Is NATO obsolete? And is Putin a threat? (Page 2): And it cost them dearly. "Other than the US, the top five countries to send troops to the war in Afghanistan were the United Kingdom...

NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county

American Vet wrote:

Quite obviously many countries had an interest in the 'War Against Terror'. They were 'helping' themselves as much as they were helping others.

And it cost them dearly.

"Other than the US, the top five countries to send troops to the war in Afghanistan were the United Kingdom, Germany, France, Italy, and Canada. The United Kingdom in particular supplied roughly two to three times the troops of the other top contributing allies when considered relative to its population. British and Canadian troops put their lives at risk at twice the rate of American troops, when seen as a percentage of each country’s peak deployment. The top contributing allies lost over a thousand lives in the U.S.-led conflicts in Afghanistan and Iraq.

When measured as a percentage of their annual baseline military expenditures, the United Kingdom and Canada spent roughly half as much on Afghanistan as the United States. And when measured in terms relative to their respective Gross Domestic Products (GDPs), the U.S. provided less foreign aid than did the U.K., and about the same amount as Germany and Canada.

Western allies' primary interest in making their significant contributions was not their own security, but cementing their relationships with the U.S."

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/node/741

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

LogicallyRight wrote:

***Is NATO obsolete?
>>>Yes
***And is Putin a threat?
>>>No
Is NATO a threat? Yes

Ditto
Ditto
Ditto

NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county

Closed minds... Unwilling to see

American Vet

NotMAGA wrote:

And it cost them dearly. br br br br "Othe... (show quote)

Thank you for reinforcing my comment.

pegw

NotMAGA wrote:

Ask the NATO country closest to Russia. br br ‘Al... (show quote)

Before Trump was president, NATO seemed to maybe a bit obsolete, then Putin invaded Ukraine and promised to go into eastern Europe. Did you notice how quickly Finland and Sweden joined up after Putin's invasion?

martsiva

NotMAGA wrote:

Because you think so doesn't make it so. I don't believe you know Putin personally.

Do you know Putin personally?? Do you actually think Putin would deliberately attack a NATO country to bring destruction down on his own country??

martsiva

NotMAGA wrote:

Do any of you remember when NATO countries came to OUR aid after 9/11?

Or is this a case of collective amnesia?

Tell us how NATO came to our aid after 911!!

martsiva

NotMAGA wrote:

So, amnesia then.

Some of the NATO countries even helped in the War against Terror - in Iraq.

They didn't have to. We didn't even ask them to. They just did. Maybe they considered it all part of the response to 9/11.

The US was not the only country who lost lives in Iraq and Afghanistan.

How much is one human life worth?

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_51977.htm

Iraq?? Iraq had NOTHING to do with 911!! The Iraq war was a war built on lies of WMDs!! Try again!!

martsiva

pegw wrote:

Before Trump was president, NATO seemed to maybe a bit obsolete, then Putin invaded Ukraine and promised to go into eastern Europe. Did you notice how quickly Finland and Sweden joined up after Putin's invasion?

YOU point out where Putin promised to go into Eastern Europe!!

NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county

pegw wrote:

Before Trump was president, NATO seemed to maybe a bit obsolete, then Putin invaded Ukraine and promised to go into eastern Europe. Did you notice how quickly Finland and Sweden joined up after Putin's invasion?

I did.

My son (the Marine) says Sweden is "one of the 'cool kids' in the block" now. 😊

BIRDMAN

NotMAGA wrote:

So, amnesia then.

Some of the NATO countries even helped in the War against Terror - in Iraq.

They didn't have to. We didn't even ask them to. They just did. Maybe they considered it all part of the response to 9/11.

The US was not the only country who lost lives in Iraq and Afghanistan.

How much is one human life worth?

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_51977.htm

So they helped us destroy a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. Is that what you’re saying.

WEBCO

pegw wrote:

Before Trump was president, NATO seemed to maybe a bit obsolete, then Putin invaded Ukraine and promised to go into eastern Europe. Did you notice how quickly Finland and Sweden joined up after Putin's invasion?

Putin NEVER said he was going into Eastern Europe, that's just a lie

NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county

BIRDMAN wrote:

So they helped us destroy a country that had nothing to do with 9/11. Is that what you’re saying.

GW seemed to make it seem that way.

Maybe the NATO countries that started helping "get Bin Laden" in Afghanistan after 9/11 were told he might be hiding in Iraq with all those WMD ...

NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county

WEBCO wrote:

Putin NEVER said he was going into Eastern Europe, that's just a lie

He's already made a couple "ooopsies" with his missiles.

BIRDMAN

NotMAGA wrote:

GW seemed to make it seem that way.

Maybe the NATO countries that started helping "get Bin Laden" in Afghanistan after 9/11 were told he might be hiding in Iraq with all those WMD ...

What WMD