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Dec 24, 2023 14:01:02   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
American Vet wrote:
So you cannot provide anything where he ‘promised to destroy democracy’.

You are simply another dishonest leftist. So much for your ‘morals’ and ‘honesty’.


Try reading for intent, if you are able to do that. I heard him, and what he said was exactly iin violatiion of everything America use to stand for: a government of laws, not of men. And he also said that after his term in the presidencey following 2024, he would simply negotiate to have himself appointed president in 2028. I assume you will next tell me that is constitutional? Right? And democratic, right? Try reading for understanding for a change.

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Dec 24, 2023 14:02:58   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
American Vet wrote:
If you wish to see ‘two-faced’, simply look in the mirror.


I would suggest you do the same. Why is it OK for trump to do it, but not Biden? Care to explain that one?

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Dec 24, 2023 14:03:03   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Justice101 wrote:
Yep, and she was trying to sell her fantasy book that mentioned that Trump raped her. It must have made her angry when Trump denied knowing who she was, as it would hurt her book sales. That is where the defamation
charge comes into the picture-and thus the civil judicial process.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/27/e-jean-carroll-trump-rape-trial-cross-examination
The advice columnist E Jean Carroll has denied that she falsely accused Donald Trump of raping her in order to sell books and for political ends.

On the third day of Carroll’s civil suit against the former president for battery and defamation, Trump’s lawyer, Joe Tacopina, put it to her that she made her allegation the centrepiece of a book proposal she was trying to sell.

Carroll is seeking damages for the alleged rape in a New York department store changing room in the mid-1990s and for defamation after Trump accused her of lying when she went public with her accusations in the book.
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Honestly I don't trust any woman who waits for 20 plus yrs before reporting and reporting for profit!

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Dec 24, 2023 14:05:41   #
Knightlady
 
slatten49 wrote:
Lord, will the accusations of TDS never end

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) was originally a made up condition, conceived as a derisive label by the alt-right to attack anyone who criticizes or refuses to support Donald Trump. The idea being that others are so obsessed with Trump that many have collectively lost their minds. Unfortunately for them, like many of their other little online crusades, this has backfired.

People dislike Trump for actual reasons which often go well beyond just politics or partisanship, and if anyone has 'TDS', it's often those that blindly support him. Too many have lost their sense of morality, religious convictions, principles, objectivity, all discernment, and sometimes even the ability to have a civil discussion. So, the term has now been co-opted by others to refer to those Trump supporters who are blinded by their unrealistic devotion to Trump.
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We're supposed to take MAGA as an insult why can't you guys take TDS on the chin. Oh wait...I should ask your pronoun since I don't hit girls

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Dec 24, 2023 14:06:15   #
Knightlady
 
proud republican wrote:
Honestly I don't trust any woman who waits for 20 plus yrs before reporting and reporting for profit!


Nope

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Dec 24, 2023 14:06:55   #
American Vet
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Try reading for intent, if you are able to do that. I heard him, and what he said was exactly iin violatiion of everything America use to stand for: a government of laws, not of men. And he also said that after his term in the presidencey following 2024, he would simply negotiate to have himself appointed president in 2028. I assume you will next tell me that is constitutional? Right? And democratic, right? Try reading for undrstanding for a change.


If you heard it, then you should be able provide the link where he said he ‘promised to destroy democracy’.

Time to prove you are not a liar.

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Dec 24, 2023 14:07:29   #
Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Oh yes, and by the way, here is a study demonstrating that religious people are NOT more moral than the rest of us. I'll dig up a few more results for you in addition to the one below. So, kindly stop claiming religious morality is better than non-religious morality in building America to the greatst nation in the world with the greatst economy. It did not and you are outright lying. Say, isn't that a violation of the morals you are supposed to conform to? In short, ALL legitimate studies prove that it was, indeed, the economy. Not some lies about religious people being more moral. That had nothing to do with it. Never has anywhere. Decent paychecks did, and those no longer exist, so the economy went down hill, along wiht our greatness as a nation. Religions do nothing but coninue to try to control government and force their beliefs on others. This world will be a far better place to live when the last religion is dead and gone. I'm also amazed that you somehow slept through the 50s nd 60s while the rest of us changed America into the greatest nation on earth, makking racism a bad thing, working for equality for all, and buildinig the greatest economy and quality of life in the world. And the fact is, if you do not have a great economy, you cannot have a great quality of life if you are not in the 1% that is wealhy. Try coming up with something other than more religious lies, please.

https://news.yahoo.com/religious-people-more-moral-170716231.html#:~:text=This%20finding%20has%20now%20been,likely%20believe)%20that%20they%20do.
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And as promised, here are a few more studies which found that non-religiou people are not less moral than reliious people. FACT again.
https://academic.oup.com/book/11828/chapter-abstract/160919895?redirectedFrom=fulltext

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/20/many-people-in-u-s-other-advanced-economies-say-its-not-necessary-to-believe-in-god-to-be-moral/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7904147/

https://today.uic.edu/do-atheists-have-a-moral-compass/

https://www.qcc.cuny.edu/socialSciences/ppecorino/PHIL_of_RELIGION_TEXT/CHAPTER_9_MORALITY_VALUES/Morality_Secular.htm

https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2019-31324-001

https://theconversation.com/are-religious-people-more-moral-84560#:~:text=This%20finding%20has%20now%20been,likely%20believe)%20that%20they%20do.

A quote from the above cited study: “This finding has now been confirmed in numerous laboratory and field studies. Overall, the results are clear: No matter how we define morality, religious people do not behave more morally than atheists, although they often say (and likely believe) that they do.”

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Dec 24, 2023 14:11:15   #
Knightlady
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Try reading for intent, if you are able to do that. I heard him, and what he said was exactly iin violatiion of everything America use to stand for: a government of laws, not of men. And he also said that after his term in the presidencey following 2024, he would simply negotiate to have himself appointed president in 2028. I assume you will next tell me that is constitutional? Right? And democratic, right? Try reading for undrstanding for a change.


They would have to decide if this would be a first term or second term, first. Please give me a link about 2028. I don't recall him saying that. TYIA

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Dec 24, 2023 14:17:40   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Try reading for intent, if you are able to do that. I heard him, and what he said was exactly iin violatiion of everything America use to stand for: a government of laws, not of men. And he also said that after his term in the presidencey following 2024, he would simply negotiate to have himself appointed president in 2028. I assume you will next tell me that is constitutional? Right? And democratic, right? Try reading for understanding for a change.


Who's liar now?? Here is article where Teump said he promised peaceful transfer of power in 2028..


https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/22/trump-biden-reelection-2020-00133089

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Dec 24, 2023 14:17:52   #
EmilyD
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Well, Emily, others call me liars as well, so I simply reply in kind, particularly when I am well aware that their views have ben shaped by the very people who are ripping off American workers and continuing to move more and more of America's wealth to the already rich. This is exactly what has hurt our economy and our greatness. When you gradually lower wages and hold them down below inflation year after year until another 15 pecent of America's wealth has gone to the already wealthy, the economy can only get worse. And that is exactly what has happened over the last 50+ years. Workers have less real spendable income, so the economy suffers. This is not an opinion. This is fact, covered by all available real data. The chart below is factual data showing what has happened.
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All that crap doesn't cover up the fact that you think your 💩 doesn't stink, and everyone who disagrees with you, you label a "liar". I have to say, even above permafrost and straightup....you are THE most arrogant, self-centered, egotistical person I have ever read on any forum.

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Dec 24, 2023 14:18:17   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Knightlady wrote:
They would have to decide if this would be a first term or second term, first. Please give me a link about 2028. I don't recall him saying that. TYIA


He never said that..

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Dec 24, 2023 14:19:21   #
Justice101
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
And I was exactly right, was I not? MAGA's have ignored it and called it lies. The head king or prince of Saudi, cannot recall his name right now, but it can be looked up if you chose to check facts, has repeatedly given trump and his kids hundreds of millions and bought things from trump at inflated prices, and more. I read the details a year or so ago. It's OK if trump and his kids do it, but not if it is Biden or his son? Does that seem sot of two-facd to you? It does to me


LOL. No proof that the Saudi Arabian Prince Mohammed bin Salman has "repeatedly given Trump and his kids hundreds of millions". Can you prove that he stayed at a Trump resort or bought things from Trump at inflated prices? Just because you say so, doesn't make it truth or even factual. Don't you know how to find factual articles on the internet to back up your statements?

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Dec 24, 2023 14:21:38   #
EmilyD
 
American Vet wrote:
I know the truth

You do? Then why are we still waiting for you to explain how you can call other people liars when you tell lies.

Earlier in this thread you posted “trump promising to destroy democracy”.

Provide your evidence/proof where Trump ‘promised’ this.

Or is it simply a lie on your part?

You are either going to continue to get crickets, or he will come back and give you the longest song and dance you've ever read about why his opinion is fact, and everyone else's is a lie.

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Dec 24, 2023 14:21:50   #
Knightlady
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
And I was exactly right, was I not? MAGA's have ignored it and called it lies. The head king or prince of Saudi, cannot recall his name right now, but it can be looked up if you chose to check facts, has repeatedly given trump and his kids hundreds of millions and bought things from trump at inflated prices, and more. I read the details a year or so ago. It's OK if trump and his kids do it, but not if it is Biden or his son? Does that seem sot of two-facd to you? It does to me


So, you are saying Biden is doing what Trump supposedly did. So in your opinion does that mean Biden is guilty too, since you Think Trump is?

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Dec 24, 2023 14:22:26   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
It is not about me. It is about American workers constantly having their wages held down over more then 50 years as more and more of the wealth in America goes to the already wealthy and corporate interests. I care noting about your silly name calling. Just more stupidiy due to your failure to actually seach for truth and facts over the years. You obviosly believe liars speak truth. I am trying to get truth out, in the face of major liars and the stupid who belive the lies. You and idiots like you are destroying America and will ultimatly be the reason for a revolt with a possible outcomne of the People's Republic of America. And I could care less what you call me or say about me. I know the truth. And that is all that really matters. Facts matter, not childish behavior.
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