WEBCO wrote:
There is a difference between volunteer and mandatory.
Not in the Union....They smile, & say: You are volunteering, to join...[ or go home]
Many years ago, {circa 1920's & 30's}...there was a place for the Union mentality, today, There must be a huge
reform if they are to last! Corruption?... { synonymous with Unionism! }
How about oversight in the Teachers union? Dock workers, & Teamsters Union, UAW/CIO....?
AuH20 wrote:
Yes, they should!
No....they should not! They should not align themselves politically...
their business is purely representing their membership, rights, & fairness....[ end of story!]
What happens to leadership, of Unions? James Hoffa...Walter P. Reuther, et al!
Follow the Mafia, or "disappear"! [ Kinda alike being a Dumbo-crap!]
Ronald Hatt wrote:
No....they should not! They should not align themselves politically...
their business is purely representing their membership, rights, & fairness....[ end of story!]
What happens to leadership, of Unions? James Hoffa...Walter P. Reuther, et al!
Follow the Mafia, or "disappear"! [ Kinda alike being a Dumbo-crap!]
Apparently you failed reading. The question presented was whether the union membership should vote their presidential choice and the union donate accordingly. My response is, yes, they should.
FYI, unions have been making political donations since their inception.
AuH20 wrote:
Apparently you failed reading. The question presented was whether the union membership should vote their presidential choice and the union donate accordingly. My response is, yes, they should.
FYI, unions have been making political donations since their inception.
Does not make it right! Arabs, have been cutting off the heads of their enemies, [ or percepted}, enemies, for
thousands of years.......is that right? Politicians have been involved in corruption since Hicc, was a pup,,,,does that
make it right? "OK", I intend to jump off the top of the Grand Cayon...."You first?"
Ronald Hatt wrote:
NO..."Unions", should stay out of Politics....like many at this venue should! Too many Unions, are corrupt, & super narcissistic!
And therefore Churches should stay out of Politics also. Separation of the Church and States by your own standards
jimpack123 wrote:
And therefore Churches should stay out of Politics also. Separation of the Church and States by your own standards
As long as it is understood,
no where, in the
Constitution, does the phrase
”Separation of Church and State appear.
As you brought this up, why is it acceptable for Democratic candidates to campaign in churches? Does this not invalidate your contention?
[quote=Ronald Hatt]Does not make it right! Arabs, have been cutting off the heads of their enemies, [ or percepted}, enemies, for
thousands of years.......is that right? Politicians have been involved in corruption since Hicc, was a pup,,,,does that
make it right? "OK", I intend to jump off the top of the Grand Cayon...."You first?"[/quote]
I find your writing incoherent.
AuH20 wrote:
As long as it is understood, no where, in the Constitution, does the phrase ”Separation of Church and State appear.
As you brought this up, why is it acceptable for Democratic candidates to campaign in churches? Does this not invalidate your contention?
The First Amendment reads that " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of Religion."
jimpack123 wrote:
And therefore Churches should stay out of Politics also. Separation of the Church and States by your own standards
My church, stays out of politics....doesn't yours?
Ronald Hatt wrote:
My church, stays out of politics....doesn't yours?
Yes but a lot of Churches have Ministers telling their Congregation who to vote for in there sermons and that is wrong weather it is right or left. the minister's are wrong to do this in my opinion
jimpack123 wrote:
Yes but a lot of Churches have Ministers telling their Congregation who to vote for in there sermons and that is wrong weather it is right or left. the minister's are wrong to do this in my opinion
Hummmm, been going to church, for over 70 yrs...I have not come across that of which you claim....Satan, your church? Are you simply "Bloviating", to hear unimportant echoes, from a non-existant source?
jimpack123 wrote:
The First Amendment reads that " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of Religion."
Yes, I am perfectly aware of that!
It is you who chose the use of the phrase
separation of church and state. So many use that phrase as if it is written somewhere in our founding documents. It is not!
AuH20 wrote:
Yes, I am perfectly aware of that!
It is you who chose the use of the phrase separation of church and state. So many use that phrase as if it is written somewhere in our founding documents. It is not!
The first clause, in the Bill of rights: "Congress, shall make no law, respecting an establishment of Religion!"
Hence: "separation of church & state" [ got that Skippy?]
If you had even an ounce of common sense, you would have run across this, "in lieu" of your erroneous statement!
Literal meaning? if you want to criticize :"Literal meaning"...get an education, & a law degree...[ Not like the
Demorat legal edu. Get a "real one'! "Ag" Merrick Garland, & Erake Holder?...[ Just 2 fool's, appointed by "one" other fool!
Biggest Fool: *Mulatto Muslim, & *homo-extraodinere....Barak Hussein Obamuslim! [ "Supreme court?....You gotta be kidding"!]....[ Said the Republicans, of Merrick the Fool!]
"Barry"...affectionately referred to as Bath House Barry...Homo, from CHicago! [ has a rhyme to it?] "Poetic"?
jimpack123 wrote:
Yes but a lot of Churches have Ministers telling their Congregation who to vote for in there sermons and that is wrong weather it is right or left. the minister's are wrong to do this in my opinion
A lot of elected Democrats go to southern black churches and openly campaign. One could not call that
separation of church and state.
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