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Dec 29, 2023 09:05:26   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
EmilyD wrote:
Being a critical thinker has nothing to do with what a fact is (or what you are now calling your "accuracy").

So....Are you claiming that even though Trump never said the words "I promise to destroy democracy", that we should believe he means it by what you describe as "his actions"??

Maybe you should go back and read some of the things you have written about how you feel about him before you try that trick! LOL!!!

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This guy wouldn't know critical thinking if it slapped him in the face with a 2x4!

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Dec 29, 2023 09:31:59   #
Radiance3
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
This post is a mix of my own thoughts and understandings of facts vs. lies with those of another intelligent individual who previously posted the basis in response to a boatload of known prevarications posted by a MAGA hat idiot spewing more lies. Yes, Biden is a lousy president, but nowhere near as bad as trump, a thrice convicted con artist, fraudster, and sexual predator. Found guilty of these in three different courts of law including by a jury. And still under 91 indictments. So, here is another dose of truth, justice, and the American way – or what it was before trump was president. And anyone paying attention to trump promising to destroy democracy and violate the constitution really needs to think about what they are doing to this nation. And they need to cease believing anything on FOX, CNN, or MSNBC. And try to recall what America was like when we were a great nation with a great economy. And then get a valid education on exactly what brought us down, who did it, and why voting for the GOP and/or trump is a vote to continue destroying America’s greatness and our economy. Quotes below are from the previous author. Please note that anyone disagreeing with the messages below has exactly no proof of any of their claims to disagree, as the facts are not with them.

“a collapsing stock market,.” ‘Hogwash. The last time the market fell significantly, Trump was president. It cost me over $2,000 before I got out. And the market is coming up again now. And before that, Bush virtually destroyed the market, causing the “Great Recession.’ And the Great Depression was the direct result of GOP president Coolidge cutting taxes for the rich, eventually resulting in a huge balloon in the stock market values, and then the market crashed because of the balloon created by the wealthy having even more money to spend and nothing to spend it on that they needed money for. And THAT began the Great Depression.

“▪ government overreach and expansion,” ‘That is strictly a matter of opinion. I define overreach and expansion as the GOP pushing anti-abortion measures which violate the constitutional principle of separation of church and state.’ And I agree. Abortion is no one’s business but the persons directly involved and their doctor(s).

“▪ out of control national debt and increased government spending.” ‘ Trump set the standard for that when he cut taxes on the rich, causing the largest increase in the deficit in many years.’

“▪ politically weaponized DOJ, FBI and CIA.” ‘Nothing here but opinion and horse manure.’

“▪ the diluting of our educational standards and educational system,” ‘More BS. The education system has been being dumbed down for over 50 years, largely by the conservatives…’ and the churches refusing to increase pay for teachers or teaching science rather than religion, resulting in the best and brightest getting non-teaching jobs. Not to mention the spate of book banning going on, led by the GOP and the idiot governor of my state of residence, Florida.

“▪ crippling the American energy industry,” ‘More total BS. No truth in this, what so ever.’ Our energy industry is more profitable than ever, and we actually export crude oil. We have no need to import oil. America is totally oil independent. And the idiot Trump opened up our strategic reserves that were being held back for military purposes just so he could get lower prices – I ask at what cost?

“▪ stifling small businesses and business in general.” ‘The BS never stops with you, does it? Total hog wash. Small businesses are only hurt when the GOP passes laws designed to help major corporations, which is what they have been doing for the last 50 years. Give me an example of where they helped small businesses. I’ve never heard of one worth a dang.’ I’ll wait for your answer. Try finding one that contains at least some truth. You won’t, because your statement was nothing but one more lie.

“▪ increasing prices of goods and essentials outpacing wage increases for the middle class,” ‘No surprise here.’ The GOP has been doing this for over 53 years, ultimately resulting in today’s situation of workers gaining around 10 percent in wages over that 50+ year period while the corporate level and wealthy gained 300 to over 1,200 percent. Thus resulting in the current wide disparity in incomes in the US. Another fact is that in that 50+ year period, the top paid 1 percent have increased their ownership of all of America’s wealth from about 35 percent to about 50 percent. Fact is, approximately 40 percent of wage earners today are paid at or below the official poverty value. Facts show the Dems contributed to this as well, voting for such things as free trade with China, “Right to Work acts,” and immigration regulations allowing up to 140,000 foreigners a year to be hired by US companies and relocated to the US, taking good paying jobs from Americans. And this is exactly what trump is pushing as great economics. He has stated he wants more of the same for us (but says it will “Make America Great Again.” His support of corporations and the rich is exactly what destroyed our greatness over the last 50 years, and you have to be really stupid to believe his claims. They are just more lies.


“▪ continued tax increases across the board,” ‘About time! Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthy hurt our economy by hugely increasing the deficit. Want to solve the deficit increases? Tax the wealthy fairly and get rid of the tax loop holes the rich like Trump use to pay no taxes, further increasing the deficit. You cannot have it both ways. ‘ And this is absolute truth!!!


“▪ the ongoing fight to limit or deny our Constitutional rights.” That’s the biggest lie so far. Trump is responsible for inciting an insurrection for the purpose of ending democracy,’ lied like a snake about voting fraud, violating his oath of office,” and stated on the record that as president, he is not obligated to “support the constitution.” And now, that ultimate scammer actually stated on camera that after he wins election in 2024, in 2028, he will simply negotiate his return to office, in violation of the constitution, which he believes does not apply to him. In addition to supporting the efforts of evangelicals to ban abortions, an obvious violation of separation of church and state another denial of our constitutional rights to be free of religion if we so chose. And the SCOTUS approved killing the Roe V. Wade law because the GOP appointed the majority and financially bribes a couple of the Supreme Court judges as well, after refusing to let the democrats replace a member while Obama was in power. Just more scumbag political acts of the GOP in violation of everything America once stood for, and doing everything they can to support the corporate interests and the wealthy in their efforts to continue holding wages down and shove more in their own pockets. “And all the GOP has in this category is the democrat’s efforts to pass some rational controls on buying and selling guns to reduce the slaughter of innocents by idiots and criminals.”


“▪ increased crime and reduced penalties for said crimes.” ‘Don’t think I understand this one. Crime increased under trump due to increasing poverty. I’d like to see your evidence for increasing crime under Biden. I looked it up on the FBI website for trump’s record on this. And as I recall, most of the criminals recently released early were serving time for marijuana violations.’ Whoopie Do. That’s legal now in a lot of states, and more is coming. Just more hogwash from the liars at the GOP.


“▪ a nation without borders,” More hogwash. I’m waiting to listen to the republicans whine about the rising cost of harvesting fruit in the US. Historically, back in the 40’s, according to the INS, we had approximately 11 million people here from south of our border. Nobody from the poor immigrants group is taking jobs from Americans. They are doing jobs Americans will not do, such as picking strawberries and oranges here in Florida. I drive by strawberry fields and orange groves almost daily in season, and it is pretty obvious that white Americans are not there. This whole thing has the stench of racism about it. Living in Florida, I regularly see exactly who picks our fruit. And it is primarily Spanish speaking people, male and female.


“▪ government (Ds and Rs) ignoring and violating their oath of office to protect our citizens and this nation.” ‘Was that the result of Trump kissing up to Kim Yung Un, or asking Li Jinn Ping and Vladimir Putin to help him win the presidency?’ I watched his lips move when he asked for that help on public TV. “Otherwise, I have no idea what you are talking about.”


“▪ sending billions of unaccounted for tax dollars to support wars that are not in our national interest.” ‘Seems like a majority of Americans support that effort and support Israel’s right to exist. And I do believe Hamas struck first. And your statement is absolutely a matter of opinion. Not a fact.’


“▪ sending billions of unaccounted for tax dollars to support enemy nations.” ‘Which enemy nations? Name them. And I will bet they are counted. Which of our enemies are you claiming we are sending money to? I suspect this is another case of a matter of opinion, not a fact. But since you failed to name names, you did not provide much to go on. Are you suggesting Canada is our enemy?? Put up or shut up. Facts matter. Unsupported allegations do not.’


“▪ officials violating their oath of office by aiding and abetting our self professed enemies by handing them billions of dollars of hi-tech weapons and military equipment making them one of the top fighting forces in the world.” ‘Nice to see you know what trump did. But exactly which “self-professed” enemies are you talking about? It is difficult to address statements that actually say nothing because the information provided means nothing except to the person writing it.’ and they failed to identify which enemies, meaning that, actually, there were none. So, cease the lies. We know you are lying. Who is paying you to lie for trump?


“▪ providing favors and information to long term national enemies in turn for self riches.” ‘Last I read of the transcripts involved in the attempt to impeach Biden, there is no valid evidence this occurred. Valid evidence is that which can be confirmed by facts. So far, the transcripts show only supposition and assumptions. No valid evidence.’ And there is still no such verified evidence. Nothing but accusations.

“▪ a weakening and unprepared military, and…” ‘That, again, would be a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. If you cannot do better than splatter out a slew of opinions without facts and try to claim they are true, you really should not try to get people to believe your posts.’ People with thinking minds are not convinced of anything without verified evidence and the entire story. So, basically, your entire post is nothing but lies and bovine feces. How stupid do you have to be to think that educated, intelligent people will believe the horse manure?

“▪ government attacking, demonizing and penalizing American citizens for exercising their freedom of speech.” ‘Is that akin to trump declaring that when re-elected, he will jail or otherwise get even with those who did not support him? I read the transcript that said almost exactly that. That sounds exactly like what the GOP has stayed busy doing, such as representatives Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boebert? And frankly, it is my opinion that all political statements should be at least 90 percent true.’ But all we get is lies from both sides. I want term limits!

The truth is that both sides are crooked. As previously stated, I am neither a democrat nor a republican. I vote for the person and his or her morals, intelligence, and honesty. You really need to cease watching Fox news and its lies. I refuse to watch FOX, CNN or MSNBC and their lies. The lies were proven by the PEW Research Group. Back around 2016 or 2017. Their conclusion after approximately one year of study was that the percentages of each source of outright lies, half truths, some truth, or spin were as follows: FOX: 96%, CNN: 94%, MSNBC: 92%. I suggest you not waste your time watching any of these known sources of political falsehoods.
This post is a mix of my own thoughts and understa... (show quote)

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Your presentations prove and summarize that you Nick is dumb, a liar, with twisted brain. That is why you belong to the left!

Ecclesiastes 10:2: “The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

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Dec 29, 2023 09:50:43   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
microphor wrote:
The left are two faced liars and hypocrites.


All legitimate surveys conclude that the Republicans lies and cheat more than democrats. PEW Researsh group.

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Dec 29, 2023 09:57:58   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
All legitimate surveys conclude that the Republicans lies and cheat more than democrats. PEW Researsh group.


Ha ha ha ha ha ahh huh huh huh prove it.

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Dec 29, 2023 10:05:31   #
Justice101
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Don't lie Emily. Facts are facts. Check history yourself. Virtually none of my posts are opinion. I provide the facts, and those who do not want to understand call them opinions. But they cannot dispute them with facts because they have none. You cannot disprove any of them. The available evidence supports what I wrote. Have any questions? I'll answer with facts. You call me names, but they are false. I have spent my life helping others, and that is all I'm trying to do here. The truth shall set you free, to quote a famous politician. I forget which one.
Don't lie Emily. Facts are facts. Check history yo... (show quote)


You, Nick, will be forever known as an "OPP Official Pontificator" (OOP), and that is NOT a complimentary title.


https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/pontificate

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Dec 29, 2023 10:07:16   #
EmilyD
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
All legitimate surveys conclude that the Republicans lies and cheat more than democrats. PEW Researsh group.


Where on the PEW Research Center site does it say that?????

I searched in the PEW Research Center's own search box for "Republicans lie and cheat more than Democrats"...."Democrats do not lie as much as Republicans"...."Do Republicans lie more than Democrats" .... "Do Republicans cheat more than Democrats" .... "Statistics on lying by Republicans and Democrats" .... "Which party lies more, Republicans or Democrats"....and a few more tries at looking for ANYTHING where PEW says that Republicans lie and cheat more than Democrats. I found nothing.

So if you could please provide a link to that article, I would like to read it.

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Dec 29, 2023 10:11:06   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
All legitimate surveys conclude that the Republicans lies and cheat more than democrats. PEW Researsh group.


Another well documented survey says that children raised in conservative homes are more mentally sound and stable than those raised in your type of leftist environment.

Returning to your survey traditional American conservatives have not changed or compromised their morals, values, faith, family or love and respect of America. Evidently your preferred surveys base their analysis on the premise that the atheistic cultural Marxist Left now sets the new standards for truth and those in disagreements with their moral relativistic truths must be liars. And you actually question that we call you stupid.

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Dec 29, 2023 10:13:23   #
Justice101
 
EmilyD wrote:
Where on the PEW Research Center site does it say that?????

WHERE on their site is an article that says that?? , I searched in the PEW Research Center's own search box for "Republicans lie and cheat more than Democrats"...."Democrats do not lie as much as Republicans"...."Do Republicans lie more than Democrats" .... "Do Republicans cheat more than Democrats" .... "Statistics on lying by Republicans and Democrats" .... "Which party lies more, Republicans or Democrats"....and a few more tries at looking for ANYTHING where PEW says that Republicans lie and cheat more than Democrats. I found nothing.

So if you could please provide a link to that article, I would like to read it.

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Where on the PEW Research Center site does it say ... (show quote)


Maybe you should've looked under "Pew Researsh" instead Emily. Nick's spelling is terrible for someone who portends to "know it all".

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Dec 29, 2023 10:37:23   #
EmilyD
 
Justice101 wrote:
Maybe you should've looked under "Pew Researsh" instead Emily. Nick's spelling is terrible for someone who portends to "know it all".
👍😅

Maybe I should drink a bottle of something until I can't think straight and then I'll find it....

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Dec 29, 2023 10:45:06   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
EmilyD wrote:
👍😅

Maybe I should drink a bottle of something until I can't think straight and then I'll find it....

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Jeanette brought home a bottle of Scuppernong Wine from Pine Mountsin GA last week. Her sister and nieces picked her up and took her to lunch. We were going to crack it New Years Eve but we're willing to share. 🥳

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Dec 29, 2023 10:49:13   #
American Vet
 
padremike wrote:
Another well documented survey says that children raised in conservative homes are more mentally sound and stable than those raised in your type of leftist environment.

Returning to your survey traditional American conservatives have not changed or compromised their morals, values, faith, family or love and respect of America. Evidently your preferred surveys base their analysis on the premise that the atheistic cultural Marxist Left now sets the new standards for truth and those in disagreements with their moral relativistic truths must be liars. And you actually question that we call you stupid.
Another well documented survey says that children ... (show quote)


All legitimate surveys conclude that the Republicans lies and cheat more than democrats.

So a survey questioning honesty....OK - so Republicans as a rule are honest and respond truthfully: Yes, I lied to my mother-in-law. A democrat, who determines it's own moral values/codes, sees nothing wrong with lying on the answer - 'no, I do not lie or cheat'.

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Dec 29, 2023 10:54:51   #
EmilyD
 
padremike wrote:
Jeanette brought home a bottle of Scuppernong Wine from Pine Mountsin GA last week. Her sister and nieces picked her up and took her to lunch. We were going to crack it New Years Eve but we're willing to share. 🥳

Yum!! I'm in!!

We'll bring the chips and dip!! 🍾🍷🎉

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Dec 29, 2023 10:56:04   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
EmilyD wrote:
Where on the PEW Research Center site does it say that?????

I searched in the PEW Research Center's own search box for "Republicans lie and cheat more than Democrats"...."Democrats do not lie as much as Republicans"...."Do Republicans lie more than Democrats" .... "Do Republicans cheat more than Democrats" .... "Statistics on lying by Republicans and Democrats" .... "Which party lies more, Republicans or Democrats"....and a few more tries at looking for ANYTHING where PEW says that Republicans lie and cheat more than Democrats. I found nothing.

So if you could please provide a link to that article, I would like to read it.

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Where on the PEW Research Center site does it say ... (show quote)


He can't he lies

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Dec 29, 2023 11:01:08   #
EmilyD
 
Justice101 wrote:
Maybe you should've looked under "Pew Researsh" instead Emily. Nick's spelling is terrible for someone who portends to "know it all".


Mr. "know it all" doesn't seem to even know how to use spell check! 😅

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Dec 29, 2023 11:04:29   #
Gatsby
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
All legitimate surveys conclude that the Republicans lies and cheat more than democrats. PEW Researsh group.


All surveys conducted conducted here on OPP conclude that you Nick, are a Liar and a Fool.

PU Research group.

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