This is for some of Hamas apologists.. Please explain how you can defend this????.. 40 babies beheaded by Hamas terrorists. (Page 6): Both sides?? Really?? How's that??... Did...

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LogicallyRight wrote:

I was just making some observations and comments. Not advocating for either side. Both sides are wrong.

Logically Right

Both sides?? Really?? How's that??... Did Israelis burned people alive?? Did Israelis beheaded Palestinian babies' heads??? There's NO sides when it comes to animals like hamas!!.. Sorry, but I totally disagree with your statement this time!

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

Justice101 wrote:

All those who live in Gaza have the same mindset: their hatred for the Jews and Christians, and they won't recognize Israel's right to exist-per the 1993 Oslo Acords.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Oslo-Accords

https://israeled.org/plo-israel-recognize-others-existence/

Many are just innocent people trapped by time and circumstance. Hamas has the guns and they will kill any opposition from within Gaza or without.

Speaking of accords, where you in favor of the Minsk accords meant to stop the killing in Ukraine? The Ukrainians violated them from day 1. Used them to rearm and train their military for their next killing spree. Russia didn't.

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Fit2BTied wrote:

This is not cut and dried. On the one hand, I decr... (show quote)

Sorry, I do NOT agree !.. Small country like Israel surrounded by enemies on every side has a right to do what EVER it takes to survive!!..

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

Radiance3 wrote:

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And we have to give America back to the Indians. Bull Schitte. And Bull Schitte that Israel and Palestine belongs to the Jews because they had it 2000 years ago. They lost it. Period. That the Untied Nations let them claim a part of Palestine after what happened in WWII is lucky for them. But that doesn't give them a right to continually steal and confiscate land that they think is theirs in perpetuity.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

jimpack123 wrote:

Wow Logically right for once you are correct. Except That the Middle east will never be completely safe as you have said for yourself they truly hate each other. You could put one group on the NorthPole and the Other at the South Pole and they would still fight Sad isn't it

It is.

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LogicallyRight wrote:

And we have to give America back to the Indians. Bull Schitte. And Bull Schitte that Israel and Palestine belongs to the Jews because they had it 2000 years ago. They lost it. Period. That the Untied Nations let them claim a part of Palestine after what happened in WWII is lucky for them. But that doesn't give them a right to continually steal and confiscate land that they think is theirs in perpetuity.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

Fit2BTied wrote:

This is not cut and dried. On the one hand, I decr... (show quote)

***I will condemn the violence on both sides, but I think we'd be wise to hold on to our emotions and see how this plays out.
>>>Damn good point.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

proud republican wrote:

Both sides?? Really?? How's that??... Did Israelis burned people alive?? Did Israelis beheaded Palestinian babies' heads??? There's NO sides when it comes to animals like hamas!!.. Sorry, but I totally disagree with your statement this time!

Here is how it is both sides. Did Gazans burn people alive, or just Hamas? Did Gazans behead Israeli babies, or just Hamas? There's only one side when it comes to the perpetrators of the worst crimes committed by Hamas. They were horrible. But the people of Gaza didn't commit those crimes. They have no love for Hamas either. Like you have no love for democrats, but we can't get rid of them. If biden unleashed nuclear war on Russia, should Russia kill us in a retaliatory strike because we can't get rid of the democrats. You are Jewish and running on hatred today. The same kind of hatred you condemn in the Palestinians. Calm down and look at the whole picture. Israel win take its revenge. And in the process create many more militants, family members of those that suffer in Israel's revenge. And it will happen again some day. Revenge doesn't cure anything.

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LogicallyRight wrote:

Here is how it is both sides. Did Gazans burn peop... (show quote)

So your suggestion is for Israel to stand down?? And fyi, you don't have to be Jewish to hate what is happening to Israelis.. And fyi, I blame Hamas 100%.. I am sorry that some Palestinians are stuck in the middle.. It's not Israel's fault..Hamas using Palestinian people as their shield, so I'm very sorry that innocent people die, that war!.. And please don't calm me down! I fricking know ALL about hate... That is why I will ALWAYS stand with ISRAEL!..

Fit2BTied Loc: Texas

proud republican wrote:

Sorry, I do NOT agree !.. Small country like Israel surrounded by enemies on every side has a right to do what EVER it takes to survive!!..

Your opinion matters and I support your right to express it. But please don't depend on MSM (which Fox is now a card carrying member of) for all of your information. The video clip in this article has an added humorous audio track, but that doesn't deter from what CNN is attempting to do.
https://redstatenation.com/video-cnn-staging-dramatic-live-reporting-of-a-barrage-of-rockets-on-their-team-what-happens-at-the-end-is-just-hilarious/

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Fit2BTied wrote:

Your opinion matters and I support your right to e... (show quote)

I do not depend on MSM to know that Hamas is horrible inhumane savages.. You probably did not know, but I have cousin in Israel..

Radiance3

LogicallyRight wrote:

And we have to give America back to the Indians. Bull Schitte. And Bull Schitte that Israel and Palestine belongs to the Jews because they had it 2000 years ago. They lost it. Period. That the Untied Nations let them claim a part of Palestine after what happened in WWII is lucky for them. But that doesn't give them a right to continually steal and confiscate land that they think is theirs in perpetuity.

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America's history is different than the Jewish God's people. European Christian settlers from Europe came to settle, develop, and to provide civilization to the world. America helped the Indians. At the beginning Indians fought. But that is natural, and later on they learned and benefitted more when European settler came. They were educated, and the modern civilized ways of life.

In addition, you and I benefitted coming to America. All of us came from different parts of the world. We all are benefitted by the sacrifices of the early settlers and the Founding principles of this nation.

Europeans did not slaughter Indian children, did not burn their babies. America did not kill their parents and stripped women's clothes and dragged them around, parading all over, then kill them. Europeans did not burn their children and cut off their heads. The Hamas Muslims did all that to the Jewish people. Do you justify that?

Fact is the Indians had improved their lives learned and civilized from the European settlers. Now the Indians were given their own land and now most of them have enjoyed the progress of their lives to civilization.

Many Indians are Christians and are equally grateful that the settlers came to America. Many Christians missionaries came over and helped them as well.

Indian settlers came from the Asian continent some 30,000-12,000 years ago.

The Muslim barbaric savages massacred the Jewish, and the Christians, and others who don't belong their violent brain.

What they did recently to the Jewish people are Worse than the holocaust, and the 9/11 Muslim terrorist attacks in NYC. Do you justify them.?

God gave that land of Canaan to Israel.
Another popular understanding of Israel as the Promised Land comes from Genesis 17, where God's covenant with Abraham and his offspring is affirmed, and God promises to be the God of Abraham's offspring and gift them the land of Canaan for “a perpetual holding.”

Muslims just got in and killed the owner who were vested by God to live there. Until now do you justify Hamas and Iran killing the Jewish people to eliminate all of them, and completely take their own land?

Are you happy that Hamas armed by Iran are killing the babies, burning them alive and chopping off their head. Talib like that, and she defends Hamas doing it. And I think 99% Muslims or those with Muslim blood agree to chop off the head of the Israel babies. The are supporting Hamas.

Right now, with the illegal invites of Joe Biden 8 million plus about 1.8 million of them got out, thousands among them could be Muslim terrorists. Talib is happy about that. Do you have a Muslim family why you support them?

Muslims are savage criminals. Muslims have killed more than 270 million people in the name of their god. Read this: The Tears of Jihad. Political Islam by Dr. Bill Warner, PH. D and professor.

Fact was the Jewish people want to live peacefully with the Palestinians. But Hamas and Iran wanted to completely destroy them.
It is natural that they have to defend their own people and land. Who started these atrocities but Hamas. And yet you called the Jewish people bullshit? You must be a Muslim like Talib!

Fit2BTied Loc: Texas

proud republican wrote:

I do not depend on MSM to know that Hamas is horrible inhumane savages.. You probably did not know, but I have cousin in Israel..

ANYONE who does horrific things, whatever the reason deserves to face justice. The problem is that 90% of the people living in Gaza are NOT Hamas. And they're paying the price for being in the wrong place. I don't agree with much of what the average Palestinian believes, but most don't deserve what's happening to them any more than Hamas's victims did.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

Fit2BTied wrote:

ANYONE who does horrific things, whatever the reason deserves to face justice. The problem is that 90% of the people living in Gaza are NOT Hamas. And they're paying the price for being in the wrong place. I don't agree with much of what the average Palestinian believes, but most don't deserve what's happening to them any more than Hamas's victims did.

I said it before and I will say it again..My problem is not with Palestinian people, but Hamas..I am very sorry that these people are put in this situation, but what do you expect for Israel to do when Hamas murdered over 200 people at the concert and then going door to door butchering children, women and babies??..Israeli people had to ffg right back!!

Justice101

Radiance3 wrote:

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Since the beginning from Noah:

The Canaanites, many of them descendants of Canaan the son of Ham. Ham was the son of Noah who failed to help his father when asleep naked due to have taken too much of the grape wine.

Ham told his 2 brothers Shem and Jaffet who took care of their father Noah and covered him with a blanket.

Canaan was cursed by God. The land of Canaan where why lived was given instead to the children of Israel. The promise of God to Abraham after his faith was tested by God offering his son Isaac in the land of Moriah.
Genesis 17: 8
https://biblehub.com/genesis/17-8.h
And to you and your descendants I will give the land where you are residing—all the land of Canaan—as an eternal possession; and I will be their God.

http://godswarplan.com/allotment-promised-land-joshua-13-24-conquest-canaan-12-tribes-land-division-israelite-settlements

When the Jews returned from Egypt, Joshua was ushered to settle in the land of Canaan, their eternal possession given by God.

What comprises Canaan?
Land and Time - Canaan & Ancient Israel @ University of Pennsylvania Museum of Archaeology and Anthropology.

The land known as Canaan was situated in the territory of the southern Levant, which today encompasses Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, Jordan, and the southern portions of Syria and Lebanon.

So, the Muslims living in Southern Levant don't own the land.
The West Bank, Gaza, Jordan, Southern portion of Syria, and Lebanon. All these belong to the Jewish people when God gave them the whole land of Canaan. These Muslims living at this land are all invaders.

When the British ended its settlement in Jerusalem, helped Jewish return to Israel.
Creation of the Nation of Israel in 1948.
On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day.

At that time, in 1948, Palestinians have no country of their own! They are squatters and invaders.

It was only in 1988 the Palestine National Council meeting in Algiers proclaimed the establishment of the State of Palestine, at the land owned by the Jewish people.

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DNA from the Bible's Canaanites lives on in modern Arabs and Jews
A new study of ancient DNA traces the surprising heritage of these mysterious Bronze Age people.
BY ANDREW LAWLER
https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/history-and-civilisation/2020/05/dna-from-the-bibles-canaanites-lives-on-in-modern-arabs-and-jews