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Dec 24, 2023 15:48:39   #
Haski123
 
Justice101 wrote:
I agree. She didn't even know what the date of the rape was (so she said). What woman wouldn't remember the date and even the time she was raped? Unless she was fantasizing of being raped by Trump in a dressing room.
Some people said that she got the idea from a tv show years before.

E. Jean Carroll wasn't surprised 'Law & Order: SVU' aired Bergdorf Goodman rape scene 7 years before she made Trump allegations
https://www.businessinsider.com/e-jean-carroll-trump-trial-svu-episode-rape-bergdorf-goodman-2023-5?op=1

E. Jean Carroll alleges Donald Trump raped her in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in the 1990s.

"Law & Order: SVU" featured a rape scene at the same store in 2012.

In an email shown in court Monday, she dismissed the parallels as a coincidence.
I agree. She didn't even know what the date of the... (show quote)


Questioning evidence provided to jury of peers, or judge that unanimously found Trump guilty. I expect we will here the same if found guilty on the 91 open indictments, or upcoming defamation suits by Georgia election officials( after Rudy found guilty of defamation) or capital police.
You appear to have No belief in legal system if it’s against Trump. The juries and judges don’t always get it right but do most of the time.

If it appeared appealable Trump would have. Why are you retrying it here now. Poor form at best.

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Dec 24, 2023 15:49:47   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
EmilyD wrote:
I'm thinking this guy needs to look up the word "liar"....it doesn't mean "anyone who disagrees with anything I say"!

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Let us detach ourselves from this silly old atheist for a moment. I want to tell you how much we appreciate you Emily, really! When I came home from the hospital a few years back you shared things with Jeanette and myself that really helped us. I've never forgotten your kindness. Your strength, knowledge and common sense are an inspiration to many of us here on OPP. You, along with the other conservative ladies, are all an inspiration and a constant reminder of God's gift of genuine womanhood. You're all treasures. And to that end I want to thank you and send my sincere heartfelt blessings that you have a joyous Christmas and a healthy happy New Year.

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Dec 24, 2023 15:50:23   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
Knightlady wrote:
They would have to decide if this would be a first term or second term, first. Please give me a link about 2028. I don't recall him saying that. TYIA


hunted and found this link. Not certain this is where I originally saw his say he would negotiate for being appointed president in 2028 after wining in 2024. Forbes Magazine.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/09/13/trump-says-he-will-negotiate-third-term-because-hes-entitled-to-it/?sh=28a534ba287c

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Dec 24, 2023 15:55:01   #
Justice101
 
GPJohn wrote:
Boy you have drunk the Kool aid haven’t you? If there was anything to you Kushner story MSNBC, CNN would be all over it!! But like the socialist you are cry about workers wages, Minimum wage in this country is what $15 an hour, that wage is meant for the Macdonalds of the world not for people working there expecting to support a family!! I worked in the construction field for 40 years, I made decent money, my boss made a tom more however but without him I wouldn’t have the job. My last yearly salary before I retired to stay home and care for my wife was over $166,000, not to shabby for someone who graduated HS with only a handful of College Credits. I didn’t starve, my entire labor force were South Americans who all made Union scale which some actually making more then I did, so the owner of my company made an extremely good living, but he also allowed 40 other people to ride his coattails and make a decent living, buy homes I beat in 401K’s which the company also invested in. So who are the people you are raging against? Oh the left, the Disney’s, Ted Turners, of the world, so tell me, why aren’t you a Republican??
Boy you have drunk the Kool aid haven’t you? If th... (show quote)


The Federal Minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour. The majority of states (72%) have a minimum tax higher than the federal.

Federal and State Minimum Wage Rates, Annual
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/release/tables?eid=243906&rid=387

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Dec 24, 2023 15:58:34   #
American Vet
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
hunted and found this link. Not certain this is where I originally saw his say he would negotiate for being appointed president in 2028 after wining in 2024. Forbes Magazine.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/09/13/trump-says-he-will-negotiate-third-term-because-hes-entitled-to-it/?sh=28a534ba287c


Now find your link where he said he would "destroy democracy".......

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Dec 24, 2023 16:04:52   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
This post is a mix of my own thoughts and understandings of facts vs. lies with those of another intelligent individual who previously posted the basis in response to a boatload of known prevarications posted by a MAGA hat idiot spewing more lies
Nick Nicholson wrote:
And you remain the purveyor of false inormation you have proven yourself to be, time and again, as you malign me by calling me names that mean nothing and are false.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
The truth is, I call out the lies of the republicans, democrats, and MAGA idiots, which it seems includes you. You don't even have a decent comand of the English language and fail to even understand the names you call me. All you do is spread one lie after another and call facts and truth lies, with no basis in truth at all.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
I try to help my country by getting the truth out to voters, and you make up all kinds of stupid garbage about my intent. You really should learn facts and truth for a change. I really do not give a hoot that you think of me or my reasons for printing and writing facts and truth, as I know what you are.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
A woman without enough sense to even look for truth and facts. You just accept every lie that is fed to you by the MAGA liars.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
And another fool comments with no understanding of the facts and truth. And you cannot disprove anything I wrote because it is the truth. I guess I will count you in with those people who do not want to be confused with facts and truth.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
You really should try learning facts for a change. But you will not, because your mind is made up and you refuse to even consider truth or facts. So, you call me silly names like a child, thinking you have an effect on me. You do not, because I do not care what anyone thinks of me. Especially liars and fools.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Actually, you are just another liar and fool taken in by trumpers. You have no clue what America was like in the 50s and 60s when the economy and nation actually were great.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
The ones posting "alternate facts" are proven trumpers making up absurd lies about everything. Even claiming trump was cheated out of being elected again. Nothing but more isproven lies. That is all trump and his supporters do. Lie after lie.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Thank you for encouragement. I'm tired of being outnumbered by a huge pack of liars and fools who do nothing but lie and make stupid, false comments.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Best you can do? Then stop lying. Educate yourself on facts and accurate history for a change. But I know you will not, because you have been brainwashed by liars.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Try learning facts for a change. You will never get facts ftom a trump supporter.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Try proving my statements are false. You can't because they are true and historical data. And trumpers largely do nothing but lie.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Instead of remaining an ignorant liar, why don't you get a history book and learn some facts for a change? All you do on here is spread more lies. You cannot show my posts to be lies because they are factual and documented, and you are too lazy to educate yourself.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
You trump lovers are so gullible when listening to what you want to hear, regardless of the fact that what you are listening to is lies.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
I dare you to prove me wrong. You cannot, because calling historical facts lies does not make them lies. It only makes liars look stupid.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
And I ask you, prove that I am wrong. All you do is make more false statements and pass on the usual lies.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
All you are doing is repeating the lies you are being fed.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Lies, lies, and more lies.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Just more lies, Padre. You and your right wing liars are the exact reason why oureconomy has fallen as you bribed congress to pass laws that directly damaged the economy and our greatness as a nation .
Nick Nicholson wrote:
You really should stop lying by repeating the horse manure your biased sources tell you.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
I guess you don't like facts. No surprise. Right wingers never do.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Try coming up with something other than more religious lies, please.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
I know the truth. And that is all that really matters. Facts matter, not childish behavior.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
I cannot help you. Do you simply sit around reading what his apologists and talking head liars say?
Nick Nicholson wrote:
And I was exactly right, was I not? MAGA's have ignored it and called it lies.
Nick Nicholson wrote:
If trump's mouth is open, he is normally lying.

In roughly 5 billion years, our sun will nova and the earth will burn up.
5 billion years isn't enough time for you to explain how you became the supreme judge of human behavior.
Arrogant, self-righteous narcissists are bad enough, but those suffering a total God Complex are pathological catastrophes.

What does it mean to be human, nick?

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Dec 24, 2023 16:04:59   #
Haski123
 
martsiva wrote:
You are nothing but a parrot repeating the same BS - 'overthrow the government'!! Show us where he led troops down the halls of the capital to 'overthrow the government'!! Give us quotes where he said he would refuse to support the Constitution!! Come on - you made these comments - back them up!! It`s obvious that YOU sit around reading what Democrat apologists and talking head liars say!! Don`t run away like you always when I challenge you!! Back up your ludicrous lies!!!


Dec4 2020 Trump on truth social-
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote over the weekend, once again falsely asserting that there was widespread fraud in the 2020 election.
Dec5 2020 Trump stated he never said that “fake news” basically denying the entire quote. Also repeated fraudulent election lie. “ allows for the termination of all rules, …..even those found in the constitution.” He said it, to interpret as if he hadn’t means it was highly ambiguous but he said the words.

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Dec 24, 2023 16:07:35   #
Justice101
 
Haski123 wrote:
Questioning evidence provided to jury of peers, or judge that unanimously found Trump guilty. I expect we will here the same if found guilty on the 91 open indictments, or upcoming defamation suits by Georgia election officials( after Rudy found guilty of defamation) or capital police.
You appear to have No belief in legal system if it’s against Trump. The juries and judges don’t always get it right but do most of the time.

If it appeared appealable Trump would have. Why are you retrying it here now. Poor form at best.
Questioning evidence provided to jury of peers, or... (show quote)


That's not it at all. The Judge in the case didn't even allow forensic evidence to be presented on the defense side since Ms. Carroll said that she saved a piece of clothing from her alleged rape, and she had no witnesses of the time of the rape. Hearsay is evidence if you're a Democrat who has Trump as a defendant and the bar is lower in CIVIL case such as this which are for monetary damages.

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Dec 24, 2023 16:10:31   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
American Vet wrote:
Now find your link where he said he would "destroy democracy".......


Looks like his stated intent to violate the constitution by negotiating a third presidential term, his attempted insurrection and attempt to overthrow the will of the voters and have illegal electors declare him president wasn't clear enough for you? And his public statement that he was not required by oath to support the constitution ? And his recent Hitler style comments about the immigrants destroying American blood? Shall I continue? Add these to my prior remarks and tell me again how he is a truthful man who will uphold democracy and will not violate the constitution or destroy democracy with his refusal to follow the constitution and our election process? I'll wait. I guess you trust a guy who refuses to follow our constitution, violates our laws in an attempt to overturn a legitimate election, and who is an obvious racist in his own words. Not to mention the several other nazi-like actions he has undertaken.

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Dec 24, 2023 16:25:16   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Looks like his stated intent to violate the constitution by negotiating a third presidential term, his attempted insurrection and attempt to overthrow the will of the voters and have illegal electors declare him president wasn't clear enough for you? And his public statement that he was not required by oath to support the constitution ? And his recent Hitler style comments about the immigrants destroying American blood? Shall I continue? Add these to my prior remarks and tell me again how he is a truthful man who will uphold democracy and will not violate the constitution or destroy democracy with his refusal to follow the constitution and our election process? I'll wait. I guess you trust a guy who refuses to follow our constitution, violates our laws in an attempt to overturn a legitimate election, and who is an obvious racist in his own words. Not to mention the several other nazi-like actions he has undertaken.
Looks like his stated intent to violate the consti... (show quote)


WHAT NAZI LIKE ACTIONS??? THE ONLY NAZI I SEE IS SITTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!!!!!!

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Dec 24, 2023 16:33:38   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
In roughly 5 billion years, our sun will nova and the earth will burn up.
5 billion years isn't enough time for you to explain how you became the supreme judge of human behavior.
Arrogant, self-righteous narcissists are bad enough, but those suffering a total God Complex are pathological catastrophes.

What does it mean to be human, nick?


To me, to be acceptably human, you do what you can to preserve democracy, speak the truth as you know it, call out proven lies, try to show others facts when they make false statements, treat all races as equals, support separation of church and state, and support the constitution. Defend the rights of people to live their life without being forced to comply with religious beliefs. Truth, justice, and the American way. Period. I understand false information is being thrust upon people daily, and this is flat wrong and needs corrected and called out when repeated. That's me. Believe it. I'm no god, as no gods exist. I am simply a 79 year old retired engineer who believes in American democracy and who tries to call out lies when they show up.

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Dec 24, 2023 17:10:52   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Haski123 wrote:
Dec4 2020 Trump on truth social-
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote over the weekend, once again falsely asserting that there was widespread fraud in the 2020 election.
Dec5 2020 Trump stated he never said that “fake news” basically denying the entire quote. Also repeated fraudulent election lie. “ allows for the termination of all rules, …..even those found in the constitution.” He said it, to interpret as if he hadn’t means it was highly ambiguous but he said the words.
Dec4 2020 Trump on truth social- br “A Massive Fra... (show quote)


A lot of us believe there was fruad, hell even some dead people voted, how's that not fruad. Does that make us liars or believe something other then you do. Please don't repeat the "most secure election bullshit".

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Dec 24, 2023 17:11:20   #
Gatsby
 
Haski123 wrote:
Trump is a convicted criminal. Your statement is inaccurate.

Trump University fraud- guilty, Jean Carroll defamation and sexual abuse- guilty, NY fraud summary judgement- guilty .

Trump is a convicted criminal with 91 open indictments, numerous civil suits pending and numerous cash pre trial settlements. In addition, over 1000 j6 participants indicted many convicted claiming they were doing Trumps bidding. Finally his attorneys and other co conspirators have been found guilty or plea deals or still awaiting trial.
Trump is a convicted criminal. Your statement is i... (show quote)


Not a one of those was a criminal trial, you are wrong, and to ignorant to know it.

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Dec 24, 2023 17:17:37   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
And I was exactly right, was I not? MAGA's have ignored it and called it lies. The head king or prince of Saudi, cannot recall his name right now, but it can be looked up if you chose to check facts, has repeatedly given trump and his kids hundreds of millions and bought things from trump at inflated prices, and more. I read the details a year or so ago. It's OK if trump and his kids do it, but not if it is Biden or his son? Does that seem sot of two-facd to you? It does to me


The conversation wasn't about the above post. It was about you insulting people from the time you got on here but claim you were only retaliating to those who insulted you "there's the lie". I went back to your initial post.

"As far as the above post, Trump and his kids had legitimate businesses "they paid taxes on" before he even became President. Joe's family made money with "shell" companies using Joe's position. NOT the same and not hypocritical""

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Dec 24, 2023 17:36:07   #
EmilyD
 
padremike wrote:
Let us detach ourselves from this silly old atheist for a moment. I want to tell you how much we appreciate you Emily, really! When I came home from the hospital a few years back you shared things with Jeanette and myself that really helped us. I've never forgotten your kindness. Your strength, knowledge and common sense are an inspiration to many of us here on OPP. You, along with the other conservative ladies, are all an inspiration and a constant reminder of God's gift of genuine womanhood. You're all treasures. And to that end I want to thank you and send my sincere heartfelt blessings that you have a joyous Christmas and a healthy happy New Year.
Let us detach ourselves from this silly old atheis... (show quote)


What a nice thing to hear on Christmas Eve! Thank you, Mike! And I wish you and Jeanette a happy Christmas full of laughter and love with those you love surrounding you on the celebration of Jesus's birth!!

And I sincerely wish that the year to come brings good health for you both and your family!

Merry Christmas!! 🎄🎄🎄

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