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Apr 17, 2024 16:02:01   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
The Bible also says women shouldn't be allowed to speak in front of the church but many, like the UMC, say that is wrong. Should we follow the entirety of the bible isn all things? Everyone is responsible for what they do, not their parents nor their ancestors.


Now the Bible is a history of how humanity matured. How it matured in faith, knowledge, reason, and wisdom.

There will be therefore rules that applied when humanity was at a point of that maturity, when mankind grew more mature then the old laws were no longer necessary, as St Paul the apostle said, "When I was a child, I thought like a child, I acted like a child, but when I became a man, I put away childish things."

Thus, by example the bible follows this precedence. So when the old testament is combined by the completeness of the new, the boy at Genesis, that needs guidance, becomes a man, that is self governing. This becomes with in human history and as asense of utopia, with the absence of mass control. For the control is established by the harmony of the nature of the human spirit.

Looking at the point of slavery which existed because the line of Cain practiced it, which it learned from the angels. But slavery is a tool used against the nature of the human nature. Slavery began due to the jealously of the angels which they taught to man, and the half angels or demi gods, these demi gods became demons after they died.

Therefore to justly charge for reparations of the slaves, and if you follow the precedence and premise of your question, the responsible must be held accountable for the sin. Since the sin started with the angels, or the devil...evil angels....then prey I ask the question, how do you hold these creatures responsible and how do you make them pay for thier sins since judgment has already been done?

Thus, the only thing we can do, is hold each person responsible and accountable for thier own acts. That being said, the principle is, if one is held to account then all are held to account. Therefore, the jews, the whites, the blacks, and everyone in-between were at one time or another, slaves.

Where one can only be truly free, when one is the slave of God the Almighty. Who taught humanity how to be free and promotes self governance.

Through wisdom, reason and knowledge, with hope, faith and love is the only way to achieve this self governance.

As was shown in the Bible, which is the basis of the constitution, and also seen in the constitution as man continues to mature, each human being therefore has free will, therefore the restriction of a man being a man, and a woman being a woman, shall not be infringed upon....either way. Thus, in my opinion, Jesus Christ was all those years ago, the first American!

Thus His teachings apply in all things today. But it took 2000 years of suffering for these true ideas to take hold.

That is my reply. Do with it as you wish.

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Apr 17, 2024 16:44:42   #
Big Kahuna
 
Jim0001 wrote:
I agree to pay reparations to all the slaves I've owned. They just need to step forward!


I would also like to see all the dead voters who voted demorat to step forward also.

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Apr 17, 2024 17:03:04   #
Unintended Consequences
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
I am not responsible for reparations. Period. My ancestors came to America after those times. And since those times there have been countless examples of giving favoritism to those whose ancestors were victims of those bad times. And many who weren't and still had those advantages offered to them. Those people are all responsible for not making the maximum of those extra advantages offered to them and their ancestors. Just as those that might have had more favorable advantages offered to them because of their ancestry, were responsible for how they used them. It balances over time and if you or your ancestors did not take advantage to what was available to them, it is there faults, and your hard luck, and not my responsibility. Now act like an adult, stand on your own two feet, and make the best of yourself on your own. There is no such rational thing as equity and DEI is better spelled DIE as it will cause a free society where the best can achieve their best, to DIE.
I am not responsible for reparations. Period. My a... (show quote)


No you are not responsible for what your or my ancestors did, but if one of "those people" moved into your neighborhood, would you like so many before you, move still further out of the city? America first, you say, but you feel no responsibility for making America a place wher every citizen is accepted. America will not become great by going back to the 50's. When I grew up. my neighborhood was all white; everyone went to some church. That's not where we are today; white people will soon be in the minority. Fixing border policies is not going to fix that. Trump cannot fix that reality. There is no way he can tell half the country to go home when they are home. So instead of railing about crime in the cities and how terrible the demorats are, ask yourself what you are doing to make America great again.

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Apr 17, 2024 17:36:55   #
Proud American Patriot
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
I am not responsible for reparations. Period. My ancestors came to America after those times. And since those times there have been countless examples of giving favoritism to those whose ancestors were victims of those bad times. And many who weren't and still had those advantages offered to them. Those people are all responsible for not making the maximum of those extra advantages offered to them and their ancestors. Just as those that might have had more favorable advantages offered to them because of their ancestry, were responsible for how they used them. It balances over time and if you or your ancestors did not take advantage to what was available to them, it is there faults, and your hard luck, and not my responsibility. Now act like an adult, stand on your own two feet, and make the best of yourself on your own. There is no such rational thing as equity and DEI is better spelled DIE as it will cause a free society where the best can achieve their best, to DIE.
I am not responsible for reparations. Period. My a... (show quote)


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Apr 17, 2024 17:42:54   #
Big Kahuna
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
No you are not responsible for what your or my ancestors did, but if one of "those people" moved into your neighborhood, would you like so many before you, move still further out of the city? America first, you say, but you feel no responsibility for making America a place wher every citizen is accepted. America will not become great by going back to the 50's. When I grew up. my neighborhood was all white; everyone went to some church. That's not where we are today; white people will soon be in the minority. Fixing border policies is not going to fix that. Trump cannot fix that reality. There is no way he can tell half the country to go home when they are home. So instead of railing about crime in the cities and how terrible the demorats are, ask yourself what you are doing to make America great again.
No you are not responsible for what your or my anc... (show quote)


Yes, and the ovommits moved out of a black neighborhood because they knew what their black brothers were like. They like Martha's Vineyard much better since they are surrounded by White people. We certainly know slo pedo joe and his corrupt demorats are not making America great.

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Apr 17, 2024 18:20:34   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Now the Bible is a history of how humanity matured. How it matured in faith, knowledge, reason, and wisdom.

There will be therefore rules that applied when humanity was at a point of that maturity, when mankind grew more mature then the old laws were no longer necessary, as St Paul the apostle said, "When I was a child, I thought like a child, I acted like a child, but when I became a man, I put away childish things."

Thus, by example the bible follows this precedence. So when the old testament is combined by the completeness of the new, the boy at Genesis, that needs guidance, becomes a man, that is self governing. This becomes with in human history and as asense of utopia, with the absence of mass control. For the control is established by the harmony of the nature of the human spirit.

Looking at the point of slavery which existed because the line of Cain practiced it, which it learned from the angels. But slavery is a tool used against the nature of the human nature. Slavery began due to the jealously of the angels which they taught to man, and the half angels or demi gods, these demi gods became demons after they died.

Therefore to justly charge for reparations of the slaves, and if you follow the precedence and premise of your question, the responsible must be held accountable for the sin. Since the sin started with the angels, or the devil...evil angels....then prey I ask the question, how do you hold these creatures responsible and how do you make them pay for thier sins since judgment has already been done?

Thus, the only thing we can do, is hold each person responsible and accountable for thier own acts. That being said, the principle is, if one is held to account then all are held to account. Therefore, the jews, the whites, the blacks, and everyone in-between were at one time or another, slaves.

Where one can only be truly free, when one is the slave of God the Almighty. Who taught humanity how to be free and promotes self governance.

Through wisdom, reason and knowledge, with hope, faith and love is the only way to achieve this self governance.

As was shown in the Bible, which is the basis of the constitution, and also seen in the constitution as man continues to mature, each human being therefore has free will, therefore the restriction of a man being a man, and a woman being a woman, shall not be infringed upon....either way. Thus, in my opinion, Jesus Christ was all those years ago, the first American!

Thus His teachings apply in all things today. But it took 2000 years of suffering for these true ideas to take hold.

That is my reply. Do with it as you wish.
Now the Bible is a history of how humanity matured... (show quote)


I see nothing inconsistent with your comment. I have never seen the Bible as the literal word of God nor have I ever taken it literally. But many do. There is a movement of churches leaving the UMC and joining the WMC, which is very strict and conservative. We attend a branch of the big one in Highland Park Dallas and the preacher actually concluded that Paul was wrong in his words to Timothy about women speaking in front of the church.

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Apr 17, 2024 18:21:26   #
Proud American Patriot
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Yes, and the ovommits moved out of a black neighborhood because they knew what their black brothers were like. They like Martha's Vineyard much better since they are surrounded by White people. We certainly know slo pedo joe and his corrupt demorats are not making America great.


Also note, Ovomit like no other president bought a residence in DC just around the corner from the White House. No motive there I'm sure. Just because he stated in a televised interview that if he can stay in the basement and give the orders he would do a third term. (Not a verbatim quote) Hence puppet Obiden arrives on the scene demented, crooked and the slime he always has been.

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Apr 17, 2024 18:27:23   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
No you are not responsible for what your or my ancestors did, but if one of "those people" moved into your neighborhood, would you like so many before you, move still further out of the city? America first, you say, but you feel no responsibility for making America a place wher every citizen is accepted. America will not become great by going back to the 50's. When I grew up. my neighborhood was all white; everyone went to some church. That's not where we are today; white people will soon be in the minority. Fixing border policies is not going to fix that. Trump cannot fix that reality. There is no way he can tell half the country to go home when they are home. So instead of railing about crime in the cities and how terrible the demorats are, ask yourself what you are doing to make America great again.
No you are not responsible for what your or my anc... (show quote)


Where every CITIZEN is accepted. So, if I just move into your house, and make myself at home, it would be wrong for you to kick me out, because I'm in my home. Right?
Send me your address. I wanna take your benevolence for a test drive.

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Apr 17, 2024 18:49:00   #
Big Kahuna
 
Proud American Patriot wrote:
Also note, Ovomit like no other president bought a residence in DC just around the corner from the White House. No motive there I'm sure. Just because he stated in a televised interview that if he can stay in the basement and give the orders he would do a third term. (Not a verbatim quote) Hence puppet Obiden arrives on the scene demented, crooked and the slime he always has been.


Take that fake mask off that Bribem wears and you have Bathhouse Barry. We always knew ovommit was 2-faced.



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Apr 17, 2024 18:51:14   #
Big Kahuna
 
archie bunker wrote:
Where every CITIZEN is accepted. So, if I just move into your house, and make myself at home, it would be wrong for you to kick me out, because I'm in my home. Right?
Send me your address. I wanna take your benevolence for a test drive.


That makes 2 of us and I have 35 other family members that would want that ride also. Unintended should have a house warming for all of us.

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Apr 17, 2024 19:19:19   #
Proud American Patriot
 
archie bunker wrote:
Where every CITIZEN is accepted. So, if I just move into your house, and make myself at home, it would be wrong for you to kick me out, because I'm in my home. Right?
Send me your address. I wanna take your benevolence for a test drive.


Nice. Would we also be invited?

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Apr 17, 2024 19:19:53   #
Proud American Patriot
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Take that fake mask off that Bribem wears and you have Bathhouse Barry. We always knew ovommit was 2-faced.


We sure do.

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Apr 17, 2024 19:20:31   #
Proud American Patriot
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
That makes 2 of us and I have 35 other family members that would want that ride also. Unintended should have a house warming for all of us.


I'll travel.

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Apr 17, 2024 19:28:40   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
That makes 2 of us and I have 35 other family members that would want that ride also. Unintended should have a house warming for all of us.


I would even recieve mail there the day I moved in. Addressed to "current resident".

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Apr 17, 2024 20:19:10   #
Big Kahuna
 
archie bunker wrote:
I would even recieve mail there the day I moved in. Addressed to "current resident".


Then we could claim squatters rights and kick Unintended out of the house that is now ours.

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