Robbie1 slams his gavel down on the judge’s desk from his throne: There are no contradictions in the bible.
:shock: :roll: :roll:


:lol: :lol:. Yes there are. The entire book is a contradiction, in addition to the tens of thousands of contradictions. :lol: :lol: This is an extraordinary claim and requires extraordinary evidence which you have not provided. Just like you can’t prove this imaginary sky daddy exist at all save in your imagination. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Robbie1 fails again: The bible is a book of Human writings inspired by god. :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


This is another extraordinary claim and requires extraordinary evidence which you have not provided. If your god is so prevalent, so present everywhere and in everything, why isn’t this god posting comments on this thread? Why isn’t there a voice outside of your head that will speak to everyone of its greatness and love?


:oops: :roll: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

We haven’t heard a peep from this imaginary sky daddy ever. The only peeps people can point to happened some 2400 years ago for a period of a couple hundred years.

There are no eye-witnesses, though a few claim to have seen this crap with their own eyes. But there’ no proof or evidence of any of it. It is all hearsay. There were 4 editors who have rewritten, redacted and edited the myths stories that fill these books. Ever heard of them? :roll: :roll: :shock: :shock:


Scholarly examination which gives evidence of their individual influence has labeled them as the Elohist (E), the Priestly writer (P), the Deuteronomist (D), and the Yahwist (or Jahwist = German equivalent of English letter Y so Y or J).

So these folks PYED (the pied pipers) have altered the text, have altered the order of books, altered the order of events (thus making it appear that something was prophesied before it occurred, and made claims regarding who was the author responsible for the texts that were outright lies.

There are numerous shifts in tense (first person, to third person etc.) within the same story, which clearly indicate that several texts written by different authors are sewn together like they all were written by the same person about the same subject or were audited and edited before inclusion. Or, the editors found the actual text unsatisfying, didn’t make enough extraordinary claims about events and so wrote in a new version, forgetting they had changed the tense the author was writing in.

You folks who claim to know this material, who claim to have read it, well, you probably read it, but your minds filled in the blanks when you ran across all of these bumps and potholes in the road so that you could continue paying attention to an extraordinary story about something that didn’t happen, and yet allow the story (BS) could continue to unfold.

All of you continue to be so eager to believe, you don’t ever question the continuous stream of subtle and glaring errors that confront you. Your belief, and brain just continue to fill in the blanks so that you can maintain these beliefs.

:shock::shock::shock: :oops::oops: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Robbie1 takes another stab at it: Everyone can understand the bible from a human standpoint.

:oops: :roll: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is another extraordinary claim and requires extraordinary evidence which you have not provided.

Robbie1 continues this path: Hidden in the bible, god wrote the mysteries of god's word.

So one moment everyone can understand it on a human level, and the next minute the message is hidden.

:oops: :roll: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is an extraordinary claim and requires extraordinary evidence which you have not provided, in addition to making no sense whatsoever, but the kind of circular reasoning often engaged in by apologists or people who believe in a delusional belief system and therefore because they are so attached to it,

must attempt to defend it no matter how glaringly wrong it is.

You guys play this game over and over again dancing, dodging, and deflecting.

Why would such a caring imaginary friend want to make things hidden? This is nonsense of the highest caliber.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Robbie1 continues: For example, the bible says it is appointed unto to man to die once and after that the judgment. I may say that means we as men die (and then) then we are judged at the white throne (of) judgment.

Okay, it’s BS, but do women go to a different court where there is a different colored throne? Are people of different ethnicities, races, and different or who maintain no belief systems spoken to from a different colored throne in a different part of this imaginary afterlife world?

And why is a chair making these decisions?

Robbie1 stamps his foot: Not true. It means that when Adam sinned against god all men died. Even before they were born.

Ummmm, what about the women and children? Secondly there wasn’t anyone named Adam who sinned in this context. This is a fairy tale.

But let’s continue.

Do you know how insane and nutty that sounds? ROFLMAO.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Throughout my life, and the lives of millions of others, do you have any idea how many even more nutty, (and some less), interpretations of that fairy tale story and that kind of thinking has been promulgated by preachers and believers?

There are now some 38,000 christian sects/cults each one interpreting all of this fairy tale’s books insanity and nonsense in different ways!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Each one claims it is the one true and only way to believe!!!

Why are there 38,000 different sects/cults if your sky daddy’s words are so clear and without contradiction, and obfuscation?

I’m sure your spin is going to be just adorable.

:oops: :oops::oops::oops: :roll:

Robbie1 claims: god's plan is seen to god as one plan as though it already happened.

Right, right, right and you know this because you’ve had conversations with this imaginary friend in your head all the time and this is what delusional belief will do to people. You’ll claim to know just about anything.

Robbie1 claims: god knows the beginning from the end. Everything happens with god all at once.

Right, right, right and you know this because you’ve had conversations with this imaginary friend in your head all the time and this is what delusional belief will do to people. You’ll claim to know just about anything.

Robbie1 continues: If god has to think of something then that would assume god doesn't know everything.

Which is just another circular defense so that you can continue to pretend this imaginary friend exists.

Robbie1 makes another attempt: Not true. He/she/its’ plan for mankind was over and done with before he/she/it said let there light.

Yet by your claim, if I do something different than I am doing now I can change what happens to me, yet it’s already been done, decided and known in advance so what’s the point of a religion that pretends to give you an out, pretends to foster the idea of free will, if everything has already been done and decided in advance?

That’s about as whackjob a way of thinking as can be. :oops: :roll: :lol:


This is snakeoil Robbie1, and that makes you a snakeoil salesman. Which basically means you are willingly perpetrating a fraud.







:lol: :lol: :lol: :oops: :roll: :shock:

Look I appreciate that you are saying and claiming that you are going to look at these links and read these books, but frankly that is going to take you several months, maybe even years to really spend time with. So you aren't likely to get back to me anytime soon about it, and if you write back in a week that you've investigated this with the kind of attention it deserves then I must conclude that you really aren't going to weigh the material carefully.

I also found it really disappointing that you haven't acknowledged in any way the information I have presented you simply through discussion about the way christian's behave towards others.

While you appeared to apologize, the sentences you followed the apology with clearly demonstrated your behavior (which wasn't anything like being a true christian) is what, and how you normally respond to material that contradicts your belief system even while you claim it is your belief system and present yourself as a christian who is just absolutely filled with love, compassion, empathy, and understanding for everyone.

Why didn't you address that issue at all? Is it because you reserve the right for yourself to step away from your pretended christian beliefs, values, and morals when it suits your purpose to smash and crush anyone who disagrees with you?

Doesn't sound, or appear to be behavior that has truly embraced what are foisted upon us as the true teachings of the most glorious savior character ever in the world.

Do you love your child enough to let him/her continually play out in the street?
Do you love your wife enough to let anyone who wants her to have sex with her?

You argument concerning christian love is not viable , nor is it answerable because you are not using logical statements.

Anyone can ask how many angels will fit on the head of a pin, but no one on earth can answer that question. All questions are worthwhile, ALL. However, answers are fickle because they can be believed or unbelieved. It depends on the direction the asker is leaning.

What existed before existence? Where does guilt come from? Don't give me the definition of guilt where did the feeling or emotion of guilt come from.

If in the end of everything, how can one say there is nothing, when in the beginning, everything came from nothing?

You don't have to be so rude. If you are defending absolute truth and knowledge, there is no need to try to insult or intimidate people.

Well, the bible is a magnificent work (no it isn't) and you have to take it in faith (no you don't) that it was written for instruction. I know, god has not been here lately but most importantly, when he/she/it sent his son to save us from our sins, he/she/it left us with his/her/it spirit.

You get faith through suffering and all naysayers either have not been called yet or have refused to listen when he/she/ite called (not true), but each individual gets the opportunity to enter into relationship (a delusional one with themselves).

I believe I was called when I was paralyzed at 15. A severe head injury destroyed all nerve connections on the right side of my body. While unconscious, I met the lord.

The bible is not an instruction book.[1]

The bible is not an inspiration guide.[2]

The bible is not a textbook for morality or life.[3]

It is a collection of at least 66 separate works, written over centuries of time, that contain narratives about people's perceptions in which they believed there was/is a god as a means to try to answer things about life, this world and universe for which they had no other ability to comprehend or measure. Experience, knowledge, morality, social inclusion v exclusion are all ideas and knowledge and wisdom obtained by others throughout history without claiming an imaginary lord and master.

However, people do try to use it as all those things, and the confusion begins when they fail to consider each individual author's purpose (including those of the 4 editors who fashioned and tweaked it further). If I tried to use The Great Gatsby, Huckleberry Finn, or the Iliad as an infallible collection of directives, I'd run into trouble fast, just as all you folks are by using this book. These are simply cognitive mechanisms that offer an optimal compromise between interesting things and expected things.

People do something similar when they think of the bible like a textbook.

To interpret something properly, you need to understand the context, the author's intention, and know something about the audience the author was writing to.

When people think of themselves as the audience, or god as the author, ignore the context, or misunderstand why the author is saying what he does, there's bound to be problems with things making sense.

[1] A number of the books are laws that were devised to govern a nation of (or tribes of) people but aren't often really considered directly applicable today, and they're valued by some as insight into principles. Principles that can be found in writings throughout time with no one claiming they were from an imaginary friend. But there are a slew of other books throughout history that had nothing to do with religion, even novels that have done the same thing for people. People felt good because of how, what they read made them feel, which is an emotional experience, but isn’t a god. One can also experience a knowing about truth when they discover it within themselves, but that isn’t a god.

[2] A reader might find parts that are inspirational.

[3] As with any literature, there's often a "moral to the story" and parts of the text include moral principles and practical advice.

People hallucinate and dream of all manner of things, especially those things given supernatural powers by the societies around them, and especially when suffering from neurological trauma. It doesn’t mean you met any lord or imaginary friend.

You don’t get faith through suffering, you get hope that the suffering will end, once it does end attributing its end to faith is a non-starter. It isn’t real, but it is what you may want to believe.

Robbie1 slams his gavel down on the judge’s desk from his throne: There are no contradictions in the bible.
:shock: :roll: :roll:


:lol: :lol:. Yes there are. The entire book is a contradiction, in addition to the tens of thousands of contradictions. :lol: :lol: This is an extraordinary claim and requires extraordinary evidence which you have not provided. Just like you can’t prove this imaginary sky daddy exist at all save in your imagination. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Robbie1 fails again: The bible is a book of Human writings inspired by god. :roll: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:


This is another extraordinary claim and requires extraordinary evidence which you have not provided. If your god is so prevalent, so present everywhere and in everything, why isn’t this god posting comments on this thread? Why isn’t there a voice outside of your head that will speak to everyone of its greatness and love?


:oops: :roll: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

We haven’t heard a peep from this imaginary sky daddy ever. The only peeps people can point to happened some 2400 years ago for a period of a couple hundred years.

There are no eye-witnesses, though a few claim to have seen this crap with their own eyes. But there’ no proof or evidence of any of it. It is all hearsay. There were 4 editors who have rewritten, redacted and edited the myths stories that fill these books. Ever heard of them? :roll: :roll: :shock: :shock:


Scholarly examination which gives evidence of their individual influence has labeled them as the Elohist (E), the Priestly writer (P), the Deuteronomist (D), and the Yahwist (or Jahwist = German equivalent of English letter Y so Y or J).

So these folks PYED (the pied pipers) have altered the text, have altered the order of books, altered the order of events (thus making it appear that something was prophesied before it occurred, and made claims regarding who was the author responsible for the texts that were outright lies.

There are numerous shifts in tense (first person, to third person etc.) within the same story, which clearly indicate that several texts written by different authors are sewn together like they all were written by the same person about the same subject or were audited and edited before inclusion. Or, the editors found the actual text unsatisfying, didn’t make enough extraordinary claims about events and so wrote in a new version, forgetting they had changed the tense the author was writing in.

You folks who claim to know this material, who claim to have read it, well, you probably read it, but your minds filled in the blanks when you ran across all of these bumps and potholes in the road so that you could continue paying attention to an extraordinary story about something that didn’t happen, and yet allow the story (BS) could continue to unfold.

All of you continue to be so eager to believe, you don’t ever question the continuous stream of subtle and glaring errors that confront you. Your belief, and brain just continue to fill in the blanks so that you can maintain these beliefs.

:shock::shock::shock: :oops::oops: :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Robbie1 takes another stab at it: Everyone can understand the bible from a human standpoint.

:oops: :roll: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is another extraordinary claim and requires extraordinary evidence which you have not provided.

Robbie1 continues this path: Hidden in the bible, god wrote the mysteries of god's word.

So one moment everyone can understand it on a human level, and the next minute the message is hidden.

:oops: :roll: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

This is an extraordinary claim and requires extraordinary evidence which you have not provided, in addition to making no sense whatsoever, but the kind of circular reasoning often engaged in by apologists or people who believe in a delusional belief system and therefore because they are so attached to it,

must attempt to defend it no matter how glaringly wrong it is.

You guys play this game over and over again dancing, dodging, and deflecting.

Why would such a caring imaginary friend want to make things hidden? This is nonsense of the highest caliber.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Robbie1 continues: For example, the bible says it is appointed unto to man to die once and after that the judgment. I may say that means we as men die (and then) then we are judged at the white throne (of) judgment.

Okay, it’s BS, but do women go to a different court where there is a different colored throne? Are people of different ethnicities, races, and different or who maintain no belief systems spoken to from a different colored throne in a different part of this imaginary afterlife world?

And why is a chair making these decisions?

Robbie1 stamps his foot: Not true. It means that when Adam sinned against god all men died. Even before they were born.

Ummmm, what about the women and children? Secondly there wasn’t anyone named Adam who sinned in this context. This is a fairy tale.

But let’s continue.

Do you know how insane and nutty that sounds? ROFLMAO.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Throughout my life, and the lives of millions of others, do you have any idea how many even more nutty, (and some less), interpretations of that fairy tale story and that kind of thinking has been promulgated by preachers and believers?

There are now some 38,000 christian sects/cults each one interpreting all of this fairy tale’s books insanity and nonsense in different ways!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Each one claims it is the one true and only way to believe!!!

Why are there 38,000 different sects/cults if your sky daddy’s words are so clear and without contradiction, and obfuscation?

I’m sure your spin is going to be just adorable.

:oops: :oops::oops::oops: :roll:

Robbie1 claims: god's plan is seen to god as one plan as though it already happened.

Right, right, right and you know this because you’ve had conversations with this imaginary friend in your head all the time and this is what delusional belief will do to people. You’ll claim to know just about anything.

Robbie1 claims: god knows the beginning from the end. Everything happens with god all at once.

Right, right, right and you know this because you’ve had conversations with this imaginary friend in your head all the time and this is what delusional belief will do to people. You’ll claim to know just about anything.

Robbie1 continues: If god has to think of something then that would assume god doesn't know everything.

Which is just another circular defense so that you can continue to pretend this imaginary friend exists.

Robbie1 makes another attempt: Not true. He/she/its’ plan for mankind was over and done with before he/she/it said let there light.

Yet by your claim, if I do something different than I am doing now I can change what happens to me, yet it’s already been done, decided and known in advance so what’s the point of a religion that pretends to give you an out, pretends to foster the idea of free will, if everything has already been done and decided in advance?

That’s about as whackjob a way of thinking as can be. :oops: :roll: :lol:


This is snakeoil Robbie1, and that makes you a snakeoil salesman. Which basically means you are willingly perpetrating a fraud.
You have to be saved before the Holy Spirit shows you the mysteries of God. I guess you know where you stand. Or not.






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Faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE of things hoped for.
Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of dog.
All or most have gone through the doubts you express. And all or almost all have been taken to a point of brokenness. dog is not willing that anyone should perish but that all would come to repentance.

Dog in his/her/its infinite mercy knows how, when, where, what, and why to touch you or something or someone who is very precious to you. This is not done out of anger because it is the kindness of dog that leads men to repentance. God does not want you to lose your soul in hell; everyone is going to live forever somewhere, why not make it heaven?