A response to the misinformation being spread by MAGA liars (Page 8): Just like you!

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Nick Nicholson wrote:

Best you can do? Then stop lying. Educate yourself on facts and accurate history for a change. But I know you will not, because you have been brainwashed by liars.

Just like you!

Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA

Justice101 wrote:

If you're talking about the 60's school and societal segregation, civil rights abuses and LBJ's "Great Society" that have cost the US trillions and destroyed the Black nuclear family but failed to ease poverty with their hand-out welfare programs then you can talk to yourself because anybody that have experienced the opposite of what you're talking about would certainly see your statements as your opinion and nothing else.

You are still full of horse manure. Bitching about things you do not understand. Including the fact that the years in question include the winning efforts to stop racism and provide equality for blacks and other races. THAT is when the fight against those racist abuses began. Check the dates for Martin Luthor King's "I have a dream..." WE the people of that generation started the struggles for equality. So, cease your stupidity and absence of knowledge. Try learning facts for a change. You will never get facts ftom a trump supporter.

2quick4u Loc: Somewhere in central Tx...

Ricktloml wrote:

Having allegiance to a political party isn't that ... (show quote)

Good and accurate rant Rick... He didn't have to do this.. but b/c he did.. we have been shown how selfish, self-serving, power hungry, and dangerous our current governing system has absolutely become. Those who criticize him loudest are generally the worst and most misguidedly brainwashed blowhards who are generally driven by jealous envy and selfish greed (of other peoples successes-something they definitely don't deserve and/or will probably never legitimately earn)...

LGB

Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA

proud republican wrote:

Just like you!

A challenge. Try proving my statements are false. You can't because they are true and historical data. And trumpers largely do nothing but lie. Idiots all still lying about the democrats stealing the election, when the known facts deal with trump's attempts to steal the election with phony electors and thousands of lies.

Nick Nicholson Loc: Florida, USA

Ricktloml wrote:

Leftists don't really have any use for facts...they get in the way of their failed-every-time-it's-tried lying/murderous Left-Wing agenda.

Instead of remaining an ignorant liar, why don't you get a history book and learn some facts for a change? All you do on here is spread more lies. You cannot show my posts to be lies because they are factual and documented, and you are too lazy to educate yourself.

Hydro

martsiva wrote:

No he is not about the Republican party - he is about this country!!

Martsiva I agree with you - Trump did not need to go thru the gauntlet that Biden created- he could have walked away he didn’t need the money or work 15/16 hours a day - it isn’t an ego trip as he could have played that card anytime with what he has - he did it to stop the incessant Demcratic attempts to control the populous in everything we do - just take a good look at what Biden has done to this country in 3 years - citizens having to choose between paying their bills like mortgages and utilities or food and gas to get to work to pay those bills - none of this was prevalent in Trumps tenure -

padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al

Nick Nicholson wrote:

Actually, you are just another liar and fool taken in by trumpers. You have no clue what America was like in the 50s and 60s when the economy and nation actually were great. So, perhaps you are simply too young to remember the truth. So you make false statements. And you fail to know history that proves the GOP has done its best to hold down wages over the last 50 years. You have never known what a great economy is actually like. Maybe you can be excused for your lack of real knowledge.

Having been born in 1940 I was very much around in the 50's & 60's, a time of innocence. The nation was great because Democrats & Republicans compromised as best they could on politics yet they shared the very same morals, values, faith, love of family and respect for our nation. Eventually, incrementally you atheistic cultural Marxist usurped an already morally schizophrenic Democrat Party and turned it into the most evil and destructive force, more dangerous to our Republic than the combined efforts of all our enemies, past and present, ushered against us. We no longer share those traditional morals, values, faith etc. We are, therefore, an extremely divided people. Rightly so.

It's a hell of a lot more than just the economy stupid.

America 1 Loc: South Miami

Nick Nicholson wrote:

The ones posting "alternate facts" are proven Trumpers making up absurd lies about everything. Even claiming Trump was cheated out of being elected again. Nothing but more is proven lies. That is all Trump and his supporters do. Lie after lie.

Are you a resident of Broward County?

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Nick Nicholson wrote:

Actually, you are just another liar and fool taken in by trumpers. You have no clue what America was like in the 50s and 60s when the economy and nation actually were great. So, perhaps you are simply too young to remember the truth. So you make false statements. And you fail to know history that proves the GOP has done its best to hold down wages over the last 50 years. You have never known what a great economy is actually like. Maybe you can be excused for your lack of real knowledge.

NYT: The Reagan Boom, Greatest Ever

Reagan's Legacy: Our 25-Year Boom
By Investor's Business Daily
April 10, 2009

Golden Age: After 25 years of record-setting economic performance around the world, set off by President Reagan's free-market policies, the world has fallen into a recession. Is this the inevitable end of an era?

Let's go back to 1982, in many ways the bleakest year since the Depression. The economy had emerged severely damaged by the stagflation of the 1970s. Americans' confidence, both in government and in the economy, had reached a low ebb in 1980. Many felt our best years lay behind us.

On the nations' campuses and even in some of its boardrooms, people were talking about capitalism as a failed system.

Some advocated a "third way" between socialism and capitalism, as in Europe, which would include heavy doses of government intervention in markets to bring them back to life. Still others took up the call in E.F. Schumacher's best-seller, "Small Is Beautiful," to downsize expectations. Live frugally, they said. Inhabit small houses. Drive small cars. Don't use oil. Rein in your ambitions.

One man didn't agree with this: President Ronald Reagan, elected in 1980 amid a wave of voter disgust at his predecessor's failures.

It was Reagan who brought America's capitalist economy roaring back to life, ending energy price controls, slashing income tax rates by 25% and dramatically reducing tax rates on capital gains.

Americans had been told for years — as they're now being told again — to expect diminished standards of living. Then they watched as the Reagan years set in place one of the most durable and remarkable booms in incomes and wealth in history.

Yet the media and academia rarely credited Reagan for his accomplishments — especially on the economy, where "Reaganomics" became a term of opprobrium among the intelligentsia.

But it's a fact. As the nonpartisan National Bureau of Economic Research once declared, we lived in the "longest sustained period of prosperity in the 20th century" from 1982 to 1999 — one big boom, the NBER said, set off by Reagan.

Reagan's magic was simple. He wanted to lower interest rates, slash inflation, cut unemployment and boost economic growth. These things, at the time, seemed impossible. But he did it.

The so-called misery index — that is, unemployment plus inflation — hit 21% as Reagan was elected in 1980. By the time his terms were over, it had plunged to around 9%.

Interest rates likewise plunged — contrary to the predictions of many pundits, who boldly predicted that the budget deficits which emerged in the 1980s would send rates spiraling upward. From a stratospheric 21% in 1980, the prime rate fell to 7% by decade's end.

During the 1970s, many Americans for the first time saw incomes shrink. But from 1981 to 1989, median real household income rose by $4,000. The poorest Americans, who saw their incomes fall 5% in the 1970s, watched their incomes rise 6% in the 1980s.

After the staunchly free-market Reagan, things got a bit rocky.

President George H.W. Bush's four years included some mistakes and questionable moves — a record rise in regulations, for one, and the infamous breaking of his "no new taxes" pledge that, after 1991's mild recession, handed the 1992 election to Bill Clinton.

President Clinton won largely because he promised change. He had also promised a middle-class tax cut, among other things.

But his popularity plunged when, instead of cutting taxes, he raised them by a record amount. That tax hike contributed to one of the slowest economic recoveries from a recession since WWII.

The young Arkansan president looked like a one-termer.

But things changed. Slashing defense spending after the collapse of communism (another Reagan victory), Clinton and the new GOP Congress in 1994 started to shrink the deficit. Clinton sounded Reaganesque declaring: "The era of big government is over."

Meanwhile, after raising interest rates in 1994, Fed chief Alan Greenspan began cutting them as inflation and the deficit fell. The economy and the stock market soared. Budget surpluses emerged.

The Reagan era's star companies begat the Internet boom; they helped save Clinton's presidency. Two stand out: In 1993, Intel unveiled its Pentium chip. In 1995, Microsoft released Windows 95.

By 1996, the economy was rocking and so was the stock market. Employing his famous policy of "triangulation," Clinton wisely signed welfare reform into law, bringing millions of people off the dole and into the productive work force, many for the first time.

A year later, and with much less fanfare, Clinton signed into law a tax bill produced by the Republican Congress to cut capital gains tax rates. The result was the record boom of 1997 to 2000, the result of which was an unprecedented expansion of wealth.

Indeed, this 25-year Reagan boom was the most profoundly democratic era of capitalism ever. In 1980, just 16% of all workers owned stock. By 2000, that had expanded to 52%. Stock ownership moved from Wall Street to Main Street.

Even so, President George W. Bush inherited a mess in 2000. The Nasdaq was at the tail end of a record plunge — which began in 1999 after the Fed aggressively raised rates to quell inflation and end "irrational exuberance." As Bush entered office, the economy was already in recession. Job growth was nil. The 9/11 attacks that killed 3,000 cast a pall over the nation's spirit and the economy.

Still, Bush managed to push through two major tax cuts. The second one, in 2003, helped set off a five-year growth spurt that went all but uncovered by the nation's media.

What's more, as a backdrop to the Reagan boom, the world's economy likewise moved strongly in a free-market direction, adding more output in the last 25 years than in all of history. In 1980, world GDP was just $11 trillion, World Bank data show. By 2007, it had soared to $54 trillion, the greatest economic surge in history.

Hundreds of millions of people were pulled from abject poverty into something resembling a middle-class existence.

Today the question is: Can Reagan's free-market miracle survive? Or was it just a brief interlude of history?

President Obama has presided over the greatest expansion of government in history. Spending on the various bailouts and stimulus programs now totals $4 trillion — about a third of our total national output. And it looks to grow even bigger.

He has proposed new taxes and new rules that will put the government's hand into our lives as never before. Expanding government spending from the 50-year average of 20% of GDP or so to as much as 25% will require sweeping new taxes — and not just on the rich.

A shocking new Rasmussen Poll shows that just 53% think capitalism is superior to socialism — despite the fact that socialism, wherever it's been tried, has brought misery and poverty.

So is Reagan's dream of free-market capitalism dead? Or is it just sleeping, as in the 1970s, waiting for a new champion to emerge?

Hydro

Nick Nicholson wrote:

Actually, you are just another liar and fool taken in by trumpers. You have no clue what America was like in the 50s and 60s when the economy and nation actually were great. So, perhaps you are simply too young to remember the truth. So you make false statements. And you fail to know history that proves the GOP has done its best to hold down wages over the last 50 years. You have never known what a great economy is actually like. Maybe you can be excused for your lack of real knowledge.

Well Nick I can remember my father working two and sometimes 3 jobs to make ends meet - can also remember him excusing himself from the table to make sure his children and my mom had enough - was in the military in 1962 during Nam when the Democrats chose to expand the conflict into a full blown war - my bet you never were in Nam or the military but you spout off like you know everything - I was there and lived thru hard times so go peddle your BS somewhere else

Justice101

Nick Nicholson wrote:

You are still full of horse manure. Bitching about... (show quote)

Don't tell me that I'm "bitching about things that I don't understand". I understand more than you obviously, and I was totally aware of what was happening during the 1960's. Just because you had it easy, doesn't mean that others didn't pull themselves up to achieve goals and dreams without help from Government welfare.

I postulated how you misunderstand other people and create your own version of how we must look at history through YOUR EYES ONLY and you come back with immature insults.

Did I tick you off commiserating how LBJ's "Great Society " was an outrageous failure?
It appears so, since you had to come back with MLK's "I have a Dream".

Here's some links for you to read and absorb facts.

https://www.history.com/news/brown-v-board-of-education-the-first-step-in-the-desegregation-of-americas-schools

https://daily.jstor.org/how-residential-segregation-looked-in-the-south/

https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/freedom-rides

https://manhattan.institute/article/the-forgotten-failures-of-the-great-society

https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/what-happened-lbjs-great-society

https://freedomandprosperity.org/2021/blog/big-government/the-failure-of-lyndon-johnsons-great-society/

Turtle keeper

Nick Nicholson wrote:

The ones posting "alternate facts" are proven trumpers making up absurd lies about everything. Even claiming trump was cheated out of being elected again. Nothing but more isproven lies. That is all trump and his supporters do. Lie after lie.

No you think it’s night time when it really is day time. I saw someone ask you if you would be happier in California. I didn’t see your answer. They love alternate facts like you do.

Turtle keeper

Nick Nicholson wrote:

Actually, you are just another liar and fool taken in by trumpers. You have no clue what America was like in the 50s and 60s when the economy and nation actually were great. So, perhaps you are simply too young to remember the truth. So you make false statements. And you fail to know history that proves the GOP has done its best to hold down wages over the last 50 years. You have never known what a great economy is actually like. Maybe you can be excused for your lack of real knowledge.

More alternate facts told by Nick

Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA

EmilyD wrote:

Thanks! I get sick of these "I'm neither Democrat nor Republican, but here's what I think: I hate Trump, I hate the GOP, I hate Conservatives,I hate Trump, I hate the GOP, I hate Conservatives, I hate Trump, I hate the GOP........etc., etc. etc...."

I hate Christians, I hate freedom, I hate gunowners, I hate truth, I hate intelligence, I hate differing opinions... The list of liberal hate is ad infinitum

Jim0001 Loc: originally from Tennessee, now Virginia, USA

Hydro wrote:

Well Nick I can remember my father working two and sometimes 3 jobs to make ends meet - can also remember him excusing himself from the table to make sure his children and my mom had enough - was in the military in 1962 during Nam when the Democrats chose to expand the conflict into a full blown war - my bet you never were in Nam or the military but you spout off like you know everything - I was there and lived thru hard times so go peddle your BS somewhere else

I can almost guarantee Nick the prick is not a veteran. He has never served anything other than himself ( if He is the correct pronoun). He couldn't get through the ASVAB to even get in. Plus there is nothing in the battery forntrolls.