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This is wrong!!!.. If a woman's life is in danger, Supreme Court should not let a man to decide if and when she should have an abortion..l
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Dec 14, 2023 17:04:07   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Yeah, to hell with the men, if mom wants to kill their baby, dad has no right to save the life of his son or daughter.


But he gets to pay for it if mom wants to keep even if he doesn't. Sounds like leftist equity!

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Dec 14, 2023 18:12:32   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
DASHY wrote:
Abortion laws make no sense. Year 2020 marked the first time that a majority of legal (reported) abortions in the U.S. involved pills. 86% of women who had abortions were unmarried. Most abortion laws allow these sexy single women to have free access to abortion pills that will "kill the baby" in the first few weeks of pregnancy. When the pregnancy reaches the stage where the unborn life of the baby has been judged non-viable and health risks to the mother are apparent, abortion laws step in and try to prevent the mother from receiving life-saving treatment.
Abortion laws make no sense. Year 2020 marked the... (show quote)


Stop exaggerating! ………….

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Dec 14, 2023 22:20:45   #
Ready player 1
 
DASHY wrote:
I never killed anyone. "Don't get pregnant" is great planned parenting advice. Couples having sex could use more planning advice. Planned Parenthood is a good place to get that sort of thing.



Let's get real here for a moment. Let's talk about the what if's.... let's say your father or brother think incest is best. What about all those women who can't take the pill. What about those women who are drug raped. How about the ones who are sex trafficked. Should all women wear chastity belts? You can't put all women in one basket and call it a day. What about the women who develop medical issues during their pregnancy. There will always be exceptions. I do think there should be a limit on abortions. My opinion is 12 weeks.

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Dec 15, 2023 10:34:54   #
DASHY
 
Parky60 wrote:
So killing someone is my "belief"? Tell me slick, how does one "kill the baby" for a few weeks?


Abortion laws require compromise and do not necessarily follow moral beliefs. When an abortion law allows legal abortion up to 6 weeks of pregnancy it allows one to "kill the baby" for a few weeks.

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Dec 15, 2023 11:00:39   #
DASHY
 
Parky60 wrote:
Read the TRUE story behind this case.

EXCELLENT NEWS: The Texas Pro-Abortion Crowd Just Got Some Really Disappointing News

The Texas pro-abortion crowd received some very disappointing news on Wednesday.

According to the New York Times, Texas's abortion laws sent the number of abortions performed in the state spiraling downward from thousands and thousands to just over 30 and they are not happy about it:

Texas has publicly reported only 34 abortions so far this year, down from more than 50,000 in 2020, before the first of the severe restrictions went into effect.

That steep decline has occurred even though there have not yet been any prosecutions under the state bans, nor any significant lawsuits against doctors or hospitals. The mere threat of ruinous civil litigation or a lifetime in prison has been enough.

“Essentially, what we have is that no one will take responsibility,” said Molly Duane, a lawyer with the Center for Reproductive Rights who represented Ms. Cox and her doctor. “The court isn’t taking responsibility. The medical board isn’t taking responsibility. And in the meantime, doctors are more afraid than ever, and real patients’ lives hang in the balance.”


That last line from abortion lawyer Molly Duane about lives hanging in the balance is a bit of an exaggeration. Her client, Kate Cox, is currently being used as an example by the pro-abortion industry as to how cruel the Texas abortion laws supposedly are.

As was reported on Tuesday, Cox was forced to journey across state lines to get an abortion performed on her unborn baby after it was diagnosed with Trisomy 18, a chromosomal disorder that has a low rate of survivability. Because Texas laws allow for abortions to occur if the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother, and Trisomy 18 only threatens the baby, the Texas Supreme Court denied her the abortion.

As reported, while Trisomy 18 does have a high death rate, it is not guaranteed to be fatal, and more is being done to help these children thanks to the family of former Senator Rick Santorum:

Trisonomy 18 (or Edwards Syndrome) is not always a fatal diagnosis. It's a troubling one that can result in pregnancy complications, birth defects, and a stillborn birth. But trying to paint it solely as destructive to the child and the mother is wrong. How do we know? Because families have chosen to ignore a diagnosis or a warning and have allowed their child to go to full term. Santorum and his wife Karen made this choice in 2008. While in utero, their daughter Isabella (Bella) was diagnosed with Trisomy 18, and the odds were laid out to them: Only 10 percent of babies diagnosed with Trisomy 18 survive past birth, and of those who do, only 10 percent live to see their first birthday. The surviving babies tend to have heart and lung defects and severe intellectual limitations. The Santorums are devout Catholics (they have eight children) and chose life despite the diagnosis. Bella just celebrated her 15th birthday, and the Santorums help other families who have received this diagnosis but choose life to manage this condition emotionally and, more importantly, medically.

The first lie that the New York Times told in this story is that patients' lives hang in the balance, referring to the women in question. However, this is not the case as 34 abortions have been performed to save the lives of mothers, wiping out that argument. The second lie is that every diagnosis that would complicate a child's life is somehow automatically fatal, but this has also been proven to be an exaggeration meant to elicit emotions from listeners more than understanding.

The pro-abortion crowd in Texas is telling on itself here. They're admitting that children without complications are the only ones who should get the privilege of life, and one has to wonder what kind of message that sends to adults who were once born with birth defects and complications themselves.

Are these abortion activists willing to tell these people they wish they had been aborted to their faces?
Read the TRUE story behind this case. br br b EX... (show quote)


The true story behind the abortion case in Texas:

Texas women must leave their homes to get their abortions in another state.

Doctors in Texas are afraid to treat pregnant women.

Pro-life senator Rick Santorum gives us an example of his true devout catholic belief by having 8 children.

The pro-abortion crowd knows that the pregnant woman and her personal, trusted advisers are in the best position to know if and when to have an abortion.

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Dec 15, 2023 11:06:27   #
DASHY
 
Ready player 1 wrote:
Let's get real here for a moment. Let's talk about the what if's.... let's say your father or brother think incest is best. What about all those women who can't take the pill. What about those women who are drug raped. How about the ones who are sex trafficked. Should all women wear chastity belts? You can't put all women in one basket and call it a day. What about the women who develop medical issues during their pregnancy. There will always be exceptions. I do think there should be a limit on abortions. My opinion is 12 weeks.
Let's get real here for a moment. Let's talk about... (show quote)


It is OK with you to "kill the baby" within the first 12 weeks of pregnancy? What if medical issues occur after the 12 weeks is up? Should the woman have the right to choose how to tread her medical condition?

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Dec 16, 2023 07:31:40   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
DASHY wrote:
Abortion laws require compromise and do not necessarily follow moral beliefs. When an abortion law allows legal abortion up to 6 weeks of pregnancy it allows one to "kill the baby" for a few weeks.


Sounds like murder to me. The left don't the death penalty for threats to society but hey, if you want to kill a harmless baby "no problem".

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Dec 16, 2023 07:35:34   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
DASHY wrote:
The true story behind the abortion case in Texas:

Texas women must leave their homes to get their abortions in another state.

Doctors in Texas are afraid to treat pregnant women.

Pro-life senator Rick Santorum gives us an example of his true devout catholic belief by having 8 children.

The pro-abortion crowd knows that the pregnant woman and her personal, trusted advisers are in the best position to know if and when to have an abortion.


Listen, I'm a woman. Just moved from the filthy, high cost, unsafe state of California. My choice. If you don't like where you live and the laws you live under, move. Why does everyone have to change for you/your beliefs. That's the law of that state, don't like it, there are neighboring states. Can't afford it, get another job, save the money and move.

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Dec 16, 2023 10:28:15   #
DASHY
 
microphor wrote:
Sounds like murder to me. The left don't the death penalty for threats to society but hey, if you want to kill a harmless baby "no problem".


It is not considered "murder" in a state that allows abortion (killing) up to 6 weeks of pregnancy.

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Dec 16, 2023 10:39:48   #
DASHY
 
microphor wrote:
Listen, I'm a woman. Just moved from the filthy, high cost, unsafe state of California. My choice. If you don't like where you live and the laws you live under, move. Why does everyone have to change for you/your beliefs. That's the law of that state, don't like it, there are neighboring states. Can't afford it, get another job, save the money and move.



California abortion law gives the woman the right to choose throughout her pregnancy until "viability." This one makes sense and recognizes womens' rights to privacy.

What are the abortion laws in California 2023?
Right now, abortion is legal in California until "viability," which is the stage of pregnancy when a fetus has developed enough that it is able to survive outside the uterus with medical help.

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Dec 16, 2023 11:24:25   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
DASHY wrote:
It is not considered "murder" in a state that allows abortion (killing) up to 6 weeks of pregnancy.


We can say that about a lot of things. So if you don't want to abide by the laws of the state "abortion is murder" move to a state where it's not. The point is "it's law in that state! Move

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Dec 16, 2023 11:28:01   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
DASHY wrote:
California abortion law gives the woman the right to choose throughout her pregnancy until "viability." This one makes sense and recognizes womens' rights to privacy.

What are the abortion laws in California 2023?
Right now, abortion is legal in California until "viability," which is the stage of pregnancy when a fetus has developed enough that it is able to survive outside the uterus with medical help.


Don't care what their abortion laws are as long as they can't force me to have an abortion or others to commit it. And if you think Cal is a great place to live because of it's abortion laws, have at it.

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Dec 17, 2023 08:59:40   #
son of witless
 
DASHY wrote:
California abortion law gives the woman the right to choose throughout her pregnancy until "viability." This one makes sense and recognizes womens' rights to privacy.

What are the abortion laws in California 2023?
Right now, abortion is legal in California until "viability," which is the stage of pregnancy when a fetus has developed enough that it is able to survive outside the uterus with medical help.


Why is the ability to survive outside of the uterus such an important point to you ? If we had a similar standard we could kill everyone in intensive care, who could not survive without medical machinery.

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Dec 17, 2023 11:33:09   #
DASHY
 
son of witless wrote:
Why is the ability to survive outside of the uterus such an important point to you ? If we had a similar standard we could kill everyone in intensive care, who could not survive without medical machinery.


The California abortion law recognizes the woman's right to make her own health care decisions throughout her pregnancy without interference from government regulation. It attempts to describe the beginning of a new life as when the baby has the ability to survive outside of the uterus.

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Dec 17, 2023 17:05:36   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
DASHY wrote:
The California abortion law recognizes the woman's right to make her own health care decisions throughout her pregnancy without interference from government regulation. It attempts to describe the beginning of a new life as when the baby has the ability to survive outside of the uterus.

Many aborted babies have the ability to survive outside the uterus given a chance slick.

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