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Apr 16, 2024 20:39:17   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Parky60 wrote:
Well I have heard stories about a "Swede in the wood pile" although I'm one-half Lithuanian and one-half British.


They don't come much whiter than that. You should be ponying up some bucks for your excessive whiteness.

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Apr 16, 2024 20:42:39   #
Bassman65
 
archie bunker wrote:
Or, my great grandfather? My grandfather? My father?
Let's say that I did some sketchy stuff when I was young, and have turned around, and am now an honest, upstanding, hard working,
taxpaying family man. Is my past still to be held against me?


No, the past is the past Archie,we are responsible for our current actions not our behavior in the past. I was a 18 year old sailor and did some pretty stupid things, but now I’m a father and a grandfather, I’ve retired and obviously am not that stupid kid.

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Apr 16, 2024 21:25:18   #
pescado rojo
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
I am not responsible for reparations. Period. My ancestors came to America after those times. And since those times there have been countless examples of giving favoritism to those whose ancestors were victims of those bad times. And many who weren't and still had those advantages offered to them. Those people are all responsible for not making the maximum of those extra advantages offered to them and their ancestors. Just as those that might have had more favorable advantages offered to them because of their ancestry, were responsible for how they used them. It balances over time and if you or your ancestors did not take advantage to what was available to them, it is there faults, and your hard luck, and not my responsibility. Now act like an adult, stand on your own two feet, and make the best of yourself on your own. There is no such rational thing as equity and DEI is better spelled DIE as it will cause a free society where the best can achieve their best, to DIE.
I am not responsible for reparations. Period. My a... (show quote)


Since some of my ancestors owned slaves, and others WERE slaves, I have decided, as a said before, to just write myself a reparations check and call it even.

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Apr 16, 2024 21:27:09   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
pescado rojo wrote:
Since some of my ancestors owned slaves, and others WERE slaves, I have decided, as a said before, to just write myself a reparations check and call it even.


Can you bounce one off of me while you're at it?

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Apr 16, 2024 22:00:43   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Parky60 wrote:
I'm only a second generation American so I don't owe anybody CRAP!


Worked doggone hard for what you have I'll bet .

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Apr 16, 2024 22:08:56   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
archie bunker wrote:
They don't come much whiter than that. You should be ponying up some bucks for your excessive whiteness.


He could be a Swegro

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Apr 16, 2024 22:16:17   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
pescado rojo wrote:
Since some of my ancestors owned slaves, and others WERE slaves, I have decided, as a said before, to just write myself a reparations check and call it even.


I could go along with that . get this--My German ancestors came to what is now New York as slaves . Some of the young women were bred with African men to produce Mullattos which were the most valuable slave . My DNA as taken from 2 cousins and my brother shows our blood line to have African ancestery from Benin -Togo--Mali -- Ghana-- and Ivory coast . . I am 4% African . I think it is cool especially since a great many of my family were Confederates

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Apr 16, 2024 22:24:12   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I could go along with that . get this--My German ancestors came to what is now New York as slaves . Some of the young women were bred with African men to produce Mullattos which were the most valuable slave . My DNA as taken from 2 cousins and my brother shows our blood line to have African ancestery from Benin -Togo--Mali -- Ghana-- and Ivory coast . . I am 4% African . I think it is cool especially since a great many of my family were Confederates


You still owe somebody somewhere something!

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Apr 16, 2024 22:24:26   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I could go along with that . get this--My German ancestors came to what is now New York as slaves . Some of the young women were bred with African men to produce Mullattos which were the most valuable slave . My DNA as taken from 2 cousins and my brother shows our blood line to have African ancestery from Benin -Togo--Mali -- Ghana-- and Ivory coast . . I am 4% African . I think it is cool especially since a great many of my family were Confederates


Just an FYI, Tom.
If you're using high thread count sheets for your hood, Faultless Spray Starch with the iron set on high makes it stand up best.
I prefer high thread count myself, because I'm sensitive.

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Apr 16, 2024 22:35:02   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
AuntiE wrote:
You still owe somebody somewhere something!
I gave my pop cans to a homeless White boy yesterday so I'm covered .


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Apr 16, 2024 22:36:42   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
archie bunker wrote:
Just an FYI, Tom.
If you're using high thread count sheets for your hood, Faultless Spray Starch with the iron set on high makes it stand up best.
I prefer high thread count myself, because I'm sensitive.


Helps disguise my ape like appearance too ----

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Apr 16, 2024 22:42:17   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I gave my pop cans to a homeless White boy yesterday so I'm covered .



Good way to recycle!

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Apr 16, 2024 23:44:23   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
archie bunker wrote:
Or, my great grandfather? My grandfather? My father?
Let's say that I did some sketchy stuff when I was young, and have turned around, and am now an honest, upstanding, hard working,
taxpaying family man. Is my past still to be held against me?


There was a time in biblical times when you were held to account for what your family did, until the 7th generation......however we are not living in those days.

Every person is responsible for the good and bad they do in this world and it would be completely unfair to charge them with crimes of thier forefathers or descendants.

Parents are responsible for thier children, until thier children reach the age and mentality of an adult, which occurs between 18 and 25.

Although love transcends time, and therefore hate does too, a person is only held to acount for what they can do, and what they have done. And since praise and guilt are part of love and hate, the individual may hold themselves accountable, but that is not necessary. You are responsible for your own actions or inactions.

Nothing more and nothing less.

It is what it is.

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Apr 17, 2024 06:47:42   #
Big dog
 
archie bunker wrote:
Or, my great grandfather? My grandfather? My father?
Let's say that I did some sketchy stuff when I was young, and have turned around, and am now an honest, upstanding, hard working,
taxpaying family man. Is my past still to be held against me?


I remember a line from a book (sci-fi) where the aliens were asked why they were so lazy. They answered “our father toiled, now we are tired”.

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Apr 17, 2024 06:56:29   #
Big Kahuna
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
I am not responsible for reparations. Period. My ancestors came to America after those times. And since those times there have been countless examples of giving favoritism to those whose ancestors were victims of those bad times. And many who weren't and still had those advantages offered to them. Those people are all responsible for not making the maximum of those extra advantages offered to them and their ancestors. Just as those that might have had more favorable advantages offered to them because of their ancestry, were responsible for how they used them. It balances over time and if you or your ancestors did not take advantage to what was available to them, it is there faults, and your hard luck, and not my responsibility. Now act like an adult, stand on your own two feet, and make the best of yourself on your own. There is no such rational thing as equity and DEI is better spelled DIE as it will cause a free society where the best can achieve their best, to DIE.
I am not responsible for reparations. Period. My a... (show quote)


It is amazing how blacks in the U.S. cry for reparations when they have the best standard of living in the world with the greatest chance to elevate their financial status. Many blacks have far more than a lot of Whites. I don't hear about reparations in any other countries that had black slaves brought to their country. Has anyone heard of blacks in any Muslim country complaining about reparations for the biggest slave traders in the world?? Can anyone even explain why blacks gravitate to a religion that pushed the slave trade to the max and to this day still have slaves? Can anyone explain why blacks can't seem to understand that the U.S. and Britain were 2 of the 1st countries to outlaw slavery?? In fact the Brits had to force Nigeria to stop it's slave trading ways. The insanity of reparations is just that, insanity.

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