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Mar 14, 2024 22:01:44   #
Big dog
 
RascalRiley wrote:
I can’t imagine what it would be like to be an atheist but I don’t see them as being evil people.


Those I know are certainly Not Evil, though some I’ve known have been not what I would call Righteous ( in a spiritual sense).
There are, no doubt, others that would embrace Evil while believing in their own God, and those who simply Are Evil and believe in no god whatsoever.
Either way, calling oneself an Atheist is saying that they believe in no god, which leaves open the door for Evil to make itself at home and become the dominant voice in a person.

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Mar 14, 2024 22:02:26   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
BIRDMAN wrote:
I believe in to each his own. As long as it does not affect me.

That which affects our sensibilities tends to irritate us.

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Mar 14, 2024 22:08:14   #
BIRDMAN
 
RascalRiley wrote:
That which affects our sensibilities tends to irritate us.


Take that red pill



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Mar 14, 2024 22:11:27   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Big dog wrote:
Those I know are certainly Not Evil, though some I’ve known have been not what I would call Righteous ( in a spiritual sense).
There are, no doubt, others that would embrace Evil while believing in their own God, and those who simply Are Evil and believe in no god whatsoever.
Either way, calling oneself an Atheist is saying that they believe in no god, which leaves open the door for Evil to make itself at home and become the dominant voice in a person.

It is not necessary to believe in God to have a strong moral character and be adverse to evil.

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Mar 14, 2024 22:46:21   #
Big dog
 
RascalRiley wrote:
It is not necessary to believe in God to have a strong moral character and be adverse to evil.


If one is adverse to evil, then that is admittance to there both Good and Evil. From the theological point of view, there is no sitting on the fence. One has either allow Good or Evil in their souls. A person can be of good morals, but without the commitment to God, those morals are still susceptible to abuse. By putting all of ones faith into God, that’s how to defeat Evil. To be noncommittal is to allow evil to spread. Being an atheist is to be noncommittal.

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Mar 14, 2024 23:18:06   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Big dog wrote:
If one is adverse to evil, then that is admittance to there both Good and Evil. From the theological point of view, there is no sitting on the fence. One has either allow Good or Evil in their souls. A person can be of good morals, but without the commitment to God, those morals are still susceptible to abuse. By putting all of ones faith into God, that’s how to defeat Evil. To be noncommittal is to allow evil to spread. Being an atheist is to be noncommittal.

Few people have the strength of character to resist all evil and I would venture to say that such individuals can be found world wide.

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Mar 15, 2024 06:26:06   #
Big dog
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Few people have the strength of character to resist all evil and I would venture to say that such individuals can be found world wide.


I certainly hope so.

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Mar 15, 2024 10:20:51   #
biffisbuff
 
I am agnostic and the use of certain words to describe what is happening here and there and if no one is watching a clock... everywhere...there is many talking heads that will say ....there is a war on x-mas being waged by progressives...no war is being promoted to eliminate x-mas and that is the wrong use of war.... atheists worship at the alter of open borders and indoctrination of anti religion... another wrong use of words...if your an atheist then you don't worship anything... maybe people should try a better use of words to describe what is going on in the world or even their opinions...one of my friends told me once that if more people would just talk to one another and also listen to each other then many situations would probably not end up turning negative or as negative.

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Mar 15, 2024 10:50:46   #
son of witless
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Back when Quakers first arrived on these shores, they were scourged by Catholics and Protestants alike. Then the Jews arrived. And Buddhists. And Hindus. And Muslims...

There used to be tolerance for all the different religions, but some of that has gone by the wayside these days too.


No there was not tolerance. Do not rewrite history to justify your current thoughts. The further back in history you go the more intolerant each religion was for all of the others. In my own family history I had one Catholic grandmother and another Protestant. Each believed it was sacrilegious that my parents were married and had children.

The amusing thing is the two old women eventually became friends. Now Protestants and Catholics pretty much get along well because the common enemy is Atheism. Right now Islam is the only major religion that seems to retain it's intolerance for other religions.

At any rate keeping religion out of government was never about keeping God out of authority. It was about keeping inter religious strife out of it.

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Mar 15, 2024 11:02:11   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
biffisbuff wrote:
I am agnostic and the use of certain words to describe what is happening here and there and if no one is watching a clock... everywhere...there is many talking heads that will say ....there is a war on x-mas being waged by progressives...no war is being promoted to eliminate x-mas and that is the wrong use of war.... atheists worship at the alter of open borders and indoctrination of anti religion... another wrong use of words...if your an atheist then you don't worship anything... maybe people should try a better use of words to describe what is going on in the world or even their opinions...one of my friends told me once that if more people would just talk to one another and also listen to each other then many situations would probably not end up turning negative or as negative.
I am agnostic and the use of certain words to desc... (show quote)


If only people would listen is key but far fetched it today’s world.

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Mar 15, 2024 14:17:44   #
lindynduff1
 
son of witless wrote:
I believe you need to acknowledge the difference between Jefferson's time and now. Back in his day Christianity had many different Churches. The reason Thomas Jefferson wanted to keep religion out of government was because he did not want the strife that would happen as the various denominations competed politically.

That is far different than now. Now the various religious groups are not trying to be the National Church. Now the war is between Christianity and Atheism.


I agree with , it is still true that religion divides. Christianity has become something that it’s never been. For wh**ever the reasons, a lot of Christianity has become dark and threatening. Not all Christianity but a big swath of American Christian’s are cruel and angry and very Trumpy. You know what they say, Trump ruins everything he touches and right now he’s going whole hog public with his new found Christianity and It’s entirely possible that he will take Christianity and make it something to avoid like the plague. I keep waiting for this to end.

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Mar 15, 2024 14:31:02   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
son of witless wrote:
No there was not tolerance. Do not rewrite history to justify your current thoughts. The further back in history you go the more intolerant each religion was for all of the others. In my own family history I had one Catholic grandmother and another Protestant. Each believed it was sacrilegious that my parents were married and had children.

The amusing thing is the two old women eventually became friends. Now Protestants and Catholics pretty much get along well because the common enemy is Atheism. Right now Islam is the only major religion that seems to retain it's intolerance for other religions.

At any rate keeping religion out of government was never about keeping God out of authority. It was about keeping inter religious strife out of it.
No there was not tolerance. Do not rewrite history... (show quote)


I'm not sure if you are deliberately misconstruing my words or not. I thought after giving an example from the distant past it was implied that I meant our more recent history.

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Mar 15, 2024 14:35:41   #
Lily
 
biffisbuff wrote:
I am agnostic and the use of certain words to describe what is happening here and there and if no one is watching a clock... everywhere...there is many talking heads that will say ....there is a war on x-mas being waged by progressives...no war is being promoted to eliminate x-mas and that is the wrong use of war.... atheists worship at the alter of open borders and indoctrination of anti religion... another wrong use of words...if your an atheist then you don't worship anything... maybe people should try a better use of words to describe what is going on in the world or even their opinions...one of my friends told me once that if more people would just talk to one another and also listen to each other then many situations would probably not end up turning negative or as negative.
I am agnostic and the use of certain words to desc... (show quote)


Maybe writing coherently would help you.

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Mar 15, 2024 14:35:53   #
NotMAGA Loc: Upstate NY - in a very red county
 
lindynduff1 wrote:
I agree with , it is still true that religion divides. Christianity has become something that it’s never been. For wh**ever the reasons, a lot of Christianity has become dark and threatening. Not all Christianity but a big swath of American Christian’s are cruel and angry and very Trumpy. You know what they say, Trump ruins everything he touches and right now he’s going whole hog public with his new found Christianity and It’s entirely possible that he will take Christianity and make it something to avoid like the plague. I keep waiting for this to end.
I agree with , it is still true that religion divi... (show quote)


Yes - this is what I was referring to. People are being driven AWAY from Christianity because people who claim to be "Christian Evangelicals" support DJT.

Many people on the other side of the Christian divide - what has now become a yawning deep dark chasm - look at DJT the same way I do - Evil with a capital E. If not THE Antichrist, certainly at least a small "a" antichrist.

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Mar 15, 2024 14:42:37   #
Lily
 
NotMAGA wrote:
Yes - this is what I was referring to. People are being driven AWAY from Christianity because people who claim to be "Christian Evangelicals" support DJT.

Many people on the other side of the Christian divide - what has now become a yawning deep dark chasm - look at DJT the same way I do - Evil with a capital E. If not THE Antichrist, certainly at least a small "a" antichrist.


I bet if you fall down somewhere it will be trumps fault. Is there nothing on earth you yahoos are not going to blame Trump for? Don’t bother answering. The answer is obvious.

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