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Mar 19, 2024 15:33:25   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Ask the NATO country closest to Russia.

‘Alarm bells are ringing’: Poland’s president says NATO must urgently ramp up defense spending
PUBLISHED TUE, MAR 19 2024 2:15 AM EDT
UPDATED TUE, MAR 19 2024 3:44 AM EDT


Poland now spends 4% of gross domestic product (GDP) on defense — up from 3% last year and more than even the U.S.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/19/russia-ukraine-poland-says-nato-must-urgently-ramp-spending.html

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/03/19/polish-president-says-nato-must-urgently-ramp-up-defense-spending/

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Mar 19, 2024 15:44:32   #
American Vet
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Ask the NATO country closest to Russia.

‘Alarm bells are ringing’: Poland’s president says NATO must urgently ramp up defense spending
PUBLISHED TUE, MAR 19 2024 2:15 AM EDT
UPDATED TUE, MAR 19 2024 3:44 AM EDT


Poland now spends 4% of gross domestic product (GDP) on defense — up from 3% last year and more than even the U.S.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/19/russia-ukraine-poland-says-nato-must-urgently-ramp-spending.html

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/03/19/polish-president-says-nato-must-urgently-ramp-up-defense-spending/
Ask the NATO country closest to Russia. br br ‘Al... (show quote)


Good. The Europeans need to step up to the plate if they believe Russia is such a threat.

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Mar 19, 2024 16:16:47   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Ask the NATO country closest to Russia.

‘Alarm bells are ringing’: Poland’s president says NATO must urgently ramp up defense spending
PUBLISHED TUE, MAR 19 2024 2:15 AM EDT
UPDATED TUE, MAR 19 2024 3:44 AM EDT


Poland now spends 4% of gross domestic product (GDP) on defense — up from 3% last year and more than even the U.S.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/19/russia-ukraine-poland-says-nato-must-urgently-ramp-spending.html

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/03/19/polish-president-says-nato-must-urgently-ramp-up-defense-spending/
Ask the NATO country closest to Russia. br br ‘Al... (show quote)


***Is NATO obsolete?
>>>Yes
***And is Putin a threat?
>>>No
Is NATO a threat? Yes

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Mar 19, 2024 17:22:55   #
BIRDMAN
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Ask the NATO country closest to Russia.

‘Alarm bells are ringing’: Poland’s president says NATO must urgently ramp up defense spending
PUBLISHED TUE, MAR 19 2024 2:15 AM EDT
UPDATED TUE, MAR 19 2024 3:44 AM EDT


Poland now spends 4% of gross domestic product (GDP) on defense — up from 3% last year and more than even the U.S.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/19/russia-ukraine-poland-says-nato-must-urgently-ramp-spending.html

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/03/19/polish-president-says-nato-must-urgently-ramp-up-defense-spending/
Ask the NATO country closest to Russia. br br ‘Al... (show quote)


Yes remember if we don’t beat the Vietnamese. C*******m is going to spread throughout the world.



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Mar 19, 2024 17:24:01   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Ask the NATO country closest to Russia.

‘Alarm bells are ringing’: Poland’s president says NATO must urgently ramp up defense spending
PUBLISHED TUE, MAR 19 2024 2:15 AM EDT
UPDATED TUE, MAR 19 2024 3:44 AM EDT


Poland now spends 4% of gross domestic product (GDP) on defense — up from 3% last year and more than even the U.S.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/19/russia-ukraine-poland-says-nato-must-urgently-ramp-spending.html

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/03/19/polish-president-says-nato-must-urgently-ramp-up-defense-spending/
Ask the NATO country closest to Russia. br br ‘Al... (show quote)


It has been 79 years since the end of World War II. It is well past time for Europe to pay for and manage their own defense.

As to Putin being a threat, maybe or maybe not. There were agreements made concerning NATO membership for countries surrounding Russia. Those agreements have been violated. If he is a threat, it is to Eastern European countries surrounding Russia’s borders. The Russian economy is to dependent on European purchase of gas to militarily threaten them.

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Mar 19, 2024 18:28:50   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***Is NATO obsolete?
>>>Yes
***And is Putin a threat?
>>>No
Is NATO a threat? Yes


Because you think so doesn't make it so. I don't believe you know Putin personally.

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Mar 19, 2024 18:30:56   #
BIRDMAN
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Because you think so doesn't make it so. I don't believe you know Putin personally.


That might be for Case but he’s still right

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Mar 19, 2024 18:52:09   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Because you think so doesn't make it so. I don't believe you know Putin personally.


Considering his background, it is highly unlikely anyone truly knows Putin. From the perspective of trying to determine his future behaviors, the US nor NATO are unqualified to do so.Their minds are already made up. It is a glaring error!

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Mar 19, 2024 20:09:24   #
MidnightRider
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***Is NATO obsolete?
>>>Yes
***And is Putin a threat?
>>>No
Is NATO a threat? Yes


As I see it, years ago we had to threaten NATO just to get them to pay their dues. Okay, enough of then, are they obsolete? I can't remember a time when they haven't been. Putin a threat? I wouldn't invite him to dinner, but no. NATO is much more of a threat, they aren't powerful at all, but they act as the Pentagon's (ELWNJs) minions. And they are often sanctioned by the CIA. I don't play the links game so don't bother.

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Mar 19, 2024 20:19:14   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
Do any of you remember when NATO countries came to OUR aid after 9/11?

Or is this a case of collective amnesia?

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Mar 19, 2024 20:36:39   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Do any of you remember when NATO countries came to OUR aid after 9/11?

Or is this a case of collective amnesia?


If one studies history, we rebuilt Europe after WWII. Somehow, that may be substantially more than anything they have ever done at anytime. The US has subsided NATO for decades.

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Mar 19, 2024 21:25:48   #
WEBCO
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Ask the NATO country closest to Russia.

‘Alarm bells are ringing’: Poland’s president says NATO must urgently ramp up defense spending
PUBLISHED TUE, MAR 19 2024 2:15 AM EDT
UPDATED TUE, MAR 19 2024 3:44 AM EDT


Poland now spends 4% of gross domestic product (GDP) on defense — up from 3% last year and more than even the U.S.

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/03/19/russia-ukraine-poland-says-nato-must-urgently-ramp-spending.html

https://euromaidanpress.com/2024/03/19/polish-president-says-nato-must-urgently-ramp-up-defense-spending/
Ask the NATO country closest to Russia. br br ‘Al... (show quote)


Yes, NATOis obsolete and has been for 20+ years.

No, Putin is not a threat to the US

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Mar 19, 2024 21:28:12   #
WEBCO
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Do any of you remember when NATO countries came to OUR aid after 9/11?

Or is this a case of collective amnesia?


I don't remember any NATO countries sending us financial aid.

Some came willingly, others were coerced. None were needed however.

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Mar 19, 2024 21:34:27   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
So, amnesia then.

Some of the NATO countries even helped in the War against Terror - in Iraq.

They didn't have to. We didn't even ask them to. They just did. Maybe they considered it all part of the response to 9/11.

The US was not the only country who lost lives in Iraq and Afghanistan.

How much is one human life worth?

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_51977.htm

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Mar 19, 2024 21:49:56   #
American Vet
 
NotMAGA wrote:
So, amnesia then.

Some of the NATO countries even helped in the War against Terror - in Iraq.

They didn't have to. We didn't even ask them to. They just did. Maybe they considered it all part of the response to 9/11.

The US was not the only country who lost lives in Iraq and Afghanistan.

How much is one human life worth?

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_51977.htm


Quite obviously many countries had an interest in the 'War Against Terror'. They were 'helping' themselves as much as they were helping others.

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