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Apr 21, 2024 16:59:24   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck Schumer. Nancy Pelosi. The United States Congress.

The American people have nobody to blame but themselves.

It’s called “democracy.”

It may be surprising to us, but there have been thinkers down through history who didn’t believe democracy is the optimal system of government. Here is a quotation from one of them:

“Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would at the same time be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.”

This same writer also penned this:

“Democracy is the [vilest] form of government.”

Most Americans would think such heretical words had to have been written by Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Attila the Hun, or some such tyrannical megalomaniac. Nancy Pelosi and all the leftists on OPP would probably say Donald Trump wrote them. But actually, the author of those sentiments was James Madison, the man given most of the credit for writing our Constitution. Yes, THAT James Madison.

Now go back and read again, more carefully, what he wrote.

As strange as it may sound for an American in the 21st century to be saying this, there are actually some sound arguments against democracy. I can support Madison’s thesis in many ways. Look at the list I started with. Add Kamala Harris. Barak Obama. Bill Clinton. And Hillary. Two George Bushes. Jimmy Carter. Not to mention Adam Schiff, Lindsey Graham, California, the whole Democratic Party, all leftists on OPP and you can add your own. I think this is (partially) what Mr. Madison had in mind. Occasionally, democracy does give us a Reagan or Trump, but that is the exception not the rule. Maybe once a generation.

By the way, just as an aside, Madison also said, “Disarm the people—that is the best and most effective way to enslave them.” Adolf Hitler DID agree with that. As did Joseph Stalin. And Mao Zedong. Joe Biden. Hopefully, Republicans won’t let that happen, but don’t take it to the bank.

Actually, in American history—and this is extremely important—democracy has been a gradual development. Women suffrage was put in the Constitution in 1920, though many could vote before that date. Many minorities were denied the vote until the Voting Rights Act of 1965. 18-year-olds in 1971. Those are huge segments of the American population, well over 50%. In one significant sense, we could say the United States “democracy” is barely 100 years old.

An anecdote. Author Mark Lewis is (was) an historian by trade and he spent about 25 years teaching history to college students, mostly 18-year-old freshmen, mostly Americans. One semester, he decided he would begin by giving the students a “pre-semester (non-credit) exam” on American history and culture. One of the multiple-choice questions was, “What is Jennifer Lopez known for?” Another of the questions was, “According to our Founding Fathers, what is the purpose of government?” Of the 30 or so students in that class, every single student knew that Jennifer Lopez is famous for her big butt. Not one student knew the purpose of government according to our Founding Fathers (to protect property). That class was in California (c. 2005). He tried.

These are the people we let choose our leaders now. And for the next generation. It’s probably already hopeless, folks.

While the above is anecdotal, it probably isn’t uncommon in America. And it explains exactly why so many mediocre, incompetent people have been elected to office. Give Evil and Mediocrity the vote and don’t be surprised if Evil and Mediocrity are elected. Madison would surely agree with that sentiment.

“In the U.S., [just over a century] of full-blown democracy has resulted in steadily increasing moral degeneration, family and social disintegration, and cultural decay in the form of continually rising rates of divorce, illegitimacy, abortion, and crime.” (Hans-Hermann Hoppe, “Democracy: The God That Failed”). Madison would no doubt have expected that, too.

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide,” John Adams, our second President. Note his belief that democracies “murder themselves” and “commit suicide.” Does that describe what America is doing today?

Our “democracy” is not 250 years old; it has barely reached 100. What will the next 100 years bring? Will there even be a next 100 years?

A democratic republic can only survive if the vast majority of people are moral, honorable, trustworthy, law-abiding, family-oriented, and patriotic. And the Uniparty in Congress is making sure that more and more Americans have less and less of those qualities. Because they don’t want democracy (they would lose), they want tyranny.

I wish Madison and Adams could come back to life and see America today. I know EXACTLY what they would say:

“We told you so.”

If our Founders didn’t establish a “democracy,” what DID they establish? Yes, a republic, but if the “people” are incompetent to rule, who should? We’ll save that for another time. And as always, the Founders’ true system is actually brilliant.

When stupidity and evil surpass wisdom and virtue among a people, democracy becomes the worst form of government possible.

Our failure to listen to history might cause our ultimate downfall.

Reply
Apr 21, 2024 17:19:27   #
Steven smith
 
Parky60 wrote:
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck Schumer. Nancy Pelosi. The United States Congress.

The American people have nobody to blame but themselves.

It’s called “democracy.”

It may be surprising to us, but there have been thinkers down through history who didn’t believe democracy is the optimal system of government. Here is a quotation from one of them:

“Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would at the same time be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.”

This same writer also penned this:

“Democracy is the [vilest] form of government.”

Most Americans would think such heretical words had to have been written by Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Attila the Hun, or some such tyrannical megalomaniac. Nancy Pelosi and all the leftists on OPP would probably say Donald Trump wrote them. But actually, the author of those sentiments was James Madison, the man given most of the credit for writing our Constitution. Yes, THAT James Madison.

Now go back and read again, more carefully, what he wrote.

As strange as it may sound for an American in the 21st century to be saying this, there are actually some sound arguments against democracy. I can support Madison’s thesis in many ways. Look at the list I started with. Add Kamala Harris. Barak Obama. Bill Clinton. And Hillary. Two George Bushes. Jimmy Carter. Not to mention Adam Schiff, Lindsey Graham, California, the whole Democratic Party, all leftists on OPP and you can add your own. I think this is (partially) what Mr. Madison had in mind. Occasionally, democracy does give us a Reagan or Trump, but that is the exception not the rule. Maybe once a generation.

By the way, just as an aside, Madison also said, “Disarm the people—that is the best and most effective way to enslave them.” Adolf Hitler DID agree with that. As did Joseph Stalin. And Mao Zedong. Joe Biden. Hopefully, Republicans won’t let that happen, but don’t take it to the bank.

Actually, in American history—and this is extremely important—democracy has been a gradual development. Women suffrage was put in the Constitution in 1920, though many could vote before that date. Many minorities were denied the vote until the Voting Rights Act of 1965. 18-year-olds in 1971. Those are huge segments of the American population, well over 50%. In one significant sense, we could say the United States “democracy” is barely 100 years old.

An anecdote. Author Mark Lewis is (was) an historian by trade and he spent about 25 years teaching history to college students, mostly 18-year-old freshmen, mostly Americans. One semester, he decided he would begin by giving the students a “pre-semester (non-credit) exam” on American history and culture. One of the multiple-choice questions was, “What is Jennifer Lopez known for?” Another of the questions was, “According to our Founding Fathers, what is the purpose of government?” Of the 30 or so students in that class, every single student knew that Jennifer Lopez is famous for her big butt. Not one student knew the purpose of government according to our Founding Fathers (to protect property). That class was in California (c. 2005). He tried.

These are the people we let choose our leaders now. And for the next generation. It’s probably already hopeless, folks.

While the above is anecdotal, it probably isn’t uncommon in America. And it explains exactly why so many mediocre, incompetent people have been elected to office. Give Evil and Mediocrity the vote and don’t be surprised if Evil and Mediocrity are elected. Madison would surely agree with that sentiment.

“In the U.S., [just over a century] of full-blown democracy has resulted in steadily increasing moral degeneration, family and social disintegration, and cultural decay in the form of continually rising rates of divorce, illegitimacy, abortion, and crime.” (Hans-Hermann Hoppe, “Democracy: The God That Failed”). Madison would no doubt have expected that, too.

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide,” John Adams, our second President. Note his belief that democracies “murder themselves” and “commit suicide.” Does that describe what America is doing today?

Our “democracy” is not 250 years old; it has barely reached 100. What will the next 100 years bring? Will there even be a next 100 years?

A democratic republic can only survive if the vast majority of people are moral, honorable, trustworthy, law-abiding, family-oriented, and patriotic. And the Uniparty in Congress is making sure that more and more Americans have less and less of those qualities. Because they don’t want democracy (they would lose), they want tyranny.

I wish Madison and Adams could come back to life and see America today. I know EXACTLY what they would say:

“We told you so.”

If our Founders didn’t establish a “democracy,” what DID they establish? Yes, a republic, but if the “people” are incompetent to rule, who should? We’ll save that for another time. And as always, the Founders’ true system is actually brilliant.

When stupidity and evil surpass wisdom and virtue among a people, democracy becomes the worst form of government possible.

Our failure to listen to history might cause our ultimate downfall.
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck... (show quote)



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Apr 21, 2024 18:02:52   #
Airforceone
 
Parky60 wrote:
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck Schumer. Nancy Pelosi. The United States Congress.

The American people have nobody to blame but themselves.

It’s called “democracy.”

It may be surprising to us, but there have been thinkers down through history who didn’t believe democracy is the optimal system of government. Here is a quotation from one of them:

“Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would at the same time be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.”

This same writer also penned this:

“Democracy is the [vilest] form of government.”

Most Americans would think such heretical words had to have been written by Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Attila the Hun, or some such tyrannical megalomaniac. Nancy Pelosi and all the leftists on OPP would probably say Donald Trump wrote them. But actually, the author of those sentiments was James Madison, the man given most of the credit for writing our Constitution. Yes, THAT James Madison.

Now go back and read again, more carefully, what he wrote.

As strange as it may sound for an American in the 21st century to be saying this, there are actually some sound arguments against democracy. I can support Madison’s thesis in many ways. Look at the list I started with. Add Kamala Harris. Barak Obama. Bill Clinton. And Hillary. Two George Bushes. Jimmy Carter. Not to mention Adam Schiff, Lindsey Graham, California, the whole Democratic Party, all leftists on OPP and you can add your own. I think this is (partially) what Mr. Madison had in mind. Occasionally, democracy does give us a Reagan or Trump, but that is the exception not the rule. Maybe once a generation.

By the way, just as an aside, Madison also said, “Disarm the people—that is the best and most effective way to enslave them.” Adolf Hitler DID agree with that. As did Joseph Stalin. And Mao Zedong. Joe Biden. Hopefully, Republicans won’t let that happen, but don’t take it to the bank.

Actually, in American history—and this is extremely important—democracy has been a gradual development. Women suffrage was put in the Constitution in 1920, though many could vote before that date. Many minorities were denied the vote until the Voting Rights Act of 1965. 18-year-olds in 1971. Those are huge segments of the American population, well over 50%. In one significant sense, we could say the United States “democracy” is barely 100 years old.

An anecdote. Author Mark Lewis is (was) an historian by trade and he spent about 25 years teaching history to college students, mostly 18-year-old freshmen, mostly Americans. One semester, he decided he would begin by giving the students a “pre-semester (non-credit) exam” on American history and culture. One of the multiple-choice questions was, “What is Jennifer Lopez known for?” Another of the questions was, “According to our Founding Fathers, what is the purpose of government?” Of the 30 or so students in that class, every single student knew that Jennifer Lopez is famous for her big butt. Not one student knew the purpose of government according to our Founding Fathers (to protect property). That class was in California (c. 2005). He tried.

These are the people we let choose our leaders now. And for the next generation. It’s probably already hopeless, folks.

While the above is anecdotal, it probably isn’t uncommon in America. And it explains exactly why so many mediocre, incompetent people have been elected to office. Give Evil and Mediocrity the vote and don’t be surprised if Evil and Mediocrity are elected. Madison would surely agree with that sentiment.

“In the U.S., [just over a century] of full-blown democracy has resulted in steadily increasing moral degeneration, family and social disintegration, and cultural decay in the form of continually rising rates of divorce, illegitimacy, abortion, and crime.” (Hans-Hermann Hoppe, “Democracy: The God That Failed”). Madison would no doubt have expected that, too.

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide,” John Adams, our second President. Note his belief that democracies “murder themselves” and “commit suicide.” Does that describe what America is doing today?

Our “democracy” is not 250 years old; it has barely reached 100. What will the next 100 years bring? Will there even be a next 100 years?

A democratic republic can only survive if the vast majority of people are moral, honorable, trustworthy, law-abiding, family-oriented, and patriotic. And the Uniparty in Congress is making sure that more and more Americans have less and less of those qualities. Because they don’t want democracy (they would lose), they want tyranny.

I wish Madison and Adams could come back to life and see America today. I know EXACTLY what they would say:

“We told you so.”

If our Founders didn’t establish a “democracy,” what DID they establish? Yes, a republic, but if the “people” are incompetent to rule, who should? We’ll save that for another time. And as always, the Founders’ true system is actually brilliant.

When stupidity and evil surpass wisdom and virtue among a people, democracy becomes the worst form of government possible.

Our failure to listen to history might cause our ultimate downfall.
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck... (show quote)


YOU ARE A VERY SICK AND PERVERTED PERSON. I HOPE NOBODY AGREES WITH YOUR CONVOLUTED WAY OF THINKING. BUT AMERICANS MUST PRAY FOR THE STUPID. I WILL PRAY FOR YOU.

Answer this question how did the United States of America become the riches country in the world, the smartest country in the world and controls the largest military in the world. Was it because of your stupidity msybe think about that.

This you and the rest of the MAGA Morons
This you and the rest of the MAGA Morons...

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Apr 21, 2024 18:41:05   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Airforceone wrote:
YOU ARE A VERY SICK AND PERVERTED PERSON. I HOPE NOBODY AGREES WITH YOUR CONVOLUTED WAY OF THINKING. BUT AMERICANS MUST PRAY FOR THE STUPID. I WILL PRAY FOR YOU.

Answer this question how did the United States of America become the riches country in the world, the smartest country in the world and controls the largest military in the world. Was it because of your stupidity msybe think about that.

It's people like you that prove the point of my post... "When stupidity and evil surpass wisdom and virtue among a people, democracy becomes the worst form of government possible."

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Apr 21, 2024 19:02:36   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
Parky60 wrote:
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck Schumer. Nancy Pelosi. The United States Congress.

The American people have nobody to blame but themselves.

It’s called “democracy.”

It may be surprising to us, but there have been thinkers down through history who didn’t believe democracy is the optimal system of government. Here is a quotation from one of them:

“Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would at the same time be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.”

This same writer also penned this:

“Democracy is the [vilest] form of government.”

Most Americans would think such heretical words had to have been written by Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Attila the Hun, or some such tyrannical megalomaniac. Nancy Pelosi and all the leftists on OPP would probably say Donald Trump wrote them. But actually, the author of those sentiments was James Madison, the man given most of the credit for writing our Constitution. Yes, THAT James Madison.

Now go back and read again, more carefully, what he wrote.

As strange as it may sound for an American in the 21st century to be saying this, there are actually some sound arguments against democracy. I can support Madison’s thesis in many ways. Look at the list I started with. Add Kamala Harris. Barak Obama. Bill Clinton. And Hillary. Two George Bushes. Jimmy Carter. Not to mention Adam Schiff, Lindsey Graham, California, the whole Democratic Party, all leftists on OPP and you can add your own. I think this is (partially) what Mr. Madison had in mind. Occasionally, democracy does give us a Reagan or Trump, but that is the exception not the rule. Maybe once a generation.

By the way, just as an aside, Madison also said, “Disarm the people—that is the best and most effective way to enslave them.” Adolf Hitler DID agree with that. As did Joseph Stalin. And Mao Zedong. Joe Biden. Hopefully, Republicans won’t let that happen, but don’t take it to the bank.

Actually, in American history—and this is extremely important—democracy has been a gradual development. Women suffrage was put in the Constitution in 1920, though many could vote before that date. Many minorities were denied the vote until the Voting Rights Act of 1965. 18-year-olds in 1971. Those are huge segments of the American population, well over 50%. In one significant sense, we could say the United States “democracy” is barely 100 years old.

An anecdote. Author Mark Lewis is (was) an historian by trade and he spent about 25 years teaching history to college students, mostly 18-year-old freshmen, mostly Americans. One semester, he decided he would begin by giving the students a “pre-semester (non-credit) exam” on American history and culture. One of the multiple-choice questions was, “What is Jennifer Lopez known for?” Another of the questions was, “According to our Founding Fathers, what is the purpose of government?” Of the 30 or so students in that class, every single student knew that Jennifer Lopez is famous for her big butt. Not one student knew the purpose of government according to our Founding Fathers (to protect property). That class was in California (c. 2005). He tried.

These are the people we let choose our leaders now. And for the next generation. It’s probably already hopeless, folks.

While the above is anecdotal, it probably isn’t uncommon in America. And it explains exactly why so many mediocre, incompetent people have been elected to office. Give Evil and Mediocrity the vote and don’t be surprised if Evil and Mediocrity are elected. Madison would surely agree with that sentiment.

“In the U.S., [just over a century] of full-blown democracy has resulted in steadily increasing moral degeneration, family and social disintegration, and cultural decay in the form of continually rising rates of divorce, illegitimacy, abortion, and crime.” (Hans-Hermann Hoppe, “Democracy: The God That Failed”). Madison would no doubt have expected that, too.

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide,” John Adams, our second President. Note his belief that democracies “murder themselves” and “commit suicide.” Does that describe what America is doing today?

Our “democracy” is not 250 years old; it has barely reached 100. What will the next 100 years bring? Will there even be a next 100 years?

A democratic republic can only survive if the vast majority of people are moral, honorable, trustworthy, law-abiding, family-oriented, and patriotic. And the Uniparty in Congress is making sure that more and more Americans have less and less of those qualities. Because they don’t want democracy (they would lose), they want tyranny.

I wish Madison and Adams could come back to life and see America today. I know EXACTLY what they would say:

“We told you so.”

If our Founders didn’t establish a “democracy,” what DID they establish? Yes, a republic, but if the “people” are incompetent to rule, who should? We’ll save that for another time. And as always, the Founders’ true system is actually brilliant.

When stupidity and evil surpass wisdom and virtue among a people, democracy becomes the worst form of government possible.

Our failure to listen to history might cause our ultimate downfall.
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck... (show quote)


I hope that other time comes soon. I would like to know who you think should rule and who should be allowed to vote. Are you suggesting civics quizzes must be passed in order to vote? A return to poll taxes or worse?

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Apr 21, 2024 20:12:10   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
I hope that other time comes soon. I would like to know who you think should rule and who should be allowed to vote. Are you suggesting civics quizzes must be passed in order to vote? A return to poll taxes or worse?


I believe that rights carry concomitant responsibilities. The Founders knew this. Unfortunately, they assumed this knowledge would pass on down through the generations. It has not. I think a Civics quiz would be a very good thing to require for voting. Most people have no effing idea what they vote for. This ignorance affects far more than just them. The ignorance and apathy of many voters is appalling.

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Apr 21, 2024 22:50:00   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
I hope that other time comes soon. I would like to know who you think should rule and who should be allowed to vote. Are you suggesting civics quizzes must be passed in order to vote? A return to poll taxes or worse?


If passing civics quizzes becomes a requirement to vote, with the present state of the Republican party it's likely there would be no worries about GOP control of Congress or WH for a long while. Dems would rule.

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Apr 21, 2024 23:07:58   #
stephanie wilson Loc: West Chicago, IL
 
Parky60 wrote:
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck Schumer. Nancy Pelosi. The United States Congress.

The American people have nobody to blame but themselves.

It’s called “democracy.”

It may be surprising to us, but there have been thinkers down through history who didn’t believe democracy is the optimal system of government. Here is a quotation from one of them:

“Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would at the same time be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.”

This same writer also penned this:

“Democracy is the [vilest] form of government.”

Most Americans would think such heretical words had to have been written by Adolf Hitler or Joseph Stalin or Attila the Hun, or some such tyrannical megalomaniac. Nancy Pelosi and all the leftists on OPP would probably say Donald Trump wrote them. But actually, the author of those sentiments was James Madison, the man given most of the credit for writing our Constitution. Yes, THAT James Madison.

Now go back and read again, more carefully, what he wrote.

As strange as it may sound for an American in the 21st century to be saying this, there are actually some sound arguments against democracy. I can support Madison’s thesis in many ways. Look at the list I started with. Add Kamala Harris. Barak Obama. Bill Clinton. And Hillary. Two George Bushes. Jimmy Carter. Not to mention Adam Schiff, Lindsey Graham, California, the whole Democratic Party, all leftists on OPP and you can add your own. I think this is (partially) what Mr. Madison had in mind. Occasionally, democracy does give us a Reagan or Trump, but that is the exception not the rule. Maybe once a generation.

By the way, just as an aside, Madison also said, “Disarm the people—that is the best and most effective way to enslave them.” Adolf Hitler DID agree with that. As did Joseph Stalin. And Mao Zedong. Joe Biden. Hopefully, Republicans won’t let that happen, but don’t take it to the bank.

Actually, in American history—and this is extremely important—democracy has been a gradual development. Women suffrage was put in the Constitution in 1920, though many could vote before that date. Many minorities were denied the vote until the Voting Rights Act of 1965. 18-year-olds in 1971. Those are huge segments of the American population, well over 50%. In one significant sense, we could say the United States “democracy” is barely 100 years old.

An anecdote. Author Mark Lewis is (was) an historian by trade and he spent about 25 years teaching history to college students, mostly 18-year-old freshmen, mostly Americans. One semester, he decided he would begin by giving the students a “pre-semester (non-credit) exam” on American history and culture. One of the multiple-choice questions was, “What is Jennifer Lopez known for?” Another of the questions was, “According to our Founding Fathers, what is the purpose of government?” Of the 30 or so students in that class, every single student knew that Jennifer Lopez is famous for her big butt. Not one student knew the purpose of government according to our Founding Fathers (to protect property). That class was in California (c. 2005). He tried.

These are the people we let choose our leaders now. And for the next generation. It’s probably already hopeless, folks.

While the above is anecdotal, it probably isn’t uncommon in America. And it explains exactly why so many mediocre, incompetent people have been elected to office. Give Evil and Mediocrity the vote and don’t be surprised if Evil and Mediocrity are elected. Madison would surely agree with that sentiment.

“In the U.S., [just over a century] of full-blown democracy has resulted in steadily increasing moral degeneration, family and social disintegration, and cultural decay in the form of continually rising rates of divorce, illegitimacy, abortion, and crime.” (Hans-Hermann Hoppe, “Democracy: The God That Failed”). Madison would no doubt have expected that, too.

“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide,” John Adams, our second President. Note his belief that democracies “murder themselves” and “commit suicide.” Does that describe what America is doing today?

Our “democracy” is not 250 years old; it has barely reached 100. What will the next 100 years bring? Will there even be a next 100 years?

A democratic republic can only survive if the vast majority of people are moral, honorable, trustworthy, law-abiding, family-oriented, and patriotic. And the Uniparty in Congress is making sure that more and more Americans have less and less of those qualities. Because they don’t want democracy (they would lose), they want tyranny.

I wish Madison and Adams could come back to life and see America today. I know EXACTLY what they would say:

“We told you so.”

If our Founders didn’t establish a “democracy,” what DID they establish? Yes, a republic, but if the “people” are incompetent to rule, who should? We’ll save that for another time. And as always, the Founders’ true system is actually brilliant.

When stupidity and evil surpass wisdom and virtue among a people, democracy becomes the worst form of government possible.

Our failure to listen to history might cause our ultimate downfall.
Mike Johnson. Mitch McConnell. Joe Biden. Chuck... (show quote)

I love his article, except the comparison of Bush 43 to DemocRats. He was more like Reagan than he's given credit for. Now I also think Trump is too. #Trump2024ToSaveAmerica



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Apr 21, 2024 23:12:01   #
Lily
 
NotMAGA wrote:
If passing civics quizzes becomes a requirement to vote, with the present state of the Republican party it's likely there would be no worries about GOP control of Congress or WH for a long while. Dems would rule.


Just when I was thinking you might be one of those nice Democrats you prove you are big fat hateful b*t*ch!!!!!!!!!

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Apr 21, 2024 23:15:36   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
NotMAGA wrote:
If passing civics quizzes becomes a requirement to vote, with the present state of the Republican party it's likely there would be no worries about GOP control of Congress or WH for a long while. Dems would rule.


I have an idea for the quiz. I, even know who will not pass.

One question. Show, in the US Constitution, the phrase separation of church and state. It would eliminate 90% of the Democrats vote.

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Apr 21, 2024 23:27:17   #
stephanie wilson Loc: West Chicago, IL
 
Airforceone wrote:
YOU ARE A VERY SICK AND PERVERTED PERSON. I HOPE NOBODY AGREES WITH YOUR CONVOLUTED WAY OF THINKING. BUT AMERICANS MUST PRAY FOR THE STUPID. I WILL PRAY FOR YOU.

Answer this question how did the United States of America become the riches country in the world, the smartest country in the world and controls the largest military in the world. Was it because of your stupidity msybe think about that.



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Apr 21, 2024 23:30:36   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Lily wrote:
Just when I was thinking you might be one of those nice Democrats you prove you are big fat hateful b*t*ch!!!!!!!!!


Lily you have been pretty snarky to me all weekend.
But what I said, I meant. The Republican party seems to be, with some exceptions, people with not a lot of interest in history or knowing how the federal government works or what is in our founding documents including the Constitution.

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Apr 21, 2024 23:37:26   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Lily you have been pretty snarky to me all weekend.
But what I said, I meant. The Republican party seems to be, with some exceptions, people with not a lot of interest in history or knowing how the federal government works or what is in our founding documents including the Constitution.


That is a very broad generalization, somewhat like saying they are all uneducated, redneck, Bible thumping gun toters.

As another generalization, it is not Democrats, on OPP, who most often cite the Constitution. Definitely do not try it with Smedley. He will not only hand you the Constitution, he will cite multiple SCOTUS cases, and he is just some guy from Georgia.

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Apr 21, 2024 23:40:04   #
Lily
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Lily you have been pretty snarky to me all weekend.
But what I said, I meant. The Republican party seems to be, with some exceptions, people with not a lot of interest in history or knowing how the federal government works or what is in our founding documents including the Constitution.


Snarky is different than pretending you are better and more educated than a whole political party. Just plain old sanctimonious b*t*c*.

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Apr 21, 2024 23:43:37   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
AuntiE wrote:
That is a very broad generalization, somewhat like saying they are all uneducated, redneck, Bible thumping gun toters.

As another generalization, it is not Democrats, on OPP, who most often cite the Constitution. Definitely do not try it with Smedley. He will not only hand you the Constitution, he will cite multiple SCOTUS cases, and he is just some guy from Georgia.


Would not dare, AuntiE, nor with you. 😊
As mentioned, there are exceptions to every rule. But as many here have commented, "most colleges" are more liberal than conservative. Logically speaking, if education level dictates electoral participation then college grads would be more likely to be allowed to vote. If colleges are liberal institutions, grads tend to be Dems. If A = B and B = C, then A usually = C as well. 😉

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