felonies, no vetting,, breaking of Constitutional law, visiting gay bathhouses, supporting sexual perversion, addressing his real birth certificate, giving Iran $$$$ billions in cash to support Hamas, Hezbollah and ISIS,hiding his academic grades, supporting Islamic radicals and being one of the least transparent individuals to inhabit our White House. Ovommit was a race baiter, a community agitator and one of our most devisive presidents ever.
Ovommit, because he was black, got the biggest bre... (show quote)





Because of so many things I believe Obama was not qualified to become our president, including but not limited to, his own African grandmother saying she watch Obama being born in Africa. Plus it would have been so easy for him to produce his birth certificate when the controversy first was brought up. The final reason for me was not Obama’s race, because I originally thought it possible for him being from both black and white people he could have been a leader to unite our nation race wise. But then his actions showed that wasn’t going to be the case, just the opposite.

Oh, back to the last reason for me after reading much info was that Obama, in introducing himself to voters, was a pamphlet he put out which mentioned he was a Kenyan. Plus neither HI hospital initially took credit for him being born in HI. There’s so many other very valid reasons Obama didn’t qualify to be an American president, but that’s old news now. Interested people will need to read it for themselves if interested, plus his support for his Muslim brothers.

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Apr 28, 2024 17:38:22   #
LindaK
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
I believe I read somewhere that both ovommit and Hitlery were running slo Joe's stolen presidency, reported by someone who was able to get inside his admin and actually do some investigative reporting unlike the inept group of left wing journalists who can't investigate the Hunter/slo joe Collusion with China, Iran and Ukraine.


The liberal media could have, just chose not to do so.

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Apr 28, 2024 17:39:08   #
LindaK
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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You've nothing to present for this demented one Joe Biden. So, YOU TWISTED the crimes and dumbness of Joe to Patriot and best president Donald Trump!

Do you have common sense? THINK!
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Apr 28, 2024 17:41:46   #
LindaK
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Ovommit, because he was black, got the biggest breaks on not being called on his marxist ideologies, numerous felonies, no vetting,, breaking of Constitutional law, visiting gay bathhouses, supporting sexual perversion, addressing his real birth certificate, giving Iran $$$$ billions in cash to support Hamas, Hezbollah and ISIS,hiding his academic grades, supporting Islamic radicals and being one of the least transparent individuals to inhabit our White House. Ovommit was a race baiter, a community agitator and one of our most devisive presidents ever.
Ovommit, because he was black, got the biggest bre... (show quote)


Agree. Obama was all that and more. Each time he spoke in front of the UN Assembly I cringed. He was so negative about America.

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Apr 28, 2024 17:42:37   #
LindaK
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Apr 28, 2024 17:43:18   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
permafrost wrote:
Truly confusing to remember which past boss of the USA must be remembered for which act..

for instance... Was it the truth, or just one more of the lie about it and do it anyway stratagy that was used to steal the SS trust fund and run guns to south America.. more and more of the lies by the right wing come home to roost..

ttps://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128303672

A Reagan Legacy: Amnesty For Illegal Immigrants
JULY 4, 20102:12 PM ET
HEARD ON ALL THINGS CONSIDERED

As the nation's attention turns back to the fractured debate over immigration, it might be helpful to remember that in 1986, Ronald Reagan signed a sweeping immigration reform bill into law. It was sold as a crackdown: There would be tighter security at the Mexican border, and employers would face strict penalties for hiring undocumented workers.

But the bill also made any immigrant who'd entered the country before 1982 eligible for amnesty -- a word not usually associated with the father of modern conservatism.

Part of this aversion is due to what is widely seen as the failure of Reagan's 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act. However, one of the lead authors of the bill says that, unlike most immigration reform efforts of the past 20 years, amnesty wasn't the pitfall.

"We used the word 'legalization,' " former Wyoming Sen. Alan K. Simpson tells NPR's Guy Raz. "And everybody fell asleep lightly for a while, and we were able to do legalization."

The law granted amnesty to nearly 3 million illegal immigrants, yet was largely considered unsuccessful because the strict sanctions on employers were stripped out of the bill for passage.
Truly confusing to remember which past boss of the... (show quote)




"for instance... Was it the truth, or just one more of the lie about it and do it anyway strategy that was used to steal the SS trust fund and run guns to South America? More and more of the lies by the right wing come home to roost."

FAST AND FURIOUS SCANDAL SHOULD BE ONE OF THE GREATEST SCANDALS IN AMERICAN HISTORY
Congressman Glenn Grothman (R-Glenbeulah) today criticized the Obama administration’s response to Operation Fast and Furious in a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing focused on what is still not known about the scandal six years later.

Witnesses at the hearing included Josephine Terry and Robert Heyer, mother and cousin of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry who was killed as a result of the operation, U.S. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Special Agent John Dodson.

Excerpts of Grothman’s remarks

“We really haven’t gotten into how this happened in the first place, or what the motive would be for the U.S. government to try to get United States automatic weapons in the hands of Mexican drug cartels.

“It’s very horrible what happened to Bryan Terry. And I would suppose, given the zeal with which they were pursuing this, there were an unknown amount of Mexican individuals who wound up being killed as a result of the actions of the U.S. government. Do you think that’s accurate?

“Has the Obama administration, or anyone connected with that administration, apologized to the Mexican government for trying to get automatic weapons down to the Mexican drug cartels as far as you’re aware?

“Well, someone ought to apologize.

“What would be the motivation to try to get American automatic weapons in the hands of drug cartels? Why did some people in the American government think it was in our interest to make sure the Mexican drug cartels were armed to the teeth?

“Eric Holder was certainly not very helpful. We held him in contempt of Congress. Can you, in general, give us your opinion on the degree to which Eric Holder tried to help this investigation, and the degree to which he tried to stand in the way of finding out what’s really going on here?

“It appears he really didn’t want to get to the bottom of it. He was willing to cover it up.

“Did you see the Obama administration step up and do anything about this?

“It looks like after [Eric Holder] left public service, he was rewarded by working at Covington and Burling, a top-of-the-line, liberal-leaning law firm in Washington. Does that bother you when you see people like Special Agent Dodson – his career stalled because he cares about the people, and cares about the future of this country? But somebody who gets in the way of this investigation is rewarded by the left-leaning establishment here in town by getting a job with a big law firm.

“I just hope this committee and whoever the new committee chairman is does what they can to make sure this is written in the history books. Sometimes, they say the winners write the history books, and sometimes horrific things happen and they disappear and future generations will never know about it.

“To me, the Fast and Furious scandal should be one of the greatest scandals in American history, and I hope this committee does all it
can so that people in the future always know the name of Eric Holder and know how little was done by this administration after they participated, for whatever motivation, in trying to get automatic weapons into the hands of the drug cartel.

“I want to thank you, Mrs. Terry, for showing up. I’d like to thank you Special Agent Dodson. I know you’re not as financially well-off as you would be if you had kept your head down, but I’m sure your reward is greater because you’re on the side of the angels.”
Operation Fast and Furious was a plan implemented by the Obama administration in which guns were sold to Mexican cartels in hopes that the guns would later be tracked to high-ranking cartel members and assist in their capture.

Instead, many of the guns went missing, and several were found at crime scenes on both sides of the Mexican-American border including at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.
The Oversight Committee originally held a hearing on Operation Fast and Furious in 2011, which forced out the ATF chain of command and caused the Justice Department to issue new policies prohibiting gun-walking.
The ATF and the Justice Department obstructed Congress throughout this investigation.
Six years later, Congress is still seeking documents related to the Justice Department’s response to the Congressional investigation.
https://grothman.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=333

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Apr 28, 2024 17:44:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Justice101 wrote:
You are quoting the accomplishments of FDR who wanted to pack the Supreme Court to get his "New Deal" through and he turned Away Thousands of Jewish Refugees, Fearing That They Were Nazi Spies.
In a long tradition of “persecuting the refugee,” the State Department and FDR claimed that Jewish immigrants could threaten national security. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/us-government-turned-away-thousands-jewish-refugees-fearing-they-were-nazi-spies-180957324/

Aww. Climate change isn't a bigger threat to National Security than Biden's American Open Border policies and his kowtowing/enabling to Iran and Hamas because he needs the radical Jew hating Islamists' votes in Michigan and Minnesota. His far-left base.

He could have ended the war in Ukraine 2 years ago, but his war mongering donors would be angry.
Spending trillions giving away money in his American Plan (soon after Trump's pandemic relief bill) and after the supply chain had been shut down during the pandemic helped fuel the inflation we have been seeing.

Don't get me started on how badly Biden is doing with our gas prices and monkeying around with our Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
When gas prices drop, Biden takes credit. When they increase, Biden never mentions gas prices.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/beltway-confidential/2976163/gas-prices-continue-to-soar-in-bidens-america/
You are quoting the accomplishments of FDR who wan... (show quote)


You seem to be a bit lost on near all of this post..

more recent estimates put the number at from 140,000 (about 2.5%). Today, Somalis are by far the largest Muslim immigrant group in Minnesota. In 2020, a little over 91,000 Somalis lived in Minnesota.

Minnesota Population 2024
5,761,530

A glance at the above numbers makes your comment about the state being lost to radical muslims very sorry twist of fact.. I bet a Michigander could say the same thing..

How could the Ukraine war (Putin's war) be stopped by Joe? Let Putin march in and destroy the conountry? than vald would move on and invade some other small country... then the next and as long as he was gifted with the things he wanted at the moment, the road would be endless.. such is the role of the orange man, otherwise known as Putins dog...

Never happen as long as America remains a world power as we have been after WWll..

Gas prices,, wow,, can you ever figure it out?? big oil runs the oil sales as it wishes, they worked near 200 years to make it the cash cow we contend with today... so now, the US produces record oil and yet the seller sets the prices or seems to.. I must say.. friday I filled my tank at the price of 3.44.. but in my wisdom I did not buy gas on the prior Thursday when it was sold at 3.32 and one low station at 3.21... wow,, I am soPOd, I could have saved all that 12 cents per gal and done... something.. bought a pack of gum..

Why pick on Joe for not mentioning gas prices when they go up.. that is the only time the orange dingbats talk about it.. if you find a way to blame Joe when prices go up, he sure as hell gits to brag when priced go down.. It is the American way...

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Apr 28, 2024 17:48:07   #
LindaK
 
straightUp wrote:
Yeah, apparently it is for a lot of people. For me it's a problem because we share a government and as long as we are this divided, that government is going to be rendered ineffective. As it is, Congress is barely able to keep the government running and all the House does is launch investigations and try to vote each other off the island.

It's too bad because I honestly think we should be on the same side. We are all working-class Americans trying to feed our families.


Not all Americans pay federal taxes. Possibly you might want to check out a *recent stat* on the number who don’t pay federal taxes. Most all are aware that Biden’s inflation (going up again) are in themselves a tax on taxpayers. They’ve been high for most all his time in power.

Edited to add: plus people feel the pain of the inflation Biden’s caused in even the ways that aren’t counted as part of his inflation causing pain.

Heard lately that biden plan to end the tax cut’s President Trump put in place. Wow. That’ll be popular. Not!

On top of that, as a means to bring down fuel prices for his election chances, Biden’s talking about hitting our emergency fuel reserves again. His election is not an emergency for 1/2 of our nation.

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Apr 28, 2024 17:48:43   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
LindaK wrote:


Because of so many things I believe Obama was not qualified to become our president, including but not limited to, his own African grandmother saying she watch Obama being born in Africa. Plus it would have been so easy for him to produce his birth certificate when the controversy first was brought up. The final reason for me was not Obama’s race, because I originally thought it possible for him being from both black and white people he could have been a leader to unite our nation race wise. But then his actions showed that wasn’t going to be the case, just the opposite.

Oh, back to the last reason for me after reading much info was that Obama, in introducing himself to voters, was a pamphlet he put out which mentioned he was a Kenyan. Plus neither HI hospital initially took credit for him being born in HI. There’s so many other very valid reasons Obama didn’t qualify to be an American president, but that’s old news now. Interested people will need to read it for themselves if interested, plus his support for his Muslim brothers.
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How in the heck can you still be clinging to the lies about President Obama that were tossed in the trash years ago.. such a none functioning adult should not be allowed to vote or raise kids in America.. for shame..



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Apr 28, 2024 17:49:42   #
Justice101
 
billlingle wrote:
Inflation spiked across the entire planet due to many factors having nothing to do with politics or political policy. Biden, though, was the leader who stood way out in front of the crowd of world leaders in bringing the US to the lowest inflation rate in the industrialized world and in record time. The fact that new immigrants are not being allowed to work and to fill the 9.3 million jobs that are currently unfilled is a hinderance keeping the inflation rate from falling even further. Currently in the US there are fewer unemployed people than there are open jobs. In the past 250 year in this country, immigrants have filled these jobs. This has been the primary reason that the US has grown at the rate that has put it on top of the stack in terms of productivity and growth. Other countries had to rely on their birth rate and kids growing up to fill open positions. The current problems that we are experiencing at the border, most of which are now put on the backs of the republicans in the House of Representatives who refuse to do anything about it, could be mitigated in large part by sending those arriving to locations where those with unfilled jobs that Americans don't want are clamoring for workers. Legality doesn't matter at that point. Immigrants that are working are stable and living in one place making them easy to locate and to monitor. The fact that they need to eat and have a roof means that they are spending the wages being earned, paying social security tax even though they are ineligible to receive the benefits and contributing significantly to the national economy. It's sort of like making lemonade from societies little lemons.
Your savior, Fat Donny the Rapist and his incompetent, disasterous mishandling of the COVID crisis, was one of the major reasons that the economic impact from the pandemic was as sever as it was. Had the Loser won reelection we most likely would be in a depression with Putin as the primary counselor to Fat Donny the Loser. Take a look at Fat Donny's last year. That was when Obama's coattails were eliminated by the pandemic and the Fat Boy was no longer able to keep up his free ride. It was the disaster that Joe Biden, with no help from those who caused the nightmare, who pulled the nation from the brink and brought it to the position of strength where we find it today.
Inflation spiked across the entire planet due to m... (show quote)


I see that you used alternative facts and mostly opinions in your screed. Where do you get your information from?

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Apr 28, 2024 17:57:15   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
America 1 wrote:
"for instance... Was it the truth, or just one more of the lie about it and do it anyway strategy that was used to steal the SS trust fund and run guns to South America? More and more of the lies by the right wing come home to roost."

FAST AND FURIOUS SCANDAL SHOULD BE ONE OF THE GREATEST SCANDALS IN AMERICAN HISTORY
Congressman Glenn Grothman (R-Glenbeulah) today criticized the Obama administration’s response to Operation Fast and Furious in a House Oversight and Government Reform Committee hearing focused on what is still not known about the scandal six years later.

Witnesses at the hearing included Josephine Terry and Robert Heyer, mother and cousin of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry who was killed as a result of the operation, U.S. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) Special Agent John Dodson.

Excerpts of Grothman’s remarks

“We really haven’t gotten into how this happened in the first place, or what the motive would be for the U.S. government to try to get United States automatic weapons in the hands of Mexican drug cartels.

“It’s very horrible what happened to Bryan Terry. And I would suppose, given the zeal with which they were pursuing this, there were an unknown amount of Mexican individuals who wound up being killed as a result of the actions of the U.S. government. Do you think that’s accurate?

“Has the Obama administration, or anyone connected with that administration, apologized to the Mexican government for trying to get automatic weapons down to the Mexican drug cartels as far as you’re aware?

“Well, someone ought to apologize.

“What would be the motivation to try to get American automatic weapons in the hands of drug cartels? Why did some people in the American government think it was in our interest to make sure the Mexican drug cartels were armed to the teeth?

“Eric Holder was certainly not very helpful. We held him in contempt of Congress. Can you, in general, give us your opinion on the degree to which Eric Holder tried to help this investigation, and the degree to which he tried to stand in the way of finding out what’s really going on here?

“It appears he really didn’t want to get to the bottom of it. He was willing to cover it up.

“Did you see the Obama administration step up and do anything about this?

“It looks like after [Eric Holder] left public service, he was rewarded by working at Covington and Burling, a top-of-the-line, liberal-leaning law firm in Washington. Does that bother you when you see people like Special Agent Dodson – his career stalled because he cares about the people, and cares about the future of this country? But somebody who gets in the way of this investigation is rewarded by the left-leaning establishment here in town by getting a job with a big law firm.

“I just hope this committee and whoever the new committee chairman is does what they can to make sure this is written in the history books. Sometimes, they say the winners write the history books, and sometimes horrific things happen and they disappear and future generations will never know about it.

“To me, the Fast and Furious scandal should be one of the greatest scandals in American history, and I hope this committee does all it
can so that people in the future always know the name of Eric Holder and know how little was done by this administration after they participated, for whatever motivation, in trying to get automatic weapons into the hands of the drug cartel.

“I want to thank you, Mrs. Terry, for showing up. I’d like to thank you Special Agent Dodson. I know you’re not as financially well-off as you would be if you had kept your head down, but I’m sure your reward is greater because you’re on the side of the angels.”
Operation Fast and Furious was a plan implemented by the Obama administration in which guns were sold to Mexican cartels in hopes that the guns would later be tracked to high-ranking cartel members and assist in their capture.

Instead, many of the guns went missing, and several were found at crime scenes on both sides of the Mexican-American border including at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.
The Oversight Committee originally held a hearing on Operation Fast and Furious in 2011, which forced out the ATF chain of command and caused the Justice Department to issue new policies prohibiting gun-walking.
The ATF and the Justice Department obstructed Congress throughout this investigation.
Six years later, Congress is still seeking documents related to the Justice Department’s response to the Congressional investigation.
https://grothman.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=333
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You must understand by now that the lies are constructed to pull at any heart strings you may have and then you will be less inclined to have a look at the truth which is covered up for all you targeted groups..

You will not now or ever accept anything near the facts so why shall I keep extending them to you?

It is only my basic ideal of fairness and the light of truth that continues to force just one more effort to extend facts in the general direction of the radical right winger.. but this time.. NO.. I am still recovering and a bit worn , so hell with you all.. you will never look so I will not bother to challenge you to try that, go your way, live in your bubble, we will drag you along to the future without your participation... kicking and screaming you will do, but the future you find will be love by you and those like you even as you refuse to love the democrats who build it for all Americans, even for the likes of you.

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Apr 28, 2024 17:58:04   #
LindaK
 
permafrost wrote:
How in the heck can you still be clinging to the lies about President Obama that were tossed in the trash years ago.. such a none functioning adult should not be allowed to vote or raise kids in America.. for shame..


Your pumpkin is cute. So you support the weaponization of even our onetime Justice system. Wow!!

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Apr 28, 2024 17:59:17   #
okie don
 
tomhoff24 wrote:
Trump’s 2020 tax return showed 0$ toward charities.


Maybe he donated his presidential salary and social security.

Incidently, I heard China Joe draws Social security.

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