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Dec 24, 2023 07:24:16   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
2quick4u wrote:
Give us all a break from the 'he's a big bully' garbage. Everyone he got into those nasty pissing contests with (which I assume are the ones that apparently really bother you) initially started the insult slinging... Obviously the TDS that is still affecting our loyal establishment worshipping political players (and w/o question, their distraught and over-emotional supporters, too..) is one of the main factors driving the incessant hatred and caustic vitriol being shown over and over towards DJT. The driver of this has become crystal clear (to anyone paying attention).. and it stems from the fact that he refuses to kiss their asses (and/or leave their swamp alone). Civilly disagreeing with him would invite a meaningful rebuttal-but talking crap was his 'key' (or invitation) to answer in kind.. and to do this immediately. Your side know's this.. but they also know the cheerleading lapdog media will conveniently leave out who initiated the mud slinging.. and that folks like you will enthusiastically promote them/their misrepresentations. Most of us (who aren't consumed w/debilitating TDS) are enjoying seeing him stand up to these big mouthed bloviating 'legends in their own minds'.. for the mountains of uncivil slander, intentional misrepresentations, unproven accusations, and/or outright lies being thrown at him, ad nauseum.. (by the establishment loving swamp rats who have pretty much seized control of that cesspool we used to call Washington, and their loyal supporters-apparently just like you).

He has never claimed.. not one time.. that he believes/believed that as our prez, he can do 'anything he wants'.

He has also shown much more respect for the office of the Prez-when it was earned and/or deserved-than the current occupants of the WH have ever shown him (or any previous conservative elected President).

Lastly.. like any sane or normal person knows.. you DO NOT surround yourself with folks you cannot trust and/or do not have confidence in-and that is just common sense.

Get help for your TDS.. it's definitely dragging you down...

LGB
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Lord, will the accusations of TDS never end

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) was originally a made up condition, conceived as a derisive label by the alt-right to attack anyone who criticizes or refuses to support Donald Trump. The idea being that others are so obsessed with Trump that many have collectively lost their minds. Unfortunately for them, like many of their other little online crusades, this has backfired.

People dislike Trump for actual reasons which often go well beyond just politics or partisanship, and if anyone has 'TDS', it's often those that blindly support him. Too many have lost their sense of morality, religious convictions, principles, objectivity, all discernment, and sometimes even the ability to have a civil discussion. So, the term has now been co-opted by others to refer to those Trump supporters who are blinded by their unrealistic devotion to Trump.

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Dec 24, 2023 07:42:29   #
American Vet
 
slatten49 wrote:
Lord, will the accusations of TDS never end

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) was originally a made up condition, conceived as a derisive label by the alt-right to attack anyone who criticizes or refuses to support Donald Trump. The idea being that others are so obsessed with Trump that many have collectively lost their minds. Unfortunately for them, like many of their other little online crusades, this has backfired.

People dislike Trump for actual reasons which often go well beyond just politics or partisanship, and if anyone has 'TDS', it's often those that blindly support him. Too many have lost their sense of morality, religious convictions, principles, objectivity, all discernment, and sometimes even the ability to have a civil discussion. So, the term has now been co-opted by others to refer to Trump supporters who are blinded by their unrealistic devotion to Trump.
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LOL

Junior high attempt to divert. Nice try Slats. No, actually not - a poor attempt.

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Dec 24, 2023 07:43:08   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
dwp66 wrote:
Wow! EmilyD has outdone herself! Let me re-word her comment to match her views, which she has posted here on this forum numerous times:

"You are the most biased Maga person I have ever read on any forum. You can deny that you are, but everything you post is anti-DEM, anti-Biden, anti-Biden supporters, and anti-anything else related to the Democratic party you can think of."

Fits perfectly, just like Cinderella's slipper. Hypocrisy much, Emily? Show me where I'm wrong.



Biden disaster:
American families have lost $7,400 due to inflation, rate hikes under Biden
The average American family has lost the equivalent of more than a month's salary in annual income since President Biden took office as high inflation and rising interest rates eat away at their finances, according to research by the Heritage Foundation.

Experts at the conservative think tank analyzed consumer prices and interest rates and found in their latest report released Thursday that the average American household has lost the equivalent of $7,400 in annual income since Biden's inauguration on Jan. 20, 2021. The income loss represents an increase of $200 from September when the think tank's research found a $7,200 decline in annual income for the average American household dating back to the start of Biden's term.

"Higher borrowing costs and declining real wages mean the average family is effectively $7,400 poorer today than when Biden took office," EJ Antoni, research fellow in regional economics with the Heritage Foundation's Center for Data Analysis, told FOX Business. "That is more than a month’s salary for many families and the equivalent of more than a 10% pay cut for the median household income."
Over the last year, Fed policymakers voted to raise interest rates seven straight times to a range of 4.25% to 4.5%. Economists expect another rate hike when Fed's rate-setting committee concludes a two-day meeting on Feb. 1.

Since 2023 began, Fed officials signaled that more rate hikes are on the way and that they plan to hold rates at elevated levels until inflation slows. Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell explained in remarks Tuesday that "restoring price stability when inflation is high can require measures that are not popular in the short term as we raise rates to slow the economy."

Unfortunately for Americans looking to buy a home, the Fed's rate hikes have led the interest rate for the benchmark 30-year fixed mortgage to rise by more than three percentage points in the last year from 3.22% to 6.48% as of last week.
That, in turn, has caused applications to decline as it gets harder for Americans to afford the monthly bill that comes with homeownership.

Antoni attributed the economic headwinds to the fiscal policies adopted by the Biden administration over the last two years. "The astronomical levels of spending, borrowing, and printing of money over the last two years have devalued the dollar and levied a hidden but heavy inflation tax on the American people."
Federal spending has soared in recent years, and Congress is once again approaching its statutory debt limit, which has swelled to nearly $31.4 trillion.
The debt limit will likely have to be raised by the middle of the year to avoid a default on the national debt if lawmakers end up at an impasse over partisan priorities.

While their elected representatives in D.C. struggle to pay the nation's bills, Americans are facing a similar challenge as their household budgets are stretched thin due to inflation and higher borrowing costs. Those financial challenges led more than one-third of households to rely on credit cards or loans to buy necessities in December. Average credit card interest rates reached a new record high of 19.14% APR compared to a Bankrate.com database.

"Americans are increasingly relying on credit cards to make it from paycheck to paycheck, resulting in higher levels of indebtedness. Rising credit card balances in an era of rising interest rates is a path to insolvency," Antoni told FOX Business. "The average interest rate on credit cards is now around 20 percent while half of Americans cannot pay off their credit cards each month, and balances are growing at a 16 percent annual rate."
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/americans-have-lost-7400-due-inflation-under-biden-heritage

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Dec 24, 2023 07:52:52   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
American Vet wrote:
LOL

Junior high attempt to divert. Nice try Slats. No, actually not - a poor attempt.

My day wouldn't be complete without responses by sad, would-be antagonists. I take your "poor attempt" comment to mean I didn't bring it down to your elementary level of comprehension.

Merry Christmas to ya', AV...and, a Happy New Year

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Dec 24, 2023 07:56:23   #
American Vet
 
slatten49 wrote:
My day wouldn't be complete without responses by sad, would-be antagonists. I take your "poor attempt" comment to mean I didn't bring it down to your elementary level of comprehension.


You took it wrong - but that is expected. Some concepts require a bit of critical thinking and I understand that might be difficult for those on the left.

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Dec 24, 2023 07:58:01   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
American Vet wrote:
You took it wrong - but that is expected. Some concepts require a bit of critical thinking and I understand that might be difficult for those on the left.

Again...

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Dec 24, 2023 07:58:33   #
American Vet
 
slatten49 wrote:
Again...


And right back at you.

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Dec 24, 2023 08:00:50   #
4522chief
 
I’m sorry but you are completely full of shit. You must be on Biden’s staff.

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Dec 24, 2023 08:05:41   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
This post is a mix of my own thoughts and understandings of facts vs. lies with those of another intelligent individual who previously posted the basis in response to a boatload of known prevarications posted by a MAGA hat idiot spewing more lies. Yes, Biden is a lousy president, but nowhere near as bad as trump, a thrice convicted con artist, fraudster, and sexual predator. Found guilty of these in three different courts of law including by a jury. And still under 91 indictments. So, here is another dose of truth, justice, and the American way – or what it was before trump was president. And anyone paying attention to trump promising to destroy democracy and violate the constitution really needs to think about what they are doing to this nation. And they need to cease believing anything on FOX, CNN, or MSNBC. And try to recall what America was like when we were a great nation with a great economy. And then get a valid education on exactly what brought us down, who did it, and why voting for the GOP and/or trump is a vote to continue destroying America’s greatness and our economy. Quotes below are from the previous author. Please note that anyone disagreeing with the messages below has exactly no proof of any of their claims to disagree, as the facts are not with them.

“a collapsing stock market,.” ‘Hogwash. The last time the market fell significantly, Trump was president. It cost me over $2,000 before I got out. And the market is coming up again now. And before that, Bush virtually destroyed the market, causing the “Great Recession.’ And the Great Depression was the direct result of GOP president Coolidge cutting taxes for the rich, eventually resulting in a huge balloon in the stock market values, and then the market crashed because of the balloon created by the wealthy having even more money to spend and nothing to spend it on that they needed money for. And THAT began the Great Depression.

“▪ government overreach and expansion,” ‘That is strictly a matter of opinion. I define overreach and expansion as the GOP pushing anti-abortion measures which violate the constitutional principle of separation of church and state.’ And I agree. Abortion is no one’s business but the persons directly involved and their doctor(s).

“▪ out of control national debt and increased government spending.” ‘ Trump set the standard for that when he cut taxes on the rich, causing the largest increase in the deficit in many years.’

“▪ politically weaponized DOJ, FBI and CIA.” ‘Nothing here but opinion and horse manure.’

“▪ the diluting of our educational standards and educational system,” ‘More BS. The education system has been being dumbed down for over 50 years, largely by the conservatives…’ and the churches refusing to increase pay for teachers or teaching science rather than religion, resulting in the best and brightest getting non-teaching jobs. Not to mention the spate of book banning going on, led by the GOP and the idiot governor of my state of residence, Florida.

“▪ crippling the American energy industry,” ‘More total BS. No truth in this, what so ever.’ Our energy industry is more profitable than ever, and we actually export crude oil. We have no need to import oil. America is totally oil independent. And the idiot Trump opened up our strategic reserves that were being held back for military purposes just so he could get lower prices – I ask at what cost?

“▪ stifling small businesses and business in general.” ‘The BS never stops with you, does it? Total hog wash. Small businesses are only hurt when the GOP passes laws designed to help major corporations, which is what they have been doing for the last 50 years. Give me an example of where they helped small businesses. I’ve never heard of one worth a dang.’ I’ll wait for your answer. Try finding one that contains at least some truth. You won’t, because your statement was nothing but one more lie.

“▪ increasing prices of goods and essentials outpacing wage increases for the middle class,” ‘No surprise here.’ The GOP has been doing this for over 53 years, ultimately resulting in today’s situation of workers gaining around 10 percent in wages over that 50+ year period while the corporate level and wealthy gained 300 to over 1,200 percent. Thus resulting in the current wide disparity in incomes in the US. Another fact is that in that 50+ year period, the top paid 1 percent have increased their ownership of all of America’s wealth from about 35 percent to about 50 percent. Fact is, approximately 40 percent of wage earners today are paid at or below the official poverty value. Facts show the Dems contributed to this as well, voting for such things as free trade with China, “Right to Work acts,” and immigration regulations allowing up to 140,000 foreigners a year to be hired by US companies and relocated to the US, taking good paying jobs from Americans. And this is exactly what trump is pushing as great economics. He has stated he wants more of the same for us (but says it will “Make America Great Again.” His support of corporations and the rich is exactly what destroyed our greatness over the last 50 years, and you have to be really stupid to believe his claims. They are just more lies.


“▪ continued tax increases across the board,” ‘About time! Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthy hurt our economy by hugely increasing the deficit. Want to solve the deficit increases? Tax the wealthy fairly and get rid of the tax loop holes the rich like Trump use to pay no taxes, further increasing the deficit. You cannot have it both ways. ‘ And this is absolute truth!!!


“▪ the ongoing fight to limit or deny our Constitutional rights.” That’s the biggest lie so far. Trump is responsible for inciting an insurrection for the purpose of ending democracy,’ lied like a snake about voting fraud, violating his oath of office,” and stated on the record that as president, he is not obligated to “support the constitution.” And now, that ultimate scammer actually stated on camera that after he wins election in 2024, in 2028, he will simply negotiate his return to office, in violation of the constitution, which he believes does not apply to him. In addition to supporting the efforts of evangelicals to ban abortions, an obvious violation of separation of church and state another denial of our constitutional rights to be free of religion if we so chose. And the SCOTUS approved killing the Roe V. Wade law because the GOP appointed the majority and financially bribes a couple of the Supreme Court judges as well, after refusing to let the democrats replace a member while Obama was in power. Just more scumbag political acts of the GOP in violation of everything America once stood for, and doing everything they can to support the corporate interests and the wealthy in their efforts to continue holding wages down and shove more in their own pockets. “And all the GOP has in this category is the democrat’s efforts to pass some rational controls on buying and selling guns to reduce the slaughter of innocents by idiots and criminals.”


“▪ increased crime and reduced penalties for said crimes.” ‘Don’t think I understand this one. Crime increased under trump due to increasing poverty. I’d like to see your evidence for increasing crime under Biden. I looked it up on the FBI website for trump’s record on this. And as I recall, most of the criminals recently released early were serving time for marijuana violations.’ Whoopie Do. That’s legal now in a lot of states, and more is coming. Just more hogwash from the liars at the GOP.


“▪ a nation without borders,” More hogwash. I’m waiting to listen to the republicans whine about the rising cost of harvesting fruit in the US. Historically, back in the 40’s, according to the INS, we had approximately 11 million people here from south of our border. Nobody from the poor immigrants group is taking jobs from Americans. They are doing jobs Americans will not do, such as picking strawberries and oranges here in Florida. I drive by strawberry fields and orange groves almost daily in season, and it is pretty obvious that white Americans are not there. This whole thing has the stench of racism about it. Living in Florida, I regularly see exactly who picks our fruit. And it is primarily Spanish speaking people, male and female.


“▪ government (Ds and Rs) ignoring and violating their oath of office to protect our citizens and this nation.” ‘Was that the result of Trump kissing up to Kim Yung Un, or asking Li Jinn Ping and Vladimir Putin to help him win the presidency?’ I watched his lips move when he asked for that help on public TV. “Otherwise, I have no idea what you are talking about.”


“▪ sending billions of unaccounted for tax dollars to support wars that are not in our national interest.” ‘Seems like a majority of Americans support that effort and support Israel’s right to exist. And I do believe Hamas struck first. And your statement is absolutely a matter of opinion. Not a fact.’


“▪ sending billions of unaccounted for tax dollars to support enemy nations.” ‘Which enemy nations? Name them. And I will bet they are counted. Which of our enemies are you claiming we are sending money to? I suspect this is another case of a matter of opinion, not a fact. But since you failed to name names, you did not provide much to go on. Are you suggesting Canada is our enemy?? Put up or shut up. Facts matter. Unsupported allegations do not.’


“▪ officials violating their oath of office by aiding and abetting our self professed enemies by handing them billions of dollars of hi-tech weapons and military equipment making them one of the top fighting forces in the world.” ‘Nice to see you know what trump did. But exactly which “self-professed” enemies are you talking about? It is difficult to address statements that actually say nothing because the information provided means nothing except to the person writing it.’ and they failed to identify which enemies, meaning that, actually, there were none. So, cease the lies. We know you are lying. Who is paying you to lie for trump?


“▪ providing favors and information to long term national enemies in turn for self riches.” ‘Last I read of the transcripts involved in the attempt to impeach Biden, there is no valid evidence this occurred. Valid evidence is that which can be confirmed by facts. So far, the transcripts show only supposition and assumptions. No valid evidence.’ And there is still no such verified evidence. Nothing but accusations.

“▪ a weakening and unprepared military, and…” ‘That, again, would be a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. If you cannot do better than splatter out a slew of opinions without facts and try to claim they are true, you really should not try to get people to believe your posts.’ People with thinking minds are not convinced of anything without verified evidence and the entire story. So, basically, your entire post is nothing but lies and bovine feces. How stupid do you have to be to think that educated, intelligent people will believe the horse manure?

“▪ government attacking, demonizing and penalizing American citizens for exercising their freedom of speech.” ‘Is that akin to trump declaring that when re-elected, he will jail or otherwise get even with those who did not support him? I read the transcript that said almost exactly that. That sounds exactly like what the GOP has stayed busy doing, such as representatives Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boebert? And frankly, it is my opinion that all political statements should be at least 90 percent true.’ But all we get is lies from both sides. I want term limits!

The truth is that both sides are crooked. As previously stated, I am neither a democrat nor a republican. I vote for the person and his or her morals, intelligence, and honesty. You really need to cease watching Fox news and its lies. I refuse to watch FOX, CNN or MSNBC and their lies. The lies were proven by the PEW Research Group. Back around 2016 or 2017. Their conclusion after approximately one year of study was that the percentages of each source of outright lies, half truths, some truth, or spin were as follows: FOX: 96%, CNN: 94%, MSNBC: 92%. I suggest you not waste your time watching any of these known sources of political falsehoods.
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Boy you can run on. I could barely get through it, got angrier and angrier. My quality of life tells me who was the better President "it isn't Biden"!!

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Dec 24, 2023 08:40:35   #
Turtle keeper
 
[quote=America 1]
Nick Nicholson wrote:
Trump was conducted of fraud over Trump University and fined $25 million.


How did Trump "conduct?"

Supreme Court rejects Jack Smith’s request for justices to quickly hear Trump's immunity dispute
The Supreme Court on Friday rejected a request by special counsel Jack Smith to fast-track arguments on whether Donald Trump has any immunity from federal prosecution for alleged crimes he committed while in office – a move that will likely delay his trial.
The court did not explain its reasoning and there were no noted dissents.
The court’s decision is a major blow to Smith, who made an extraordinary gamble when he asked the justices to take the rare step of skipping a federal appeals court and quickly deciding a fundamental issue in his election subversion criminal case against Trump.

Both sides will still have the option of appealing an eventual ruling by the DC Circuit Court of Appeals up to the high court, but the court’s move is a major victory for Trump, whose strategy of delay in the criminal case included mounting a protracted fight over the immunity question, which must be settled before his case goes to trial.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/22/politics/supreme-court-trump-immunity-jack-smith/index.html
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I saw that there are 3 Lawyers filing a brief to the Supreme Court asking to Remove Jack Smith from the position he has been illegally appointed to. He was appointed by the AG not the President he never sat before congressional review and approval. I saw the article and now having a problem finding it again. Since Jack Smith is in the DOj illegally any and all of what he has done cannot stand. He had no right or authority to file charges and argue in front of the court.

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Dec 24, 2023 09:07:50   #
Gatsby
 
slatten49 wrote:
Lord, will the accusations of TDS never end

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) was originally a made up condition, conceived as a derisive label by the alt-right to attack anyone who criticizes or refuses to support Donald Trump. The idea being that others are so obsessed with Trump that many have collectively lost their minds. Unfortunately for them, like many of their other little online crusades, this has backfired.

People dislike Trump for actual reasons which often go well beyond just politics or partisanship, and if anyone has 'TDS', it's often those that blindly support him. Too many have lost their sense of morality, religious convictions, principles, objectivity, all discernment, and sometimes even the ability to have a civil discussion. So, the term has now been co-opted by others to refer to those Trump supporters who are blinded by their unrealistic devotion to Trump.
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Clearly, your own case of TDS remains active.

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Dec 24, 2023 09:14:58   #
Jimmy Boy
 
Nick Nicholson wrote:
This post is a mix of my own thoughts and understandings of facts vs. lies with those of another intelligent individual who previously posted the basis in response to a boatload of known prevarications posted by a MAGA hat idiot spewing more lies. Yes, Biden is a lousy president, but nowhere near as bad as trump, a thrice convicted con artist, fraudster, and sexual predator. Found guilty of these in three different courts of law including by a jury. And still under 91 indictments. So, here is another dose of truth, justice, and the American way – or what it was before trump was president. And anyone paying attention to trump promising to destroy democracy and violate the constitution really needs to think about what they are doing to this nation. And they need to cease believing anything on FOX, CNN, or MSNBC. And try to recall what America was like when we were a great nation with a great economy. And then get a valid education on exactly what brought us down, who did it, and why voting for the GOP and/or trump is a vote to continue destroying America’s greatness and our economy. Quotes below are from the previous author. Please note that anyone disagreeing with the messages below has exactly no proof of any of their claims to disagree, as the facts are not with them.

“a collapsing stock market,.” ‘Hogwash. The last time the market fell significantly, Trump was president. It cost me over $2,000 before I got out. And the market is coming up again now. And before that, Bush virtually destroyed the market, causing the “Great Recession.’ And the Great Depression was the direct result of GOP president Coolidge cutting taxes for the rich, eventually resulting in a huge balloon in the stock market values, and then the market crashed because of the balloon created by the wealthy having even more money to spend and nothing to spend it on that they needed money for. And THAT began the Great Depression.

“▪ government overreach and expansion,” ‘That is strictly a matter of opinion. I define overreach and expansion as the GOP pushing anti-abortion measures which violate the constitutional principle of separation of church and state.’ And I agree. Abortion is no one’s business but the persons directly involved and their doctor(s).

“▪ out of control national debt and increased government spending.” ‘ Trump set the standard for that when he cut taxes on the rich, causing the largest increase in the deficit in many years.’

“▪ politically weaponized DOJ, FBI and CIA.” ‘Nothing here but opinion and horse manure.’

“▪ the diluting of our educational standards and educational system,” ‘More BS. The education system has been being dumbed down for over 50 years, largely by the conservatives…’ and the churches refusing to increase pay for teachers or teaching science rather than religion, resulting in the best and brightest getting non-teaching jobs. Not to mention the spate of book banning going on, led by the GOP and the idiot governor of my state of residence, Florida.

“▪ crippling the American energy industry,” ‘More total BS. No truth in this, what so ever.’ Our energy industry is more profitable than ever, and we actually export crude oil. We have no need to import oil. America is totally oil independent. And the idiot Trump opened up our strategic reserves that were being held back for military purposes just so he could get lower prices – I ask at what cost?

“▪ stifling small businesses and business in general.” ‘The BS never stops with you, does it? Total hog wash. Small businesses are only hurt when the GOP passes laws designed to help major corporations, which is what they have been doing for the last 50 years. Give me an example of where they helped small businesses. I’ve never heard of one worth a dang.’ I’ll wait for your answer. Try finding one that contains at least some truth. You won’t, because your statement was nothing but one more lie.

“▪ increasing prices of goods and essentials outpacing wage increases for the middle class,” ‘No surprise here.’ The GOP has been doing this for over 53 years, ultimately resulting in today’s situation of workers gaining around 10 percent in wages over that 50+ year period while the corporate level and wealthy gained 300 to over 1,200 percent. Thus resulting in the current wide disparity in incomes in the US. Another fact is that in that 50+ year period, the top paid 1 percent have increased their ownership of all of America’s wealth from about 35 percent to about 50 percent. Fact is, approximately 40 percent of wage earners today are paid at or below the official poverty value. Facts show the Dems contributed to this as well, voting for such things as free trade with China, “Right to Work acts,” and immigration regulations allowing up to 140,000 foreigners a year to be hired by US companies and relocated to the US, taking good paying jobs from Americans. And this is exactly what trump is pushing as great economics. He has stated he wants more of the same for us (but says it will “Make America Great Again.” His support of corporations and the rich is exactly what destroyed our greatness over the last 50 years, and you have to be really stupid to believe his claims. They are just more lies.


“▪ continued tax increases across the board,” ‘About time! Trump’s tax cuts for the wealthy hurt our economy by hugely increasing the deficit. Want to solve the deficit increases? Tax the wealthy fairly and get rid of the tax loop holes the rich like Trump use to pay no taxes, further increasing the deficit. You cannot have it both ways. ‘ And this is absolute truth!!!


“▪ the ongoing fight to limit or deny our Constitutional rights.” That’s the biggest lie so far. Trump is responsible for inciting an insurrection for the purpose of ending democracy,’ lied like a snake about voting fraud, violating his oath of office,” and stated on the record that as president, he is not obligated to “support the constitution.” And now, that ultimate scammer actually stated on camera that after he wins election in 2024, in 2028, he will simply negotiate his return to office, in violation of the constitution, which he believes does not apply to him. In addition to supporting the efforts of evangelicals to ban abortions, an obvious violation of separation of church and state another denial of our constitutional rights to be free of religion if we so chose. And the SCOTUS approved killing the Roe V. Wade law because the GOP appointed the majority and financially bribes a couple of the Supreme Court judges as well, after refusing to let the democrats replace a member while Obama was in power. Just more scumbag political acts of the GOP in violation of everything America once stood for, and doing everything they can to support the corporate interests and the wealthy in their efforts to continue holding wages down and shove more in their own pockets. “And all the GOP has in this category is the democrat’s efforts to pass some rational controls on buying and selling guns to reduce the slaughter of innocents by idiots and criminals.”


“▪ increased crime and reduced penalties for said crimes.” ‘Don’t think I understand this one. Crime increased under trump due to increasing poverty. I’d like to see your evidence for increasing crime under Biden. I looked it up on the FBI website for trump’s record on this. And as I recall, most of the criminals recently released early were serving time for marijuana violations.’ Whoopie Do. That’s legal now in a lot of states, and more is coming. Just more hogwash from the liars at the GOP.


“▪ a nation without borders,” More hogwash. I’m waiting to listen to the republicans whine about the rising cost of harvesting fruit in the US. Historically, back in the 40’s, according to the INS, we had approximately 11 million people here from south of our border. Nobody from the poor immigrants group is taking jobs from Americans. They are doing jobs Americans will not do, such as picking strawberries and oranges here in Florida. I drive by strawberry fields and orange groves almost daily in season, and it is pretty obvious that white Americans are not there. This whole thing has the stench of racism about it. Living in Florida, I regularly see exactly who picks our fruit. And it is primarily Spanish speaking people, male and female.


“▪ government (Ds and Rs) ignoring and violating their oath of office to protect our citizens and this nation.” ‘Was that the result of Trump kissing up to Kim Yung Un, or asking Li Jinn Ping and Vladimir Putin to help him win the presidency?’ I watched his lips move when he asked for that help on public TV. “Otherwise, I have no idea what you are talking about.”


“▪ sending billions of unaccounted for tax dollars to support wars that are not in our national interest.” ‘Seems like a majority of Americans support that effort and support Israel’s right to exist. And I do believe Hamas struck first. And your statement is absolutely a matter of opinion. Not a fact.’


“▪ sending billions of unaccounted for tax dollars to support enemy nations.” ‘Which enemy nations? Name them. And I will bet they are counted. Which of our enemies are you claiming we are sending money to? I suspect this is another case of a matter of opinion, not a fact. But since you failed to name names, you did not provide much to go on. Are you suggesting Canada is our enemy?? Put up or shut up. Facts matter. Unsupported allegations do not.’


“▪ officials violating their oath of office by aiding and abetting our self professed enemies by handing them billions of dollars of hi-tech weapons and military equipment making them one of the top fighting forces in the world.” ‘Nice to see you know what trump did. But exactly which “self-professed” enemies are you talking about? It is difficult to address statements that actually say nothing because the information provided means nothing except to the person writing it.’ and they failed to identify which enemies, meaning that, actually, there were none. So, cease the lies. We know you are lying. Who is paying you to lie for trump?


“▪ providing favors and information to long term national enemies in turn for self riches.” ‘Last I read of the transcripts involved in the attempt to impeach Biden, there is no valid evidence this occurred. Valid evidence is that which can be confirmed by facts. So far, the transcripts show only supposition and assumptions. No valid evidence.’ And there is still no such verified evidence. Nothing but accusations.

“▪ a weakening and unprepared military, and…” ‘That, again, would be a matter of opinion, not a matter of fact. If you cannot do better than splatter out a slew of opinions without facts and try to claim they are true, you really should not try to get people to believe your posts.’ People with thinking minds are not convinced of anything without verified evidence and the entire story. So, basically, your entire post is nothing but lies and bovine feces. How stupid do you have to be to think that educated, intelligent people will believe the horse manure?

“▪ government attacking, demonizing and penalizing American citizens for exercising their freedom of speech.” ‘Is that akin to trump declaring that when re-elected, he will jail or otherwise get even with those who did not support him? I read the transcript that said almost exactly that. That sounds exactly like what the GOP has stayed busy doing, such as representatives Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Boebert? And frankly, it is my opinion that all political statements should be at least 90 percent true.’ But all we get is lies from both sides. I want term limits!

The truth is that both sides are crooked. As previously stated, I am neither a democrat nor a republican. I vote for the person and his or her morals, intelligence, and honesty. You really need to cease watching Fox news and its lies. I refuse to watch FOX, CNN or MSNBC and their lies. The lies were proven by the PEW Research Group. Back around 2016 or 2017. Their conclusion after approximately one year of study was that the percentages of each source of outright lies, half truths, some truth, or spin were as follows: FOX: 96%, CNN: 94%, MSNBC: 92%. I suggest you not waste your time watching any of these known sources of political falsehoods.
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Dec 24, 2023 09:22:04   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
Turtle keeper wrote:
I saw that there are 3 Lawyers filing a brief to the Supreme Court asking to Remove Jack Smith from the position he has been illegally appointed to. He was appointed by the AG not the President he never sat before congressional review and approval. I saw the article and now have a problem finding it again. Since Jack Smith is in the DOJ illegally any and all of what he has done cannot stand. He had no right or authority to file charges and argue in front of the court.



Was Jack Smith's appointment unconstitutional? He has no more authority than Taylor Swift, amicus brief argues
BY DEBRA CASSENS WEISS
DECEMBER 21, 2023
Special counsel Jack Smith’s appointment was unconstitutional, leaving him powerless to obtain a quick U.S. Supreme Court decision on immunity claims by former President Donald Trump, according to an amicus brief signed by former U.S. Attorney General Edwin Meese and two law professors.

“Not clothed in the authority of the federal government, Smith is a modern example of the naked emperor,” the Dec. 20 amicus brief argues. “Improperly appointed, he has no more authority to represent the United States in this court than Bryce Harper, Taylor Swift, or Jeff Bezos.”

The law professors who co-wrote the brief with Meese are Steven G. Calabresi of the Northwestern University Pritzker School of Law and Gary S. Lawson of the Boston University School of Law.
https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/was-jack-smiths-appointment-unconstitutional-he-has-no-more-authority-than-taylor-swift-amicus-brief-argues

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Dec 24, 2023 09:28:10   #
Jimmy Boy
 
Nick,you give your credibility away right off the start.By calling people names!No one can get a fair trial where it’s fixed,they should have the trials in med America,let the chips fall where they should.But they can not.You Nick need a long NAP because you are super WOKE!

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Dec 24, 2023 10:28:29   #
son of witless
 
Unintended Consequences wrote:
You want to know why he scares us? It is because he believes that as president he can do whatever he wants. He can ignore what Congress wants. He plans to take revenge on anyone who has been disloyal to him. Don't believe me listen to what he says. This is a man who is a bully. It started with the Republican debates in 2015. He ridiculed each Of his opponents on the debate stage. Think of how many people he fired in his first four years. Why? Because they were disloyal. These actions are the actions of a king. Is that really what you want?
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You seem to be delusional. Presidents are checked in their exercise of power by our system of shared power. The closest any President in recent history has been to being able to enjoy his dictatorial impulses was Barak Insane Obama. He jammed his destructive Marxist wet dreams down America's throat because he had ginormous majorities in both houses of congress.

Trump likely will not have such majorities in Congress. You obviously are very ignorant.

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