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Apr 12, 2024 08:57:57   #
LindaK
 
Darling Mary wrote:
Scheme to Eliminate Electoral College 76 Percent Complete
Last week, the state legislature of Maine became the 17th in the nation to pass a bill that will effectively eliminate the Electoral College.
Unbeknownst to most people, there is a serious effort in this country to make the presidential election a simple popular vote. And even though most people have never heard about this effort, it’s actually already 76 percent complete—meaning that the Electoral College is truly at risk of getting completely scrapped in the near future.
This effort is officially called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. And what it basically is, is an agreement between the states that join to give their electoral votes to whichever candidate wins the popular vote at the national level. This movement will be blown out of the water by the SCOTUS. It takes an Amendment to the Constitution to accomplish such a scheme!!!
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I had never heard/read of their ‘work around scheme’ on this issue. Thank you for bringing it here to share.

On other issues we have already seen how willing they have been to violate USSC decisions (like ignoring the unconstitutional student loan decision and more.). Sounds like Biden really is taking obama’s ‘fundamental transformation’ of America seriously.

With as often as Biden has been not honoring our US Constitutional rights; ignoring our USSC decisions, it shouldn’t be a surprise that this administration and the blue states will continue to ignore our Constitution once again by not honoring this issue through the normal way that is how America has had to go through to make an amendment and now how the SCOTUS decides this case when/if it reaches them. Our nation was never established as a democracy, we are a Constitutional Republic (if we can keep it’).

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Apr 12, 2024 09:34:36   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
Kevyn wrote:
Actually this is a clean workaround, the states run the elections and can already determine how electoral votes are allotted. An interstate agreement would be entirely within our constitution.


For the first time, I think ever, I agree with Kevyn. There is nothing in The Constitution that describes how a state must cast its electoral votes. It doesn't even require the state to have an election. The legislature can just assign its electors to one candidate.

The one candidate takes all approach is a tradition that I've always questioned. I think Maine's current system of assigning two electors to the majority winner, corresponding to its senators and the remainder to the winner of each the congressional district is a good solution but it is entirely up to the state itself.

As it is, the six top states, California, Texas, Florida, New York, Pennsylvania & Illinois have 191 votes, needing only 79 more for a candidate to win. It is good to remember that the Founders were very afraid of the largest states of the time, New York, Pennsylvania, Virginia & Massachusetts, dominating federal affairs.

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Apr 12, 2024 15:30:30   #
Salvatore
 
Kevyn
Another stupid comment coming from an Anti-American! Why don't we just let NY State and California determine the President every four years! Then we can be a Communist Country quicker than stink on manure!

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Apr 12, 2024 16:05:17   #
WEBCO
 
LindaK wrote:
Biden has no ‘negotiation’ skills, instead he works to appease our known enemies like Iran by making it possible for them to fund terrorism. Don’t tell me those funds belonged to them. Biden unfroze their frozen funds which gave their nations the ability to use those funds to support terrorism like the HAMAS terrorists and those who voted to put Hamas in power.

Also his and Hunters ‘friends’ in power in the Ukraine too. It’s cost taxpayers multi-millions of their hard earned money. Pelosi and Biden pledged the funds to the Ukrainian beggar for as long as their war with the Russia lasts. He protects their border but refuses to protect our own. The US has pretty much been funding the Ukrainian war with Russia and it’s not even our war.
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Biden has also allowed to sell about $5 billion a month in oil, which they aren't supposed to do, under sanction.

We've actually given $billions to the Ukraine

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Apr 12, 2024 21:15:04   #
pegw
 
I am totally in favor of eliminating the electoral college. It may have been a good idea at the time if inception, but is now causing the minority of voters to elect a president. This happened with Trump. and both Bushs.

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Apr 12, 2024 21:45:05   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
pegw wrote:
I am totally in favor of eliminating the electoral college. It may have been a good idea at the time if inception, but is now causing the minority of voters to elect a president. This happened with Trump. and both Bushs.


We're not at all surprised jerks like you Leftist have little respect for the Constitution. Why don't we have a war every 4 years to determine the President? You can send your girlie boy transgenders to fight against our male warriors. It'd be just as fair as what you propose.

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Apr 13, 2024 01:16:16   #
Radiance3
 
Darling Mary wrote:
Scheme to Eliminate Electoral College 76 Percent Complete
Last week, the state legislature of Maine became the 17th in the nation to pass a bill that will effectively eliminate the Electoral College.
Unbeknownst to most people, there is a serious effort in this country to make the presidential election a simple popular vote. And even though most people have never heard about this effort, it’s actually already 76 percent complete—meaning that the Electoral College is truly at risk of getting completely scrapped in the near future.
This effort is officially called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. And what it basically is, is an agreement between the states that join to give their electoral votes to whichever candidate wins the popular vote at the national level. This movement will be blown out of the water by the SCOTUS. It takes an Amendment to the Constitution to accomplish such a scheme!!!
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A violation of the Constitution. Elimination of the electoral college will ensure the Marxist-Democrats win election all the time.

What happens is all the biggest populated states could decide the victory. And those states are mostly populated by the Marxist democrats.

In addition, it denies and violates the rights of the smaller states to participate in the electoral process of the president of the United States.

This violates the Constitution of the US, Article 11 section 1 for selecting Electors to decide. All 50 states must participate in this process.

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

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Apr 13, 2024 03:12:51   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Darling Mary wrote:
Scheme to Eliminate Electoral College 76 Percent Complete
Last week, the state legislature of Maine became the 17th in the nation to pass a bill that will effectively eliminate the Electoral College.
Unbeknownst to most people, there is a serious effort in this country to make the presidential election a simple popular vote. And even though most people have never heard about this effort, it’s actually already 76 percent complete—meaning that the Electoral College is truly at risk of getting completely scrapped in the near future.
This effort is officially called the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. And what it basically is, is an agreement between the states that join to give their electoral votes to whichever candidate wins the popular vote at the national level. This movement will be blown out of the water by the SCOTUS. It takes an Amendment to the Constitution to accomplish such a scheme!!!
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People forget that the reason we are a Representative Republic, not a raw democracy of mob rule, is to maintain minority rights.

Abe Lincoln "came in on a dark horse" meaning he lost the popular vote but won the Electoral College.

The popular vote (being majority rule), would have continued slavery under the Kansas Nebraska Act.

Be careful for what you wish for. We are all born free as we are made in God's image. God gave each and every one of us the gift of individual sovereignty.

The depth of human envy and arrogance has been suffered long enough.

Once we get the Democrat socialists out of office for good, the currency wars that rob us of our time and labor will stop.

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Apr 13, 2024 16:51:04   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
Kevyn wrote:
Actually this is a clean workaround, the states run the elections and can already determine how electoral votes are allotted. An interstate agreement would be entirely within our constitution.


Queervyn, the states run state elections anyway they want to, but Federal elections are run according to the US Constitution. This BS "work around" will start Civil War part 2, IMHO, and I don't want to see that happening. People like you have a lot of balls saying President Trump is a danger to democracy.when it's F. Joe Biden, the DNC and the entire Democrat party that's the real danger to democracy.

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Apr 13, 2024 16:57:40   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
People forget that the reason we are a Representative Republic, not a raw democracy of mob rule, is to maintain minority rights.

Abe Lincoln "came in on a dark horse" meaning he lost the popular vote but won the Electoral College.

The popular vote (being majority rule), would have continued slavery under the Kansas Nebraska Act.

Be careful for what you wish for. We are all born free as we are made in God's image. God gave each and every one of us the gift of individual sovereignty.

The depth of human envy and arrogance has been suffered long enough.

Once we get the Democrat socialists out of office for good, the currency wars that rob us of our time and labor will stop.
People forget that the reason we are a Representat... (show quote)


CounterRevolutionary, every so often, the tree of liberty needs to be watered. That day may be near, I fear.

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Apr 15, 2024 00:03:42   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
CounterRevolutionary, every so often, the tree of liberty needs to be watered. That day may be near, I fear.


The "Tree of Liberty" needs to be watered with water, not blood.

By states deciding to deputize their citizens and police to arrest Illegal Aliens, round-up time may solve the problem with no struggle.

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Apr 15, 2024 10:27:01   #
LiberalGrammyD
 
billlingle wrote:
SCOTUS is not involved in amending the constitution. An amendment is really not needed. All the would be required would be an agreement to award the electoral votes to the winner of the popular vote by the swing states. If SCOTUS didn't like it that would be a shame but it would be meaningless.
Right wingers may be delusional but they're not totally stupid. They know that with their main objectives being disapproved by 60, 70 and 80% of the country that they can't possibly win anything in an open election.
Two out of the last three republican presidents did not win the popular vote but still took office and did near irreparable damage to everything. Thanks to Joe Biden and his knowledge of government and legislation not to mention negotiation, we have just about returned to normal after the debacle of the Fat incompetent Loser.
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Apr 15, 2024 14:23:42   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
CounterRevolutionary wrote:
The "Tree of Liberty" needs to be watered with water, not blood.

By states deciding to deputize their citizens and police to arrest Illegal Aliens, round-up time may solve the problem with no struggle.



CounterRevolutionary, Thomas Jefferson said
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"
These criminal illegal aliens are neither patriots and tyrants.

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Apr 15, 2024 15:44:00   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
CounterRevolutionary, Thomas Jefferson said
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"
These criminal illegal aliens are neither patriots and tyrants.


Maybe so, but the Japanese hesitated attacking our mainland during WW2 fully knowing there was a gun behind every blade of grass.

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