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Apr 25, 2024 17:18:42   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
The last laugh won't be your own.

Sure it will. 👍🏼

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Apr 25, 2024 17:56:29   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
kemmer wrote:
Sure it will. 👍🏼


OK, have it your way. I have told you many times that I must respect your free will.

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Apr 26, 2024 22:05:37   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
OK, have it your way. I have told you many times that I must respect your free will.

Thank you.

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Apr 27, 2024 08:56:50   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
kemmer wrote:
Thank you.


Don't thank me, Kemmer, thank the One who gave free will to both of us. Respect also that the time will come for us both to answer for misusing our free will to sin and then not using the free gift of His grace to seek forgiveness and absolution. Jesus will not punish us because we sin, we will be punished for the sins we commit and not seek His forgiveness. "Lord I am not worthy."

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Apr 27, 2024 11:33:12   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
"Lord I am not worthy."

That’s fer damn sure! 🤭

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Apr 27, 2024 11:39:08   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
kemmer wrote:
That’s fer damn sure! 🤭

And I suppose that you think you are.

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Apr 27, 2024 11:42:44   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
kemmer wrote:
That’s fer damn sure! 🤭


The difference between us, Kemmer. is that I acknowledge it and I hope someday you do too.

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Apr 27, 2024 13:15:21   #
kemmer
 
Parky60 wrote:
And I suppose that you think you are.

Yeah; I’m a good person. I don’t go around telling perfect strangers how evil they are because of whom they love.

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Apr 27, 2024 14:01:11   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
kemmer wrote:
Yeah; I’m a good person. I don’t go around telling perfect strangers how evil they are because of whom they love.

You do realize that "good people" can go to hell, don't you?

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Apr 27, 2024 14:33:22   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
kemmer wrote:
Yeah; I’m a good person. I don’t go around telling perfect strangers how evil they are because of whom they love.


It's not love, it's sex. One more time: Sincere, genuine Godly love cares for the soul of a beloved. It does not engage in an act God forbids and condemns as sin, masquerade and call selfish sexual affection love. It is closer to hate born out of a selfish satisfying lust. It's not natural, therefore it is unnatural, against nature, therefore against God. We're back to free will which, used wisely, is truly a gift.

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Apr 27, 2024 14:54:32   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
It's not love, it's sex.

You’re a bitter, loveless, ignorant old man who needs to be pitied.

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Apr 27, 2024 14:55:37   #
kemmer
 
Parky60 wrote:
You do realize that "good people" can go to hell, don't you?

Doubtful, provided there is such a thing as hell.

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Apr 27, 2024 15:07:45   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
kemmer wrote:
You’re a bitter, loveless, ignorant old man who needs to be pitied.


Quite the opposite, as a priest I am obligated to correct, I can't force correction, I can only counsel and if warranted suggest my Bishop excommunicate someone like you which I would do. I would not allow you and your sex "partner" into any church I served. We welcome repentant sinners, we neither welcome nor serve sin.You only bring sin and shame wherever you go.

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Apr 27, 2024 15:18:21   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
kemmer wrote:
Doubtful, provided there is such a thing as hell.

Jesus spoke more of hell than he did of heaven. Are you calling him a liar?

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Apr 27, 2024 15:18:25   #
kemmer
 
padremike wrote:
…if warranted suggest my Bishop excommunicate someone like you which I would do.

Gleefully, no doubt. Like I would ever set foot in any church you terrorize. 😱
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We welcome repentant sinners, we neither welcome nor serve sin.

Like Ann Landers said once, “A church is not a country club for the (insufferably) righteous but a hospital for the troubled.”

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