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Dec 11, 2023 12:16:49   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
keepuphope wrote:
Very few do an action without a return on that action especially if it comes at a cost to them. That is literally human nature and we all are guilty to a certain extent.



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Dec 11, 2023 13:21:16   #
WEBCO
 
Liberal Lily wrote:
You are correct. COVID was the catalyst behind the whole debacle. I'm just trying to be fair, blaming the blameless is not right. With all due respect, I can't quite buy into the control factor, not that you're wrong necessarily, just really really hard to believe.


Then why did they continue to push demonstrably false lies on the populace? Why were schools ever closed, and kept closed? Why did they push a harmful experimental drug on everybody when effective alternatives were available? Why did they lie about its origins?

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Dec 11, 2023 13:45:26   #
Liberal Lily
 
WEBCO wrote:
Then why did they continue to push demonstrably false lies on the populace? Why were schools ever closed, and kept closed? Why did they push a harmful experimental drug on everybody when effective alternatives were available? Why did they lie about its origins?


Mistakes were made. Origin was not known for certain. Why did trump keep saying it would magically disappear, thus ignoring it for months, losing valuable time to save hundreds or thousands of lives?

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Dec 11, 2023 14:16:03   #
albertk
 
Liberal Lily wrote:
Mistakes were made. Origin was not known for certain. Why did trump keep saying it would magically disappear, thus ignoring it for months, losing valuable time to save hundreds or thousands of lives?





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Dec 11, 2023 14:18:56   #
albertk
 
Liberal Lily wrote:
You are correct. COVID was the catalyst behind the whole debacle. I'm just trying to be fair, blaming the blameless is not right. With all due respect, I can't quite buy into the control factor, not that you're wrong necessarily, just really really hard to believe.



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Dec 11, 2023 14:30:44   #
Liberal Lily
 
Grow up.

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Dec 11, 2023 14:36:10   #
albertk
 
Liberal Lily wrote:
Grow up.





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Dec 11, 2023 14:39:31   #
XXX Loc: Somewhere north of the Mason-Dixon
 
Liberal Lily wrote:
Grow up.


Lier!

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Dec 11, 2023 15:13:54   #
WEBCO
 
Liberal Lily wrote:
Mistakes were made. Origin was not known for certain. Why did trump keep saying it would magically disappear, thus ignoring it for months, losing valuable time to save hundreds or thousands of lives?


Mistakes were made? Maybe in the very beginning. Three months into covid19 we knew children didn't contract or spread it, yet schools remained closed for another year and a half for purely political reasons. We also knew that it came from the lab in this time period, yet Fauci continued to push lies, why?

Because nothing that was being pushed saved any lives. It did disappear, it mutated and became harmless. At least more harmless than its original version.

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Dec 11, 2023 15:21:17   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
Liberal Lily wrote:
Mistakes were made. Origin was not known for certain. Why did trump keep saying it would magically disappear, thus ignoring it for months, losing valuable time to save hundreds or thousands of lives?


I think he was trying to be encouraging in a time of great fear. He was busy behind the scenes cutting red tape to turbo a vaxx in record time. Which he did in a matter of months which is unheard of. But he's not a Dr. and trusted them to know what they were doing.

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Dec 11, 2023 15:25:20   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Liberal Lily wrote:
I don't think you are capable of changing.


Do you really think that those of us who have been the brunt of your vicious, vulgar, evil attacks and lies against our family believe that you are capable of changing? Your flip flopping from attacker to victim has been your MO since you showed up on this forum from KP! Below are several of your disgusting, vulgar, lying attacks against me and my family…….…It doesn’t get any lower than this! So don’t pretend to be anything more than the disgusting person that you are, Kitty Kitty!
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“I would love to see her canceled for life. She has nothing to offer any thinking, decent person. And, of course, she lies. She lies each and every time she pulls any idea from her dripping, rotting head.

I can think of a few places for her to spend the rest of her miserable life, but I would never encumber anyone with her.

Her son, his wife, and their child don't have anything to do with her, because the wife caught her getting her jollies on while changing the grandchild's diaper. Sadly, she was never prosecuted for her vile crimes against children.”……..

“Does your daughter remember what your husband did?”………..

“Is your daughter-in-law still pushing the Courts for you to have a sexual predator sign on your license plate and other documents? What did you do to your granddaughter? Did you get tingly and wet when you first held her? How does your husband feel knowing he's married to a pedophile?”………..

“Texa thinks I'm special because I rarely get messages from Admin, so that puts a bundle in her pants.”……………

“You can't bring an accusation to anyone when YOU have done some sick stuff to your granddaughter. Your dog doesn't hunt. Well he IS dead, so there's that.”………
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At least you admitted who you really are in the comment below to Emily! Too bad you don’t want to do something about it! 🤷🏻‍♀️

“ I KNOW I am not a good person. I'm not even a nice person. I can get personal and cross the line of decency. Sometimes I even enjoy being wicked and taking humor from inappropriate things. My heart is not always sweet, nor in the right place. I tell stories, some of which are not true. “

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Dec 11, 2023 15:28:40   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Liberal Lily wrote:
Mistakes were made. Origin was not known for certain. Why did trump keep saying it would magically disappear, thus ignoring it for months, losing valuable time to save hundreds or thousands of lives?


I could ask the same, why did the Democrats insist Trump not shut down flights from countries with the highest count of infection, calling him a racist for it. Yet Pelosi ran around in China town "un-masked" like spreading Covid wasn't a concern, she did the same by going to the hair dresser (nobody else was allowed to) and the elitist left, including Nancy's nephew Gavin, attended the Chinese Laundry unmasked like it was no concern, while we weren't even allowed to go into a grocery store unmasked.

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Dec 11, 2023 15:53:24   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
WEBCO wrote:
Mistakes were made? Maybe in the very beginning. Three months into covid19 we knew children didn't contract or spread it, yet schools remained closed for another year and a half for purely political reasons. We also knew that it came from the lab in this time period, yet Fauci continued to push lies, why?

Because nothing that was being pushed saved any lives. It did disappear, it mutated and became harmless. At least more harmless than its original version.



Worthy of mention, the swine flu had 3 times the mortality rate,, Covid-19 less than the seasonal flu.
According to patent dates, the vaccine came out long before anyone had heard of covid. When ever before has a vaccine been created/produced before a virus pandemic? Covid has been circling around the globe for over a generation, chances are high that anyone 40 years or older, has had covid several times over their lifespan.
There is a mountain of evidence that the left was in the know from the beginning and before (government)
Then there is Remdesivir. Fauci completely steered away from long standing highly successful hospital treatments, replaced by ventilators (which after just 72 hours of use, triple the mortality rate) and remdesivir. Remdesivir trial (one only) had ten volunteers, the trial was stopped early when two required kidney transplants, 3 required dialysis and claims of up to a 60% mortality rate without intervention. Begs the question how many tens of thousands were murdered ( hundreds of thousands?) A direct effect of Fauci 's standards of care? Then there are the mortician across America reporting the long strings of bloodcloats? Reports of (estimated) over 200,000 deaths by heartattack, cancer, Auto accidents, gun shots ect, ect and doctors listed covid as death. Hundreds of doctors/nurses have come forward with the truths, the left calls right-wing extremists conspiracy theories....hmmm.
Interesting that these doctors/nurses claims first hand, their interviews by journalists could easily be searched for, but now scrubbed from the internet and in there place claims to "debunk" misinformation by left rag sources.
In November 2020 dad passed away, our brother 47years of age, aunt 55, cousins soon to be bride 34 all in a two and half week period. All healthy, all given remdesivir, all listed cause of death...covid, kidney failure.
Pyzer is paying out billions in settlements for fraudulent claims on FDA approval of remdesivir and Fauci knew, as well as the deepstate. People dying from ventilators, remdesivir being claimed as covid that caused panic, to drive the vaccine and test run for future mass control of populations.

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Dec 11, 2023 16:01:06   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
keepuphope wrote:
I think he was trying to be encouraging in a time of great fear. He was busy behind the scenes cutting red tape to turbo a vaxx in record time. Which he did in a matter of months which is unheard of. But he's not a Dr. and trusted them to know what they were doing.


Trump was lied to by fauci, deep state. The vaccine was already designed before covid. The only thing needing to happen was emergency authorization allowing the poison and making millions of doses.
The greatest scam pulled off on the world's population.
I am bothered at Trump's silence of the danger of these vaccines and the scam of the pandemic. Trump has endorsed getting vaccinated as a choice.

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Dec 11, 2023 16:05:46   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
Trump was lied to by fauci, deep state. The vaccine was already designed before covid. The only thing needing to happen was emergency authorization allowing the poison and making millions of doses.
The greatest scam pulled off on the world's population.
I am bothered at Trump's silence of the danger of these vaccines and the scam of the pandemic. Trump has endorsed getting vaccinated as a choice.


He also said he wasn't getting another booster. He believes in freedom, thus your choice unlike Biden who made it mandatory or lose your job get kicked out of the service. And they scream he is a dictator. Actions speak louder than words.

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