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Mar 15, 2024 14:52:46   #
lindynduff1
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Yes - this is what I was referring to. People are being driven AWAY from Christianity because people who claim to be "Christian Evangelicals" support DJT.

Many people on the other side of the Christian divide - what has now become a yawning deep dark chasm - look at DJT the same way I do - Evil with a capital E. If not THE Antichrist, certainly at least a small "a" antichrist.


To me he is terrifyingly evil. I don’t know but it seems to me that evil guys have a long expiration date but they do eventually expire. It will be a long slog back for the church in America. It’s the 39 and younger crowd who are so turned off by the church and that’s too bad because they will need what that orange baboon has destroyed one day.

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Mar 15, 2024 14:55:33   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
@ Lily - and anyone else who still sees DJ as some sort of white knight...
Just because you disagree does not mean it isn't true. Google the stats. Look at the empty churches getting even emptier. The only ones prospering - sort of - are the ones preaching the Prosperity gospel.

You cannot serve both God and money.

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Mar 15, 2024 14:58:39   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Lily wrote:
I bet if you fall down somewhere it will be trumps fault. Is there nothing on earth you yahoos are not going to blame Trump for? Don’t bother answering. The answer is obvious.

Trump is not responsible for anything.

Don’t believe me?

Just ask him about his Covid response, the insurrection or his 88 criminal indictments.

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Mar 15, 2024 15:00:08   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Just because you disagree does not mean it isn't true. Google the stats. Look at the empty churches getting even emptier. The only ones prospering - sort of - are the ones preaching the Prosperity gospel.

You cannot serve both God and money.

Greed has a price.

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Mar 15, 2024 15:29:21   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
NotMAGA wrote:
@ Lily - and anyone else who still sees DJ as some sort of white knight...
Just because you disagree does not mean it isn't true. Google the stats. Look at the empty churches getting even emptier. The only ones prospering - sort of - are the ones preaching the Prosperity gospel.

You cannot serve both God and money.


I think her point was more about you blame every single thing you find wrong on Trump as opposed to your own behaviors. It makes your life so much easier to be able to be fault free because Trump caused whatever went wrong.

So churches emptying, in your opinion, is because of Trump. It is not possible, in your mind, there may be other reasons. Mayhaps members are not approving of the extreme change in organized religious groups tenets.

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Mar 15, 2024 15:39:47   #
son of witless
 
lindynduff1 wrote:
I agree with , it is still true that religion divides. Christianity has become something that it’s never been. For whatever the reasons, a lot of Christianity has become dark and threatening. Not all Christianity but a big swath of American Christian’s are cruel and angry and very Trumpy. You know what they say, Trump ruins everything he touches and right now he’s going whole hog public with his new found Christianity and It’s entirely possible that he will take Christianity and make it something to avoid like the plague. I keep waiting for this to end.
I agree with , it is still true that religion divi... (show quote)


Wow have you ever bought into this fear mongering Democrat lie that all Christians are spooky scary nationalists. You refuse to acknowledge that anyone would have legitimate concerns with the policies and results of the Biden-Harris Administration. Those of us supporting Trump are not brain dead zombies who robot like do what ever Trump commands.

We see Donald J. Trump as our only option to stopping the destructive actions of those you voted into the control of our country. Thanks Joe Voter. Thanks a whole bunch for all of the inflation and other catastrophes of the last 3 plus years.

Please have a pleasant afternoon.

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Mar 15, 2024 15:40:46   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
lindynduff1 wrote:
To me he is terrifyingly evil. I don’t know but it seems to me that evil guys have a long expiration date but they do eventually expire. It will be a long slog back for the church in America. It’s the 39 and younger crowd who are so turned off by the church and that’s too bad because they will need what that orange baboon has destroyed one day.


Ah, another one who blames Trump for everything. You and your ilk lack a complete responsibility for your behaviors. It is so convenient to have someone else to blame.

As someone who spends a significant amount of time among the younger crowd, they are turned off by denominational churches not by faith or God. There is a quiet movement to home group religious practices. They gather in small groups for Bible study, discussion on how to live a Christian life in these times of acceptance of deviancy, and prayer. It is a very encouraging sign that faith is not gone. It simply outside of denominational churches.

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Mar 15, 2024 15:48:15   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Trump is not responsible for anything.

Don’t believe me?

Just ask him about his Covid response, the insurrection or his 88 criminal indictments.




His COVID response (lockdowns, school closures, etc) was based on the wrong advice of NIH and the CDC. Those individuals involved in giving that advice are, now, admitting it was based on nothing.

There has been no charge of insurrection by any legitimate legal entity. One wonders about the timing of said indictments.

He is an atypical NYC person; loud mouth, arrogant and positive they are right. One only needs to look at NY politicians as a whole to see those traits. I have yet to run into a single
Person from NYC who did not share those same traits. One has to wonder why NY is seen has “the greatest city” when the people are so lacking in basic societal skills.

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Mar 15, 2024 15:49:56   #
BIRDMAN
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Trump is not responsible for anything.

Don’t believe me?

Just ask him about his Covid response, the insurrection or his 88 criminal indictments.


What are the stats. Of people that died from Covid under Trump compared to Brandon. And to tell you the truth I can’t believe we still have Covid because Brandon ran on he was going to stop Covid in its tracks.

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Mar 15, 2024 15:57:28   #
Lily
 
AuntiE wrote:
I think her point was more about you blame every single thing you find wrong on Trump as opposed to your own behaviors. It makes your life so much easier to be able to be fault free because Trump caused whatever went wrong.


You’re to nice to these people!

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So churches emptying, in your opinion, is because of Trump. It is not possible, in your mind, there may be other reasons. Mayhaps members are not approving of the extreme change in organized religious groups tenets.


These people approve of churches approving of deviancy.

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Mar 15, 2024 15:58:28   #
Lily
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
What are the stats. Of people that died from Covid under Trump compared to Brandon. And to tell you the truth I can’t believe we still have Covid because Brandon ran on he was going to stop Covid in its tracks.


Yeah, remember take that experimental drug and all will be well. Idiots!

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Mar 15, 2024 16:46:23   #
Knightlady
 
AuntiE wrote:
Ah, another one who blames Trump for everything. You and your ilk lack a complete responsibility for your behaviors. It is so convenient to have someone else to blame.

As someone who spends a significant amount of time among the younger crowd, they are turned off by denominational churches not by faith or God. There is a quiet movement to home group religious practices. They gather in small groups for Bible study, discussion on how to live a Christian life in these times of acceptance of deviancy, and prayer. It is a very encouraging sign that faith is not gone. It simply outside of denominational churches.
Ah, another one who blames Trump for everything. Y... (show quote)


That's me. I'm turned off by organized religious institutions. They're all too political these days. The inner workings, not the sermons.

I'll just stick to try and be good to people, keep the faith and be at peace with myself. Will I fail? Sometimes, most likely, but then you pray, pull yourself up by the bootstraps and carry on

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Mar 15, 2024 16:51:15   #
BIRDMAN
 
Knightlady wrote:
That's me. I'm turned off by organized religious institutions. They're all too political these days. The inner workings, not the sermons.

I'll just stick to try and be good to people, keep the faith and be at peace with myself. Will I fail? Sometimes, most likely, but then you pray, pull yourself up by the bootstraps and carry on


👍👍👍👍

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Mar 15, 2024 17:39:27   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Knightlady wrote:
That's me. I'm turned off by organized religious institutions. They're all too political these days. The inner workings, not the sermons.

I'll just stick to try and be good to people, keep the faith and be at peace with myself. Will I fail? Sometimes, most likely, but then you pray, pull yourself up by the bootstraps and carry on


If you may wish to be part of a”church”, a small nondenominational community church may be an option.

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Mar 15, 2024 17:46:28   #
Rose42
 
NotMAGA wrote:
@ Lily - and anyone else who still sees DJ as some sort of white knight...
Just because you disagree does not mean it isn't true. Google the stats. Look at the empty churches getting even emptier. The only ones prospering - sort of - are the ones preaching the Prosperity gospel.

You cannot serve both God and money.


That has nothing to do with trump.
It was waning during Obama’s tenure as well.

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