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Jan 9, 2024 06:09:48   #
bggamers Loc: georgia
 
AuntiE wrote:
I was lucky one year. The math teacher I had understood my total lack of ability and allowed me to use my figures to figure problems out. I still only received a piddling B and that was a close call.


my teacher gave me a D- just to give me a passing probably didnt come close to earning it

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Jan 9, 2024 06:52:40   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
AuntiE wrote:
Sorry, I have an advanced degree and could not do that without a calculator. My CPA father and a thrice a week tutor barely got me through my math requirements. My brain simply fails all math. If I have to handle any numeric situations, I will check myself at least three times I am that poor at numbers. On the other side, writing, grammar, etc. is like kindergarten to me.


I hear you. I can count change and keep score playing dice and such on but math has always been my worse subject. Barely made it out of high school and kept me from getting a college degree. I could still go back and take one class and graduate with a double major. But I'm done with school

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Jan 9, 2024 07:06:58   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
bggamers wrote:
Who ever invented that needs to be taken to the wood shed spent a year at adult ed walked out with no clue I just couldnt wrap my head around it


Algebra was invented as a stair step to geometry. It's supposed to introduce you to abstract concepts
The best math class I had was Mathematics for Electronics
It started out 2+2 and by the end of the semester I was doing trigonometry problems that took a while page or two to solve. They even let us use a calculator in class . It gave me a real good understanding of applied math but I just don't like working with numbers

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Jan 9, 2024 07:57:41   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
DAV wrote:
The Dumbing Down Of America: The most successful 'government' program EVER !!!


The Dumbing Down of America was started by
Bill Bennett , Reagan’s education secretary.
He started by cutting
USGovernment
And Civics from high school curriculums.
JFK Assassination reduced to 1 paragraph .
This is part of a larger plan by Betsy DeVoss to take over and privatize public education.
Dings dents glitches , and overall unworkablity must first be applied.
Run into the ground , before declaring
The government is unable to handle
public education .
It should all be privatized.
After which , there will be piles upon piles of money
Sent to Betsy!!!!!!!
Such gullible ewes !!!!!!

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Jan 9, 2024 09:12:39   #
Calconserv
 
AuntiE wrote:
Sorry, I have an advanced degree and could not do that without a calculator. My CPA father and a thrice a week tutor barely got me through my math requirements. My brain simply fails all math. If I have to handle any numeric situations, I will check myself at least three times I am that poor at numbers. On the other side, writing, grammar, etc. is like kindergarten to me.

That was my point on another post. The part of my brain that puts letters together does not work as well as the part that puts numbers together. It probably explains why my daughter is a math teacher at the Jr High level. I must have passed the # gene on to her.

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Jan 9, 2024 09:29:53   #
currahee506
 
The intent of the founders of our "public school education" was to make workers for the State. It was not intended to produce independent thinkers. This is the reason the "educators" do not teach kids how to get independently wealthy.

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Jan 9, 2024 10:21:07   #
Michael Roy Loc: North of Amarillo
 
Weasel wrote:
Belive it or not, I had a 45 year old that could not take $ 37.45 and give me change for $40.00 on my purchase yesterday.
Very Sad 😔.


In this case I would give two twentys a quarter and two dimes. I would expect to receive three dollars change. Oftentimes I would get two dollars my coins and 55 cents back. I will then try to trade the coins for a dollar. Usually they leave me with the coins saying the transaction is complete time to move on.

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Jan 9, 2024 10:34:34   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
AuntiE wrote:
Sorry, I have an advanced degree and could not do that without a calculator. My CPA father and a thrice a week tutor barely got me through my math requirements. My brain simply fails all math. If I have to handle any numeric situations, I will check myself at least three times I am that poor at numbers. On the other side, writing, grammar, etc. is like kindergarten to me.


Just count down Bill $37.45 change .05-.50-1.00-1.00 =$40

Way back in the mid 70's I would buy enough clothes to last a year the clerk was adding up the cost and I said there was an adding machine there to which she replied I refuse to use one on those !

Today they only know the correct change is what the register says ! ONCE in a while I have someone actually count the change back to me

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Jan 9, 2024 11:14:40   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Michael Roy wrote:
In this case I would give two twentys a quarter and two dimes. I would expect to receive three dollars change. Oftentimes I would get two dollars my coins and 55 cents back. I will then try to trade the coins for a dollar. Usually they leave me with the coins saying the transaction is complete time to move on.


To me that looks like you are intentionally trying to embarrass the cashier

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Jan 9, 2024 13:55:08   #
pegw
 
Facebook a legit source of info? Anyone there can say anything. I think Haley's remarks about the Civil War were due to her lack of schooling about it.

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Jan 9, 2024 15:56:11   #
Hydro
 
Weasel wrote:
Belive it or not, I had a 45 year old that could not take $ 37.45 and give me change for $40.00 on my purchase yesterday.
Very Sad 😔.


When I grew up we started math in kindergarten- we were taught to memorize numbers and use a pencil and paper - we weren’t privy to calculators - It seems by allowing students in the lower grades to use calculators built into the computers they use has dumbed down their ability to figure math issues in their head - once in higher math understand the necessity to use sine and co- sine in Trig - at Christmas we were shopping in a mall - power went out - the young lady in high school told everyone in line we would have to wait until the power came back as the register also maintained the stores inventory . Most set the articles down and left after about 10 minutes

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Jan 9, 2024 16:13:36   #
Radar OReilly
 
AuntiE wrote:
Sorry, I have an advanced degree and could not do that without a calculator. My CPA father and a thrice a week tutor barely got me through my math requirements. My brain simply fails all math. If I have to handle any numeric situations, I will check myself at least three times I am that poor at numbers. On the other side, writing, grammar, etc. is like kindergarten to me.


I have the same difficulty with a lot of math problems. Good thing my girls are making A's in all their math classes.so they can help the"old man"

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Jan 9, 2024 19:56:40   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
AuntiE wrote:
I was lucky one year. The math teacher I had understood my total lack of ability and allowed me to use my figures to figure problems out. I still only received a piddling B and that was a close call.

I nearly failed 9th grade Algebra so I wasn't allowed to "advance" and ended up taking Consumer Math to fulfill my math requirement. One of the best classes I ever took.

After high school, I was accepted into a 4-year manufacturing apprenticeship equivalent to a manufacturing engineering degree and had to "catch-up" by taking night classes at a local community college while in my senior year. I honestly believe that my mind matured by then as I got straight A's in those classes and every math class I've taken since up to and including three semesters of calculus.

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Jan 10, 2024 12:32:12   #
Calconserv
 
Hydro wrote:
When I grew up we started math in kindergarten- we were taught to memorize numbers and use a pencil and paper - we weren’t privy to calculators - It seems by allowing students in the lower grades to use calculators built into the computers they use has dumbed down their ability to figure math issues in their head - once in higher math understand the necessity to use sine and co- sine in Trig - at Christmas we were shopping in a mall - power went out - the young lady in high school told everyone in line we would have to wait until the power came back as the register also maintained the stores inventory . Most set the articles down and left after about 10 minutes
When I grew up we started math in kindergarten- we... (show quote)

Calculators mean nothing if you don’t know the formula

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Jan 10, 2024 12:41:07   #
Hydro
 
Calconserv wrote:
Calculators mean nothing if you don’t know the formula


You are absolutely correct

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