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Nov 16, 2023 15:00:25   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
ACP45 wrote:
I am simply trying to provide a bit of balance on the Israeli/Palestinian issue.
No you're not.
The following false statement is proof you have a decidedly pro-Palestinian (read Hamas) agenda.
ACP45 wrote:
Israel has been a criminal state bent on destroying the very existence of Palestinian people.


A week ago, the IDF cleared a corridor from the north of Gaza where Hamas is entrenched down to the Egyptian gate where "humanitarian aid" is coming in truck loads. As of the report, secured and protected by IDF troops,
900,000 Palestinian civilians have reached safety.

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Nov 16, 2023 16:49:52   #
pegw
 
I think everyone needs to face facts. Listen, the Palestinians are treated like scum by the Israelis. This has been true for at least 50 years. Now the Israelis are herding the Palestinians out of southern Gaza. So just what is going to happen? Looks like there isn't any place they can go to. This looks like the Israelis are going to make all the peope in Gaza homeless.
If the Palestinians and Israelis put one quarter of the hate they feel for each other, and used it for peace, they could rule the world.

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Nov 16, 2023 18:38:55   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
A week ago, the IDF cleared a corridor from the north of Gaza where Hamas is entrenched down to the Egyptian gate where "humanitarian aid" is coming in truck loads. As of the report, secured and protected by IDF troops,
900,000 Palestinian civilians have reached safety.


And I stand by my statement Blade. Just to be clear, when I say " Israel is a criminal state bent on destroying the Palestinian people", I am referring to the Zionist government in Israel. There are many Israeli Jews who are of like mind.

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Nov 16, 2023 19:47:24   #
EmilyD
 
pegw wrote:
I think everyone needs to face facts. Listen, the Palestinians are treated like scum by the Israelis. This has been true for at least 50 years. Now the Israelis are herding the Palestinians out of southern Gaza. So just what is going to happen? Looks like there isn't any place they can go to. This looks like the Israelis are going to make all the peope in Gaza homeless.
If the Palestinians and Israelis put one quarter of the hate they feel for each other, and used it for peace, they could rule the world.
I think everyone needs to face facts. Listen, the ... (show quote)


You need to think about why it is that no country wants these Arabs. Egypt? nope. Jordan? Nope. Both countries have adamantly stated they will NOT be accepting "refugees" from Gaza. Hamas (which the people of Gaza elected) is not a peace-keeping organization, obviously. And they have shown that they not only want to kill people, they want to butcher them....slaughter them....in front of each other and their family members. The more gruesome the killing the better. They are barbarians....and have been for a LONG time.

No one wants them for a very good reason!

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Nov 16, 2023 20:17:28   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
ACP45 wrote:
And I stand by my statement Blade. Just to be clear, when I say " Israel is a criminal state bent on destroying the Palestinian people", I am referring to the Zionist government in Israel. There are many Israeli Jews who are of like mind.
Zionist or no Zionist government, the Israelis ARE NOT engaged in genocide of the Palestinian people, they are engaged in finally eradicating the Islamic terrorism that has surrounded them for 75 years.

I just told you the IDF provided safe passage out of the battle zone for, at last count, 900,000 Palestinian civilians;
I imagine the number is over 1 million by now. If the Israelis, Zionist or no Zionist, were "bent on destroying the Palestinian people", this fight would be over.

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Nov 16, 2023 20:28:45   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
EmilyD wrote:
You need to think about why it is that no country wants these Arabs. Egypt? nope. Jordan? Nope. Both countries have adamantly stated they will NOT be accepting "refugees" from Gaza. Hamas (which the people of Gaza elected) is not a peace-keeping organization, obviously. And they have shown that they not only want to kill people, they want to butcher them....slaughter them....in front of each other and their family members. The more gruesome the killing the better. They are barbarians....and have been for a LONG time.

No one wants them for a very good reason!
You need to think about why it is that no country ... (show quote)


Sort of the same as no country wanting Jews???🤔

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Nov 16, 2023 20:29:36   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Zionist or no Zionist government, the Israelis ARE NOT engaged in genocide of the Palestinian people, they are engaged in finally eradicating the Islamic terrorism that has surrounded them for 75 years.

I just told you the IDF provided safe passage out of the battle zone for, at last count, 900,000 Palestinian civilians;
I imagine the number is over 1 million by now. If the Israelis, Zionist or no Zionist, were "bent on destroying the Palestinian people", this fight would be over.
Zionist or no Zionist government, the Israelis ARE... (show quote)


Wonder where they'll send them???

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Nov 16, 2023 20:45:43   #
okie don
 
Beware of those who say they are Jews but lie...
Revelation 2:9 & 3:9

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Nov 16, 2023 21:56:05   #
Radiance3
 
ACP45 wrote:
Actually, THEY!

Here are the answers for all those fact checkers out there!

1. Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.
2. Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
3. Retired Israeli brigadier general Arieh Biro, The New York Times, August 21, 1995
4. " Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988
5. Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.
6. Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.
7. Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.
8. Ariel Sharon to Amos Oz, editor of Davar, Dec. 17, 1982
9. Menahim Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts". New Statesman, 25 June 1982.
10. Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.
11. Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.
12. Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.
13. Golda Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969.
14. David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.
15. David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.
16. Ariel Sharon, In an interview with General Ouze Merham, 1956.
17. Ariel Sharon, In an interview with General Ouze Merham, 1956.
18. � Moshe Shertok-latter Israeli Foreign Min-in a letter to Goldmann, 15 June 1948
19. David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff.
20. Yosef Weitz of the Jewish National Fund, diary entry, 1940
21. David Ben Gurion, in a letter to his son, 1937
22. Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine, Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.
23. Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"

Following is a compilation of selected quotations from prominent Israeli and Zionist figures that embodies the discourse of hatred, racism, and rejection that nurtured Israeli society throughout the short existence of Israel.

This language of negation of Palestinian existence and blatant disregard to the very humanity of the Palestinian people is perhaps the most dangerous aspect of Israeli and Zionist policies.

Perhaps, the most significant aim of this document is to draw attention to the futility of this discourse. It is imperative that political leaders and prominent figures in any society promote principles of mutual respect, tolerance, and humanism, in order to nurture a more constructive outlook.

MY COMMENT: Some may choose to label me an "anti-semite" for reporting what a number of Israeli prime ministers, government officials, or military leaders have publically stated in the past. To them I would simply say there is a profound difference between being an "anti-semite" and an "anti-zionist".

http://www.miftah.org/Doc/Factsheets/Other/mar11a2k3.html
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Muslims are mostly liars and every statement they provide are not reliable especially those googled on the internet. Israel did not have a short live on that land. The whole land of Canaan belongs to Israel, offered by God to Abraham and his descendants after God had tested the true faith of Abraham to God.

Canaan was occupied by the descendants of Canaan the son of Ham; the people were all disobedient to God and they lived all in violations of God. God allowed Joshua to defeat and drive away the Canaanites after returning from Egypt to the promised land.

At present the occupants of Canaan are the Gaza strip, the West Bank, Israel, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. All these lands belong to Israel.

In 1948, when the British occupation in Jerusalem ended, the UN had created a nation for Israel and the Jewish people mostly returned to their homeland.

Prior that period many tribes have attacked Israel, and they were dispersed and scattered to many parts worldwide in Europe. After the UN declared their independent nation in 1948, most of them returned to their homeland of Israel.

The first war (1948–49) began when Israel declared itself an independent state following the United Nations' partition of Palestine. Protesting this move, five Arab countries—Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria—attacked Israel. The conflict ended with Israel gaining considerable territory. Israel won the war.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 43/177 was adopted "acknowledging the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the Palestine National Council on 15 November 1988. PLO was replaced by the name Palestine.

At present there are about 2 million Palestinians living in Israel. About 21% of the Jewish population. Most of them have chosen Jewish citizenship and working for Israel. These Palestinians prefer living in Israel given stable jobs, and treated kindly.

Under president Trump:
The Abraham Accords had bilateral agreements on Arab–Israeli normalization signed between Israel and the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain on September 15, 2020.

The Abraham Accord was successful for 3 years, until Iran ruined the whole thing using Hamas, and Hezbollah attacking Israel.

Under President Trump, in Dec. 2017, Jerusalem was named capital of Israel.

While Israel is being annihilated by Iran, the Biden administration gave Iran $10 billion dollars, and escrow held in Iraq.

The Biden administration also gave Iran $6 billion to release US prisoner of War in Iran. After that Iran had lots of weapons to provide Hamas and Hezbollah attacking Israel.

Biden won't sign the approved Congress aid for Israel of $14.3 billion unless the $61.4 billion for Ukraine is approved by Congress.
Biden gave Palestine $100 million all went to the hands of Hamas in Gaza.

As the IDF penetrates inside Gaza, it was fully discovered that Hamas used the Hospital buildings are their headquarters and all ammos kept under the buildings. They launch their attacks to Israel from the bunker of the hospitals using the hospital patients and staff as shields.

EDF has been helping Palestinians seek refuge and given provisions and all essentials to use. Hamas are preventing them to leave because they use the Palestinians are their shields against the IDF.

Annually, US fund several Muslim countries in the Middle East with billions of dollars.

Countries that receive the most U.S. foreign aid in 2023:
Afghanistan ($4.89 billion)
Israel ($3.3 billion)
Jordan ($1.72 billion)
Egypt ($1.46 billion)
Iraq ($960 million)
Ethiopia ($922 million)
Yemen ($809 million)
Columbia $600 million

If Jordan attacks Israel, US must stop aid to Jordan. Right now, Hezbullah launch rockets to Israel coming from Jordan and Lebanon.

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Nov 16, 2023 22:07:05   #
okie don
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Muslims are mostly liars and every statement they provide are not reliable especially those googled on the internet. Israel did not have a short live on that land. The whole land of Canaan belongs to Israel, offered by God to Abraham and his descendants after God had tested the true faith of Abraham to God.

Canaan was occupied by the descendants of Canaan the son of Ham; the people were all disobedient to God and they lived all in violations of God. God allowed Joshua to defeat and drive away the Canaanites after returning from Egypt to the promised land.

At present the occupants of Canaan are the Gaza strip, the West Bank, Israel, Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon. All these lands belong to Israel.

In 1948, when the British occupation in Jerusalem ended, the UN had created a nation for Israel and the Jewish people mostly returned to their homeland.

Prior that period many tribes have attacked Israel, and they were dispersed and scattered to many parts worldwide in Europe. After the UN declared their independent nation in 1948, most of them returned to their homeland of Israel.

The first war (1948–49) began when Israel declared itself an independent state following the United Nations' partition of Palestine. Protesting this move, five Arab countries—Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, and Syria—attacked Israel. The conflict ended with Israel gaining considerable territory. Israel won the war.

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 43/177 was adopted "acknowledging the proclamation of the State of Palestine by the Palestine National Council on 15 November 1988. PLO was replaced by the name Palestine.

At present there are about 2 million Palestinians living in Israel. About 21% of the Jewish population. Most of them have chosen Jewish citizenship and working for Israel. These Palestinians prefer living in Israel given stable jobs, and treated kindly.

Under president Trump:
The Abraham Accords had bilateral agreements on Arab–Israeli normalization signed between Israel and the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain on September 15, 2020.

The Abraham Accord was successful for 3 years, until Iran ruined the whole thing using Hamas, and Hezbollah attacking Israel.

Under President Trump, in Dec. 2017, Jerusalem was named capital of Israel.

While Israel is being annihilated by Iran, the Biden administration gave Iran $10 billion dollars, and escrow held in Iraq.

The Biden administration also gave Iran $6 billion to release US prisoner of War in Iran. After that Iran had lots of weapons to provide Hamas and Hezbollah attacking Israel.

Biden won't sign the approved Congress aid for Israel of $14.3 billion unless the $61.4 billion for Ukraine is approved by Congress.
Biden gave Palestine $100 million all went to the hands of Hamas in Gaza.

As the IDF penetrates inside Gaza, it was fully discovered that Hamas used the Hospital buildings are their headquarters and all ammos kept under the buildings. They launch their attacks to Israel from the bunker of the hospitals using the hospital patients and staff as shields.

EDF has been helping Palestinians seek refuge and given provisions and all essentials to use. Hamas are preventing them to leave because they use the Palestinians are their shields against the IDF.

Annually, US fund several Muslim countries in the Middle East with billions of dollars.

Countries that receive the most U.S. foreign aid in 2023:
Afghanistan ($4.89 billion)
Israel ($3.3 billion)
Jordan ($1.72 billion)
Egypt ($1.46 billion)
Iraq ($960 million)
Ethiopia ($922 million)
Yemen ($809 million)
Columbia $600 million

If Jordan attacks Israel, US must stop aid to Jordan. Right now, Hezbullah launch rockets to Israel coming from Jordan and Lebanon.
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Interesting history.

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Nov 17, 2023 05:38:03   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Wonder where they'll send them???


... or if they will ever be allowed to return? Define "ethnic cleansing". One can legitimately ask the question if this was the plan all along. Do a web search on the term "THE GREATER ISRAEL PROJECT ".

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Nov 17, 2023 06:58:08   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
ACP45 wrote:
... or if they will ever be allowed to return? Define "ethnic cleansing". One can legitimately ask the question if this was the plan all along. Do a web search on the term "THE GREATER ISRAEL PROJECT ".


I'm aware of the greater Israel project

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Nov 17, 2023 07:17:18   #
EmilyD
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sort of the same as no country wanting Jews???🤔

The Jews did not start the this war.

The Arabs made their bed…they elected Hamas knowing full well what they were about. They are savages. They only have themselves to blame for the dilemma they have put themselves in.

Again…no one wants them for a reason. It’s not me that decided this.

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Nov 17, 2023 18:30:45   #
Radiance3
 
ACP45 wrote:
And I stand by my statement Blade. Just to be clear, when I say " Israel is a criminal state bent on destroying the Palestinian people", I am referring to the Zionist government in Israel. There are many Israeli Jews who are of like mind.


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AC45, you are wrong. All Jews in Israel are Zionists. These are the people who strived for Israel's independent state.

Israel owned the whole land of Canaan now occupied by Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, the Gaza strip. West Bank, and Israel. God gave Canaan to Abraham a reward to Abraham's descendants for being faithful and obedient to God.

Israel is a tiny piece of land about 8.555 sq miles. There are only 9.364 million living in Israel, 2 million of them are Arabs or Palestinians working there. These Palestinians have chosen Jewish citizenship. They prefer to live in Israel because they are given jobs and are treated kindly like their own. The true Jewish in Israel is only about 7.364 million.

Tiny Israel is surrounded by 315 million Muslims occupying land of 5 million sq. miles.

All Muslims wanted to totally eradicate the Jewish people. Every war that happened in Israel wars were started by the Muslims. This latest one on Oct. 7th, was a genocide similar to the holocaust in Germany.

There had been 14 wars Israel was attacked by the Arabs. 12 Victories, 1 defeat, one stalemate, the Oct. 7 still going on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Israel

All of the wars were started by the Arabs or Muslims.

Why they hate Israel. Despite of the tiny piece of land Israel occupy in the ME, the Muslims wanted to completely destroy them. Why do Arabs, Muslims and Germans hate Israel?

Israel is made up of only 9,174,528 total world population about .011% of the total world population. But why does all the Muslims want to kill Israel? They are jealous of Israel. Jews are very smart people. Perhaps God made them that way.

Among the world population most of the scientists are Jewish. They are also very successful on most financial matters. They are experts on capitalism and productivity that made them the most successful entrepreneurs of all world population. Wherever they live they succeed. They work hard and all the children are trained to be productive. Race is not the issue here. It is about jealousy, why they hate Israel, so they want to eliminate Israel.

I think Muslim AC45 is also jealous of Israel.

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Nov 17, 2023 21:39:08   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
EmilyD wrote:
The Jews did not start the this war.

The Arabs made their bed…they elected Hamas knowing full well what they were about. They are savages. They only have themselves to blame for the dilemma they have put themselves in.

Again…no one wants them for a reason. It’s not me that decided this.


Debatable...

It's weird that Israel supported Hamas if they were aware of how savage they are...

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