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Jun 25, 2023 07:40:20   #
Big dog
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sorry Padre...Some of what you said was once true... Times change...

What free nations are sleeping securely???
They're all staring down the barrel of ww3...

And the USSR did more to defeat Nazi Germany than the US... Our version of history notwithstanding...

Since the 70s the US certainly hasn't done much to stabilize the world...
Did you bring peace and security to the ME?? Northern Africa??? Southeast Asia???
Central America??? South America???
How about Europe when NATO was bombing Serbia??? Or the Maidan coup in the Ukraine???

American aid comes with strings attached... And fewer and fewer nations are interested in playing that game...

America leaving the world to govern itself sounds good to me...
Sorry Padre...Some of what you said was once true.... (show quote)


America leaving the world to govern itself? Really. That seems like removing all the hall monitors in an inner city school, like removing the referee in a boxing match, like telling the school bully he’s free to play with all the kids.
I don’t think it’s a good idea.

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Jun 25, 2023 08:48:39   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
proud republican wrote:
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/salazar-cuba-florida/2023/06/23/id/1124761/


China will use the Cuba thingy....to exchange for the island of Taiwan!

Leverage....indeed! [ Political swapping}...Biden just gets richer?

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Jun 25, 2023 08:52:04   #
Big dog
 
[quote=Ronald Hatt]China will use the Cuba thingy....to exchange for the island of Taiwan!

Leverage....indeed! [ Political swapping}...Biden just gets richer? [/quote]

Makes good sense

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Jun 25, 2023 09:14:44   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sorry Padre...Some of what you said was once true... Times change...

What free nations are sleeping securely???
They're all staring down the barrel of ww3...

And the USSR did more to defeat Nazi Germany than the US... Our version of history notwithstanding...

Since the 70s the US certainly hasn't done much to stabilize the world...
Did you bring peace and security to the ME?? Northern Africa??? Southeast Asia???
Central America??? South America???
How about Europe when NATO was bombing Serbia??? Or the Maidan coup in the Ukraine???

American aid comes with strings attached... And fewer and fewer nations are interested in playing that game...

America leaving the world to govern itself sounds good to me...
Sorry Padre...Some of what you said was once true.... (show quote)


"What free nations are sleeping securely???
They're all staring down the barrel of ww3"


Howdy Kyle.

MAD, Kyle, MAD. The USA nuclear umbrella.

"And the USSR did more to defeat Nazi Germany than the US... Our version of history notwithstanding."

The Russian winter did more to destroy the Germans than Russian troops and Russia was equipped with American armament.

"Since the 70s the US certainly hasn't done much to stabilize the world...
Did you bring peace and security to the ME?? Northern Africa??? Southeast Asia???
Central America??? South America???
How about Europe when NATO was bombing Serbia??? Or the Maidan coup in the Ukraine??? "

SEA was America's efforts to stop the creep of Communism. There was little difference between Korea and SEA except geographical location. If Truman hadn't been a coward and allowed MacArthur do what he was prepared to do, China would be free today. Regarding SEA, cowardly Democrats and their horrible emerging strategy of benevolent rules of engagement was a strategy for losing wars and killing American military. Regarding the ME, America was attacked by radical Islam. We lost more Americans on 911 than Pearl Harbor. Truthfully, in my opinion, we didn’t retaliate in the severity required. Once again, Obama and his rules of engagement was a factor. When the enemy does not wear a uniform it's not up to the American soldier to try and differentiate the enemy from a citizen.

You're going to get your wish. America is well on it's way into the crapper. If I was a clear thinking citizen in another nation, as I watch America goes down my reaction would be "O Shit!" I know that China will now become the world's super power and they will not be benovolent as was the USA. They use the iron fist.

The force that will probably destroy America is Marxism under the neo-Marxist Progressive Party AKA, Democrats. China knows and uses these same Marxist tactics. In concert with Democrats they are using them against us right now.

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Jun 25, 2023 09:55:33   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Absolutely...
The one thing we can trust about America and its military bases is that they won't be used for war...
Totally precautionary...
Nothing screams "peace" like surrounding someone with weapons


They call it peace through strength. 😉

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Jun 25, 2023 10:23:17   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Big dog wrote:
America leaving the world to govern itself? Really. That seems like removing all the hall monitors in an inner city school, like removing the referee in a boxing match, like telling the school bully he’s free to play with all the kids.
I don’t think it’s a good idea.


When you make the school bully the Hall monitor🤔🤔🤔

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Jun 25, 2023 10:32:09   #
Kevyn
 
solarkin wrote:
yes indeed ,The great American presence is everywhere ,except where it is needed most ,right here on our homeland


The Capitol police did just fine countering the traitorous insurrection. Our military is well deployed where they are.

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Jun 25, 2023 10:32:54   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
padremike wrote:
"What free nations are sleeping securely???
They're all staring down the barrel of ww3"


Howdy Kyle.

MAD, Kyle, MAD. The USA nuclear umbrella.


Works both ways and always has...

Quote:
"And the USSR did more to defeat Nazi Germany than the US... Our version of history notwithstanding."

The Russian winter did more to destroy the Germans than Russian troops and Russia was equipped with American armament.


Russia took more casualties than any other nation... And freed more nations from German control than any other nation...

Quote:
"Since the 70s the US certainly hasn't done much to stabilize the world...
Did you bring peace and security to the ME?? Northern Africa??? Southeast Asia???
Central America??? South America???
How about Europe when NATO was bombing Serbia??? Or the Maidan coup in the Ukraine??? "

SEA was America's efforts to stop the creep of Communism. There was little difference between Korea and SEA except geographical location. If Truman hadn't been a coward and allowed MacArthur do what he was prepared to do, China would be free today. Regarding SEA, cowardly Democrats and their horrible emerging strategy of benevolent rules of engagement was a strategy for losing wars and killing American military. Regarding the ME, America was attacked by radical Islam. We lost more Americans on 911 than Pearl Harbor. Truthfully, in my opinion, we didn’t retaliate in the severity required. Once again, Obama and his rules of engagement was a factor. When the enemy does not wear a uniform it's not up to the American soldier to try and differentiate the enemy from a citizen.
"Since the 70s the US certainly hasn't done m... (show quote)


America was attacked by radical Islam🤔🤔🤔🤔
You mean after you interfered in how many Muslim nations??? Iraq.. Iran.. Afghanistan..
It wasn'tsoldiers placingsanctions that killed millions... That'sa cop out.. It's almost as though you think those nations had no right to respond (Of course it was Saudis behind 9/11, but that's cool...Keep selling them weapons)

Yes... You guys retaliated by invading Afghanistan and Iraq...Two nations not involved in 9/11... Would have made more sense to retaliate against the actual perpetrators... 😣😣😣

Quote:
You're going to get your wish. America is well on it's way into the crapper. If I was a clear thinking citizen in another nation, as I watch America goes down my reaction would be "O Shit!" I know that China will now become the world's super power and they will not be benovolent as was the USA. They use the iron fist.


China's history of non interference in other nations is a mark against them..certainly... The fact that they engage in trade without demanding nations change their laws/culture/ideals is pretty totalitarian...

Quote:
The force that will probably destroy America is Marxism under the neo-Marxist Progressive Party AKA, Democrats. China knows and uses these same Marxist tactics. In concert with Democrats they are using them against us right now.


No... It will be willful ignorance and blind arrogance... A sad end to a great nation...

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Jun 25, 2023 10:37:55   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
When you make the school bully the Hall monitor🤔🤔🤔


China is currently in 151 nations raping their natural resources, building bases of operation, lending them money and charging exorbitant interest rates. Who's the bully again?

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Jun 25, 2023 10:39:29   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
padremike wrote:
China is currently in 151 nations raping their natural resources, building bases of operation, lending them money and charging exorbitant interest rates. Who's the bully again?


Buying resources...
Building infrastructure...
What are the interest rates??? (did you check🤔)

The bully is the nation that keeps sanctioning any nation that won't obey it..

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Jun 25, 2023 10:41:21   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No... It will be willful ignorance and blind arrogance... A sad end to a great nation...


Kyle, honest question, are you a Marxist?

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Jun 25, 2023 10:44:08   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
padremike wrote:
Kyle, honest question, are you a Marxist?


No.. I despise Marx... And his ideology...

China isn't a Marxist country...

It's more fascist... Totalitarian... With certain aspects that are purely Chinese...

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Jun 25, 2023 10:55:28   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No.. I despise Marx... And his ideology...

China isn't a Marxist country...

It's more fascist... Totalitarian... With certain aspects that are purely Chinese...


Are you ok with your country being fascist, totalitarian??..🙄

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Jun 25, 2023 10:56:34   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Buying resources...
Building infrastructure...
What are the interest rates??? (did you check🤔)

The bully is the nation that keeps sanctioning any nation that won't obey it..


China charges somewhat high interest rates for emergency credit to middle-income countries in distress, typically 5 percent. That compares with 2 percent for loans from the I.M.F., the new study found.Mar 27, 2023.

I can't find any other interest rates for lending money for infrastructure for example. I expect what they do for emergency loans will be reflected in other loans.

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Jun 25, 2023 10:58:53   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
No.. I despise Marx... And his ideology...

China isn't a Marxist country...

It's more fascist... Totalitarian... With certain aspects that are purely Chinese...


You deny that China is Communist? A neo-communist undeniably, yet nevertheless Communist?

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