The return of the middle class! (Page 2): My company was mine. We were non union. Productive employees were paid higher than union wages. Some employees did not progress and did the...

4522chief

Kevyn wrote:

When you say “your company” do you own the company? If so congratulations on conning your employees into not organizing to bargain for better pay, safety and working conditions, instead relying on pitting themselves against each other to garner your favor. If you are calling the company you labor for “your company” you have been bamboozled.

My company was mine. We were non union. Productive employees were paid higher than union wages. Some employees did not progress and did the work that did not pay as well and they stayed and were fine with their job at that level. Some moved on and tried to find jobs that paid better and didn’t have to work hard. We had better health insurance than the union. Our better employees never considered going union. The ones at lower jobs probably did. The better employees understood that going union would mean the unproductive employees would make the same. That is the problem with unions.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

JFlorio wrote:

Private companies. Shareholders o.k. bonus's etc. If you're going to speak on a subject you should have some one explain it to you. Obviously union made cars cost the corporation more. fine with me. If they sell they sell, but you democrats were bent out of shape when tariffs were used to level the playing field and made that cheap Chinese crap more expensive.

Take your scab ass and run along !!!!
Who’s Money are you trying to save. ?????
Whomever builds your car is irrelevant to you.
Those people you are trying to save money for couldn’t care less about you.
Tarriffs ,
Sonny ,
are paid for by you .
It punishes you , no one else.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Milosia2 wrote:

Take your scab ass and run along !!!!
Who’s Money are you trying to save. ?????
Whomever builds your car is irrelevant to you.
Those people you are trying to save money for couldn’t care less about you.
Tarriffs ,
Sonny ,
are paid for by you .
It punishes you , no one else.

Not if I don't buy the products tariffed dummy. Union Labor costs are paid by you. They punish you, no one else. See how that works idi**?

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Jim0001 wrote:

Unions breed complacency and destroy incentive to achieve. A worthless worker can earn the same pay as a quality employee. The employees in my company voted for NO UNION.

Unions once protected their craft and would get rid of substandard workers themselves. Today they're more like the Mafia where workers pay for job protection regardless of their work ethics and job performance.

The worst of all Unions are those found in the Federal Bureaucracy work force.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Milosia2 wrote:

Auto Labor costs are still
below 8% of total car costs .
Unionized companies
have more efficient work forces .
Once the shareholders figure out it’s the stakeholders that make all the money for the company, the tend to agree with unionization.
CEOs are now the ones making too much money , thanks to Reagan abolishing theCap on CEO Pay .

The Davis-Bacon Act has added untold $$Billions paid out to contractors doing business with the Government.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

JFlorio wrote:

Not if I don't buy the products tariffed dummy. Union Labor costs are paid by you. They punish you, no one else. See how that works idi**?

Wrong again.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

padremike wrote:

The Davis-Bacon Act has added untold $$Billions paid out to contractors doing business with the Government.

Why should contracts bring paid out by government be forced to cover a 40% profit margin ?
Defeats the purpose , no. ?

Wonttakeitanymore

Kevyn wrote:

Auto workers in Tennessee at a ratio of three to one voted to join the UAW! They looked at the middle class wages and benefits earned by their brothers and sisters in the North through collective bargaining and decided to join them. With support from Biden’s labor department our middle class is being built back! Soon workers throughout the south will follow and enjoy better wages and benefits, safer work places and due process in disagreements with management.

The middle class is getting eaten alive with this evil admin

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Milosia2 wrote:

Why should contracts bring paid out by government be forced to cover a 40% profit margin ?
Defeats the purpose , no. ?

What are talking about? Non-union, right to work, can do a government contract cheaper but Davis-Bacon forces them to pay union rates including vacation benefits.

pegw

I really think unions are a good thing. The first thing is job security, My husband was laid off many times as a computer programmer and they replaced him with younger cheaper help. You can't do that with a union. also unions get health insurance, and better benefits than non union shops. Just look at the teacher's salaries between union teachers and non union teachers. When I was in a union, I wasn't feeling complacent but I felt secure.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Wonttakeitanymore wrote:

The middle class is getting eaten alive with this evil admin

Nope.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

padremike wrote:

The Davis-Bacon Act has added untold $$Billions paid out to contractors doing business with the Government.

It’s the government’s job to spend money .
Saving it serves no purpose whatsoever.
We should not however be paying a
40% profit margin hidden in government contracts.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

pegw wrote:

I really think unions are a good thing. The first thing is job security, My husband was laid off many times as a computer programmer and they replaced him with younger cheaper help. You can't do that with a union. also unions get health insurance, and better benefits than non union shops. Just look at the teacher's salaries between union teachers and non union teachers. When I was in a union, I wasn't feeling complacent but I felt secure.

Teachers unions suck.

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Milosia2 wrote:

It’s the government’s job to spend money .
Saving it serves no purpose whatsoever.
We should not however be paying a
40% profit margin hidden in government contracts.

What year did you have your lobotomy or is it drugs that fried your brain. You act like our $$$ belongs to the government. What is this 40% hidden profit margin you're talking about?

Turtle keeper

Milosia2 wrote:

Auto Labor costs are still
below 8% of total car costs .
Unionized companies
have more efficient work forces .
Once the shareholders figure out it’s the stakeholders that make all the money for the company, the tend to agree with unionization.
CEOs are now the ones making too much money , thanks to Reagan abolishing theCap on CEO Pay .

Unionized workers in my experience are not more efficient. I at one time oversaw electricians. The project was large and we had both Union workers and non-union workers. The non union workers were faster and produce better quality work than the Union workers. It’s kind of fun to see how fast a group of people can get to their brake area for their brake but I guess they can’t walk fast after eating their snacks at the end of their brake. As the project starts getting done they are extremely tired and can’t work as hard and definitely not as fast. They can drag the work out and do Drag it out. Union workers do not impress me at all.