AuntiE
Loc: 45th Least Free State
NotMAGA wrote:
What does the training include?
I think of Uvalde, where police who do the job every day hesitated rather than enter the school to confront an active shooter. I hope the mental evaluation is extensive, and will include some sort of method of testing the person's reaction to extreme stress. No one who might not remain calm in an extreme emergency such as an active shooter should be considered.
Really? You want to use the most cowardly police department as an example!
If each candidate takes, and passes, both defensive and tactical gun protocols, they should be qualified.
As a side note, police officers only have to weapon qualify once a year. 90% of the time, they go the range a week in advance to practice. I have a dozen shooters I could put up against any cop. Why? Because they go the range weekly to keep their skills fresh.
It astonishes me no one ever asks why cops need so many rounds to hit their target. Because they never take the time to practice with their weapon!
NotMAGA
Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
AuntiE wrote:
Really? You want to use the most cowardly police department as an example!
If each candidate takes, and passes, both defensive and tactical gun protocols, they should be qualified.
As a side note, police officers only have to weapon qualify once a year. 90% of the time, they go the range a week in advance to practice. I have a dozen shooters I could put up against any cop. Why? Because they go the range weekly to keep their skills fresh.
It astonishes me no one ever asks why cops need so many rounds to hit their target. Because they never take the time to practice with their weapon!
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What I'm talking about is the reaction to, really, any emergency. No one really knows for sure how they will react until it comes to it.
When he was still an enlisted guy, one of our son's Sergeants at his MOS school used to use live rounds in some of the training exercises. He had been deployed three times in war zones and knew it was important to make sure they knew how it felt to have real ammo whizzing overhead.
AuntiE
Loc: 45th Least Free State
NotMAGA wrote:
What I'm talking about is the reaction to, really, any emergency. No one really knows for sure how they will react until it comes to it.
When he was still an enlisted guy, one of our son's Sergeants at his MOS school used to use live rounds in some of the training exercises. He had been deployed three times in war zones and knew it was important to make sure they knew how it felt to have real ammo whizzing overhead.
Again, tactical training is that component.
More interesting is nobody but nobody does it better than a NRA Certified instructor. They have hours upon hours upon hours of training and practice before they are certified as an instructor.
NotMAGA
Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
AuntiE wrote:
Again, tactical training is that component.
More interesting is nobody but nobody does it better than a NRA Certified instructor. They have hours upon hours upon hours of training and practice before they are certified as an instructor.
Our Exec Dir does that now. He used to be a cop. Now does training sessions for people wanting a concealed weapon permit.
AuntiE wrote:
Agreed, on this Wednesday evening.
Thank you for reminding me, I have to take the garbage out tonight to the road.
XXX
Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
NotMAGA wrote:
What does the training include?
I think of Uvalde, where police who do the job every day hesitated rather than enter the school to confront an active shooter. I hope the mental evaluation is extensive, and will include some sort of method of testing the person's reaction to extreme stress. No one who might not remain calm in an extreme emergency such as an active shooter should be considered.
You can look it up for more details. I didn't include a link because someone wouldn't like the site.
AuntiE
Loc: 45th Least Free State
NotMAGA wrote:
Our Exec Dir does that now. He used to be a cop. Now does training sessions for people wanting a concealed weapon permit.
I would rather have a soldier (active, inactive) than a cop. Having said that, for basic gun safety/handling, a good choice.
The NRA instructor I had made every single person tell him exactly where in their house they could point a gun that if it went off it would not leave the house. He spent 20 minutes making everybody repeatedly “clear a weapon”, hand it to the person next to them, and that person clear it.
Fun note, I do not have the strength to ‘rack’ an AR-15. My long gun should be a double barrel shotgun. I had never had one in my hand, cleared it, loaded it and racked it faster than anyone. **patting self on back**
AuntiE
Loc: 45th Least Free State
Peaver Bogart wrote:
Thank you for reminding me, I have to take the garbage out tonight to the road.
ProgenyE has to take ours out. ‘
Is MrsPB’s hand still improving well?
XXX
Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
NotMAGA wrote:
What I'm talking about is the reaction to, really, any emergency. No one really knows for sure how they will react until it comes to it.
When he was still an enlisted guy, one of our son's Sergeants at his MOS school used to use live rounds in some of the training exercises. He had been deployed three times in war zones and knew it was important to make sure they knew how it felt to have real ammo whizzing overhead.
So why does an armed teacher need to be tought for emergency when an unarmed doesn't? How would the reaction be any different?
NotMAGA
Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
XXX wrote:
So why does an armed teacher need to be tought for emergency when an unarmed doesn't? How would the reaction be any different?
A teacher with a gun who panics might shoot a student instead of the shooter.
AuntiE
Loc: 45th Least Free State
NotMAGA wrote:
A teacher with a gun who panics might shoot a student instead of the shooter.
If the educational system was not so utterly stupid, they would practice real active shooter drills.
The very first thing a teacher should shout is,
drop! Unless a school is fortunate enough to have a hobbist “shooter”, important training will never happen. File cabinets should be directly next to classroom doors to be moved to block the door.
On another note, maybe school systems could stop dumping money into administration and install some real safety. Per an ex-Navy Seal, kevlar doors for every school door, deadbolt locks on all doors, alarm every door so it can not be left propped open (think Ulvade), safety fire ladders in every classroom (to get students out windows), and there was another thing my memory card will not reveal.
NotMAGA
Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
AuntiE wrote:
If the educational system was not so utterly stupid, they would practice real active shooter drills.
The very first thing a teacher should shout is, drop! Unless a school is fortunate enough to have a hobbist “shooter”, important training will never happen. File cabinets should be directly next to classroom doors to be moved to block the door.
On another note, maybe school systems could stop dumping money into administration and install some real safety. Per an ex-Navy Seal, kevlar doors for every school door, deadbolt locks on all doors, alarm every door so it can not be left propped open (think Ulvade), safety fire ladders in every classroom (to get students out windows), and there was another thing my memory card will not reveal.
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I just have a tough time with the fact that the only country in the world where this "active shooter" thing happens with disturbing regularity is the US.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country
AuntiE
Loc: 45th Least Free State
I have a difficult time with the fact, in all but two cases, law enforcement had been aware and somewhat involved and did nothing.
I have a difficult time with the studies showing everyone of these shooters had been on psychotropic drugs, and it is being shown they have a severe impact on young males yet are doled out like candy.
AuntiE wrote:
ProgenyE has to take ours out. ‘
Is MrsPB’s hand still improving well?
It is, but she tries to use it frequently and I have to stop her.
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