The crucifixion of Jesus did not fulfill prophesy (Page 4): Isaiah 63:4. "For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come". Isaiah 61:2. "To proclaim the...

susanblange Loc: USA

Marty 2020 wrote:

The Bible mentions the day of vengeance, let’s see, zero times.

Isaiah 63:4. "For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come". Isaiah 61:2. "To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God..."

susanblange Loc: USA

Radiance3 wrote:

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How did Isaiah fulfill Jesus' death.

Isaiah 53:8
He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

https://www2.cbn.com/article/tragedy/isaiah-53-and-passion-jesus

Isaiah says: "The righteous one, my servant, will bring a righteous standing to many people; and their errors he himself will bear." Indeed, Jesus' death provided the ransom so that the burden of sin can be lifted from all faithful people. —Isaiah 53:8, 11; Romans 4:25.

Isaiah 700 years before perfectly prophesied the coming of Jesus.
https://groundworkonline.com/series/and-he-shall-be-called-how-isaiah-describes-the-messiah#:~:text=Much%20of%20the%20hope%20and,expect%20him%20to%20be%20like.

https://www.cliffsnotes.com/tutors-problems/Religious-Studies/35853202-Read-Isaiah-5213-5312-This-is-a-prophecy-of-Jesus-Christ-It-was/

AND HE SHALL BE CALLED:
HOW ISAIAH DESCRIBES THE MESSIAH

Wonderful Counselor
As we anticipate Jesus Christ’s birth this Advent season, discover the divine wisdom and help we receive from Jesus Christ our Messiah.

AND HE SHALL BE CALLED: HOW ISAIAH DESCRIBES THE MESSIAH

Mighty God
As we continue to anticipate and think about the birth of Jesus Christ, we encounter Isaiah’s second name for our Messiah: Mighty God. Discover what this title meant to Isaiah's original audience and what it means for those of us who recognize Jesus Christ as the Messiah in our lives toda

AND HE SHALL BE CALLED: HOW ISAIAH DESCRIBES THE MESSIAH

Everlasting Father
The prophet Isaiah describes the Messiah as an “Everlasting Father.” Now that we know the Messiah is Jesus Christ, the Son of God, how are we supposed to understand that title?

AND HE SHALL BE CALLED: HOW ISAIAH DESCRIBES THE MESSIAH
Prince of Peace
What does it mean to declare and proclaim Jesus as the Prince of Peace? Considering the present brokenness and pain in our world, when can we expect this peace to prevail?

AND HE SHALL BE CALLED: HOW ISAIAH DESCRIBES THE MESSIAH

A Light Shining in Darkness

In the Bible, the coming of the Messiah is often associated with light. Let's explore the promises this light brings and what it means for how we live as people of the light while we wait for Jesus Christ's second coming.

Here is the one that followed that Jesus was the light.

John 1:
The Word Became Flesh
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 He was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
. 4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness, to bear witness about the light, that all might believe through him. 8 He was not the light but came to bear witness about the light.

9 The true light, which gives light to everyone, was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the world did not know him.
11 He came to his own, and his own people did not receive him.
12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son[d] from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, “This was he of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.’”)
16 For from his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace.
17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
18 No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known.

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The Messiah is the Lord God of Israel incarnate. "Wonderful Counsellor" means a gifted trial lawyer. God has caused wars to cease. She ended the Cold War and also ended the civil war in Ireland between the Protestants and Catholics. She is the "Prince of Peace". Psalm 46:9. "He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth..." Jesus did not come to bring peace. He came to bring war and division and to strengthen the wicked. The NT says Jesus is kind to the unthankful and to the evil. He came to complete the will of the one that sent him. This was Satan/Adam. What role does God the father play in Christianity? The Messiah is the Mighty God, and the Everlasting Father.

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

susanblange wrote:

Isaiah 63:4. "For the day of vengeance is in mine heart, and the year of my redeemed is come". Isaiah 61:2. "To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord, and the day of vengeance of our God..."

I stand corrected, but you’ve been taking things out of context.

Radiance3

susanblange wrote:

The Messiah is the Lord God of Israel incarnate. &... (show quote)

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The Prince of Peace is the Lord Jesus Christ. The Counselor, the Light of the World, the Mighty God. 700 years before Jesus was born, Isaish had already prophesied about Jesus.

Who is God? God the Father, God the Son, and God, the Holy Spirit One God, forever and ever. Amen!

So many Jewish now believe that Jesus is the son of God and sits at the right hand of the Father.

susanblange Loc: USA

Marty 2020 wrote:

I stand corrected, but you’ve been taking things out of context.

I think you're projecting, Marty. The scriptures are very clear and plain to me.

susanblange Loc: USA

Radiance3 wrote:

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The Prince of Peace is the Lord Jesus Christ. The Counselor, the Light of the World, the Mighty God. 700 years before Jesus was born, Isaish had already prophesied about Jesus.

Who is God? God the Father, God the Son, and God, the Holy Spirit One God, forever and ever. Amen!

So many Jewish now believe that Jesus is the son of God and sits at the right hand of the Father.

If you believe that God is a trinity, your god suffers from a multiple personality disorder. If Jesus bodily rose from the dead, he's a Zombie. Revelation 3:9. "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie...". What role will God the Father play in the Kingdom of God? Glory belongs to God and he will not give his praise to idols. Jesus is Satan's counterfeit messiah. Most of the OT has already been fulfilled.

Radiance3

susanblange wrote:

If you believe that God is a trinity, your god suffers from a multiple personality disorder. If Jesus bodily rose from the dead, he's a Zombie. Revelation 3:9. "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie...". What role will God the Father play in the Kingdom of God? Glory belongs to God and he will not give his praise to idols. Jesus is Satan's counterfeit messiah. Most of the OT has already been fulfilled.

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You can believe what you want. Because you don't believe in Jesus Christ. But I do.
God is One, but consist of the God the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit, One God forever.

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

susanblange wrote:

If you believe that God is a trinity, your god suffers from a multiple personality disorder. If Jesus bodily rose from the dead, he's a Zombie. Revelation 3:9. "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie...". What role will God the Father play in the Kingdom of God? Glory belongs to God and he will not give his praise to idols. Jesus is Satan's counterfeit messiah. Most of the OT has already been fulfilled.

Well Paul said that if Jesus rose then we also rise, otherwise there’s no blessed hope. God is a triune God, 3 in 1. You are missing the most important part of Christianity. Woe to you!
Corinthians 15:15

susanblange Loc: USA

Marty 2020 wrote:

Well Paul said that if Jesus rose then we also rise, otherwise there’s no blessed hope. God is a triune God, 3 in 1. You are missing the most important part of Christianity. Woe to you!
Corinthians 15:15

The whole purpose of the resurrection is to conquer and transcend death. In the scriptures, Earth is called "the land of the living". Heaven and Hell are the realm of the dead. It has always been God's plan to live on earth forever. The third Judgment is called "The Day of Decision". Joel 3. Everybody on earth who has rejected and fought against the Messiah and Jerusalem will be cut off by fire. If you cling to your idols until the end, you're not going to make it. Zechariah 14:12. "And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth". The entire heavenly host will participate in the resurrection with God. Zechariah 14:5. "...and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee".

susanblange Loc: USA

Radiance3 wrote:

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You can believe what you want. Because you don't believe in Jesus Christ. But I do.
God is One, but consist of the God the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit, One God forever.

Jesus is Lucifer, Satan's counterfeit messiah and you are his prisoner. The name means "morning star" and that is who Jesus claimed to be. Revelation 22:16. Jesus made himself equal to God and he's been kicked out of Heaven and reincarnated. Isaiah 14:12-17. How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God, I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most high. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit...that opened not the house of his prisoners?"

Radiance3

susanblange wrote:

If you believe that God is a trinity, your god suffers from a multiple personality disorder. If Jesus bodily rose from the dead, he's a Zombie. Revelation 3:9. "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie...". What role will God the Father play in the Kingdom of God? Glory belongs to God and he will not give his praise to idols. Jesus is Satan's counterfeit messiah. Most of the OT has already been fulfilled.

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You believe like the Muslims, Susan. Except Muslims believe that they must cut off heads of infidels unless they believe in alah.
That is your god.

Here is to Who I do believe.
The Nicene Creed:

NICENE CREED (Professed at Sunday Mass)
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and
unseen.

We believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father.
God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God; begotten not made, one in being with the Father.

Through Him all things were made. For us men and for our salvation He came down from heaven. By the power of the Holy Spirit, He was born of the Virgin Mary and became man.

For our sake He was
crucified under Pontius Pilate. He suffered, died, and was buried. On the third day He rose again, in fulfillment of the Scriptures.

He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He
will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and His kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the Giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son, He is worshipped and glorified. He has spoken through the prophets.

We believe in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. Amen.
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Please don't make me wrong. I respect all Christians. and love them as Jesus asked me to do. And I don't judge them until they start denigrating me.

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

susanblange wrote:

The whole purpose of the resurrection is to conque... (show quote)

Heaven is not the realm of the dead. You are a heretic!

Radiance3

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Go ahead, worship Alah, the god of Muslims.
They created that during the 7th century AD by Mohammad. Sound exactly like yours.

susanblange Loc: USA

Marty 2020 wrote:

Heaven is not the realm of the dead. You are a heretic!

The righteous dead will inherit the Kingdom of God. This includes meekness as opposed to pride. The Hebrew word for soul is nephesh and it means "life". The blood is the life of the flesh. Eve also means "life". No one has ever come back from the dead. The death of the soul/body is permanent. When we die, the soul separates from the spirit. The heart and reins are part of the soul. The reins are the kidneys and they purify the blood. The heart pumps the blood. The Brain is part of the soul, the mind is part of the spirit. People in Heaven will participate in the resurrection with God. Zechariah 14:5. Spirit, or ruach
means breath (inside the body), and wind (outside the body) The Book of Life will contain the names of those who are righteous and love and fear the God of Abraham. Oxygen is the life force. It is the reason for breathing, and the blood carries oxygen to the cells of the body.

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

susanblange wrote:

The righteous dead will inherit the Kingdom of God... (show quote)

I wonder who’s name will be blotted out of the book of life?