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Feb 12, 2024 14:00:32   #
martsiva
 
Milosia2 wrote:
You want to eat Un Inspected Meat and Dairy ,
Un inspected foreign import meats and dairy ,
Un inspected Baby Formula ???? How about not inspecting for restaurant food safety ? To keep you from dying from salmonella ?
It’s regulations that protect our silly asses from from being totally robbed.
Poisoned with bad food , someone to watch our real estate market to keep Commercial Investment Capitalists from destroying it for everyone else.
Government is not your enemy !
It is the enemy of un regulated capitalism !!!
Less government serves you no purpose.
Stop fighting battles
for rich people and corporations !
I am not a communist !
I do not know of any communists in this country other than the MagaRight Trumpists who just love Vladimir Putin and everything he stands for.
You want to eat Un Inspected Meat and Dairy , br ... (show quote)


That isn`t what Rose meant but you are too dense to realize that!! Government control over which foods we get - government control over where we travel and government control over who gets property and who doesn`t is what Rose was talking about!! Capitalism is what grew this country into a great nation and the socialism you keep pushing is what destroys nations making YOU an enemy!! The socialism you push IS communism so don`t even begin to deny you`re a communis because THAT is EXACTLY what you are!!!

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Feb 12, 2024 14:06:05   #
martsiva
 
Milosia2 wrote:
UnRegulated Capitalism breeds
Poverty !
Some must go without in order for others to have more.
Un regulated capitalism.!
When 3 people own the equivalent wealth of the
Bottom 75% of the population , we’re almost there.
You , almost no longer matter .


Once again you show you`re socialist communism!! Take away from those who have earned their money and give it to those who have not earned it!! Put all corporations under control of the state like they do in communist CHINA!!

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Feb 12, 2024 14:18:43   #
manning5me Loc: Richmond, Va.
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
Not true. The regulations are to prevent small upstarts from competing with the established businesses.


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Nonsense! The problem is our current progressive government needs money to spend and has gone after ever smaller businesses to get it, plus forcing businesses to grant perks to employees beyond what small businesses can handle. They try to treat all employees the same regardless of the ability of the businesses to survive under their demands. The employees themselves have no say in the matter, it comes down from on high. So, they are soon out of work as the business closes. That is really great progressivism!

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Feb 12, 2024 15:06:28   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
I understand there are problems that will have to be worked out. There are those that can't afford medical care and would be able to with Medicare for All. It just makes sense that all deserve health care. Don't they? My health care is taken care of with both medicare and VA I guess I have been lucky I have always gotten excellent care from my VA Docs and when I had my 2 TVAs and my neck surgery I had excellent care in public hospital (Doctors Hosp Tuscaloosa AL) Yes I know the problem is how to pay for it especially with our massive crushing deficit. I still think it could be worked out for the benefit of all. If not Medicare for All then at least let those without health insurance because of cost can get insurance. And care The same goes for the cost of prescriptions there has to be away for cheaper products and the companies still make decent profits.
I understand there are problems that will have to ... (show quote)


Uhh....Obamacare is there for those that can't afford insurance. Nowhere does the constitution harness the federal government with the responsibility of the citizenry's health care. Take care of yourself. Help or accept help from your family or charity. Lastly, perhaps die early. There are your options.

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Feb 12, 2024 15:38:42   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
LostAggie66 wrote:


Because they haven’t earned it! Those of us that have worked for 60 plus year

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Feb 12, 2024 16:07:12   #
pegw
 
LostAggie66 wrote:


I have always been for Medicare for all. We are the only first world nation not to have something like this.

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Feb 12, 2024 16:20:42   #
maryla22
 
LostAggie66 wrote:


I thought you need to work for it?

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Feb 12, 2024 16:56:58   #
WEBCO
 
pegw wrote:
I have always been for Medicare for all. We are the only first world nation not to have something like this.


Not sure we are a 1st world country anymore. We also have better health care than all those countries

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Feb 12, 2024 17:43:28   #
Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA
 
LostAggie66 wrote:


Because it's socialized medicine....

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Feb 12, 2024 19:03:27   #
SeaLass Loc: Western Soviet Socialist Republics
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Are they really ?
I don’t remember them giving away $3Trillion to morbidly rich people who really don t need it !
Always the case for so called republicans !
Now we are unable to pay our own national debt !!’
You’re still being lied to !



Maybe not morbidly rich people directly, but "green energy" companies that go broke after getting $100 million's in hand-outs, socially active groups that only cause divisions and destruction, labor organizations that funnel a significant percentage of the money right back to the politicians, infrastructure projects that go to major political donors who never complete their contracts, waste and fraud in medicare/medicare programs reaching 25% of expenditures, need I go on?

https://www.pgpf.org/blog/2023/04/almost-25-percent-of-healthcare-spending-is-considered-wasteful-heres-why
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/rest-in-peace-the-list-of-deceased-solar-companies
https://nypost.com/2023/11/02/opinion/collapse-of-projects-shows-again-that-wind-power-is-not-affordable/

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Feb 12, 2024 19:47:56   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
pegw wrote:
I have always been for Medicare for all. We are the only first world nation not to have something like this.

So if all the other countries jumped off a cliff you'd expect our country to follow them?

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Feb 12, 2024 21:01:09   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Milosia2 wrote:
*****….. most rich people work very hard for their money. !!!!****
This is the funniest thing I’ve heard today !!!!
Sweet gullible ewes !!!
How much work is involved in going to bed a millionaire
And waking up a Billionaire ????
Working hard for their money !!!!
Too funny !!!!!
Still buying the lies .


Milosia, my life has been for the past 50 years, a very modest lifestyle. Yet I believe in Capitalism.

After our Revolution, ending our lives as Subjects of King George III, (when everyone was owned by the State as chattel), 1776 was a turning point in human civilization; "We the People" owned the State.

The Industrial Revolution blossomed, and we became unequally rich. More innovation has happened in the past 200 years than the past 2 million years. Our Freedom To Choose is our security.

Please make note of these humble beginnings of billionaires:

Bill Gates developed WINDOWS Microsoft in his garage.

Jeff Bezos disassembled his crib with a screwdriver to escape. He also began AMAZON in poverty, slowly selling books online from a warehouse and questioning his customers as to what else they needed.

Elon Musk emigrated from South Africa with his mother, quite poor. He worked 100 hours per week to start up one business, and used its profits to start another. He doesn't owe you or me a damned dime.

The endless toil to develop a product, like Ben Franklin, Graham Bell, Thomas Edison, or Eastman Kodak are legendary, and replicated amongst the other 22 million self-employed and Fortune 500. The vast majority did not arrive with a "silver spoon in their mouth."

Most successful businessmen never even take a salary for the first 5 years to get started. Their customers and employees always take priority. How long do you work?

Is it wrong to inherit a family farm or a business or money? The answer is no.

Is the cost of medical care so high today because of greedy doctors, or because of over-government regulation?

Who gives the best oversight: private class action lawsuits, or the FDA, CDC, EPA, 'expert' corrupt bureaucrats?

Look up the history of a new antibiotic Levaquin (where the patient's flesh falls off his bones). The head of the FDA had stock in this product, so it was not removed from the market. See Attorney Larry Klayman's class action lawsuit.

Karl Marx was a leech upon his family and collaborators like Friedrich Engles, a textile magnate in the employ of Prussian intelligence. But for innovators to prosper today, their companies must make an instant profit beyond the Federal Reserve Bank's negative percentage rate of the dollar's depreciation.

Here's a good read on the creation of Karl Marx's government central banking system, the Federal Reserve Bank:
[note this book search comes from AMAZON]

The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve
by G. Edward Griffin, Mark Bramhall, et al.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=the+creature+from+jekyll+island+book&i=stripbooks&crid=113DC8HMU7UWV&sprefix=The+Creature+from+J%2Cstripbooks%2C189&ref=nb_sb_ss_ts-doa-p_2_19

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Feb 12, 2024 21:35:01   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
Milosia2 wrote:
UnRegulated Capitalism breeds
Poverty !
Some must go without in order for others to have more.
Un regulated capitalism.!
When 3 people own the equivalent wealth of the
Bottom 75% of the population , we’re almost there.
You , almost no longer matter .


Milosia, you have been duped by the Democrat's word game.
The "wealth" that is being spoken of is only referring to investments in the stock market which is peanuts.

The vast majority of our people's wealth is in assets: real estate, their homes, land, millions of small businesses that have not gone public and intellectual property (patents), etc.
The biggest landowner is the Federal Government's Bureau of Land Management.

Federal owned land (does not include national parks, monuments, reservations)
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Feb 12, 2024 21:50:57   #
TruePatriot49 Loc: The Democratic People's Republic Rhode Island
 
pegw wrote:
I have always been for Medicare for all. We are the only first world nation not to have something like this.


PigW, "Medicare for all" is socialism and socialism is just pre communism or communism lite. Move to another country. You will be happier.

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Feb 12, 2024 22:35:42   #
CounterRevolutionary
 
TruePatriot49 wrote:
CounterRevolutionary, Melonoma2 doesn't know who Albert Camus is.


Albert Camus is a French author, comedian, and philosopher who won the Noble Prize for literature many decades ago. He started out as a socialist under Charles De Gaulle and swung to the right in the 1960s after the Algerian Revolution.

The French socialists, for much too long, held onto their colonies after WWI and WWII in the Levant and Africa, inciting the radical Islamic Wahhabi caliphs (phony fundamentalists) to organize rebellion. Jack Philby of Arabia (father to British Mole communist Kim Philby) introduced communism to the Arabian Wahhabi of Iban Saud by exposing the Sykes Picot Treaty. Ibin Saud scrapped Philby as a consultant for being a fake Muslim along with the Wahhabi caliphs

King Saud, when taking over the rule of Mecca at the end of WWI, joined the Brits and chose the Islamic Sunnis faith, since 80% of Muslims attending the Haj, were of this traditional Sunnis faith. The Algerians are not radical Islamist, they are traditional Sunnis.

Albert Camus caught on to France's role of duplicity. He fully understood socialism was purposely designed to implode economically and enslave Muslims. The Arabs are not a stupid people, but it has taken them some time to learn of Marx's communist racism and lust for oil. The French, still socialists, still control 70% of Africa's currency.

There are 70 volumes of Karl Marx's unpublished works in German for the rest of the world to translate and read to see who he really was and his objectives to incite riot, endless wars, and natural selection through the front lines. Camus got it right! Google could translate these volumes in a heartbeat. Why wait?

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