Rose42

And the left has no real answer to the problem either. Their ‘solutions’ are like putting a finger in a dam to stop it from bursting. They talk about change but refuse to face the underlying issues.

Justice101

You asked about suggestions regarding laws, and I commented that we already have enough red flag laws that aren't being followed. You, along with others on the left think that banning guns is the only answer to the problem, but it will only leave the criminals and a few police armed. Criminals don't follow the law. It may be because those on the left have demanded the defunding of the police. If there aren't enough police to see law and order being followed in their cities and towns, then how are we to expect the resources to follow up on the reports of domestic disturbances involving the mentally ill if/when they get reported?

If they make family members responsible for the actions of their loved ones in these mass shootings, you might see the numbers go down. It's sad to believe that the parents of some of these shooters knew that there were mental problems and that they turned a blind eye to the fact that their "loved one" had access to a gun or guns and didn't report them to the proper authorities. Failure to report laws with charges attached in the commission of a murder or mass casualty.

American Vet

One might add that a criminal does not need to be armed with a gun to be very dangerous......

coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp

How many cop bars get robbed? If there was a cop bar robbery attempt, how do you think it worked out for the robbers? Have robbers EVER planned a cop bar robbery? If no, why?

coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp

WOW! If guns are killing people, we should get rid of them, huh? Most murders are committed by felons with long rap sheets in just a few zip codes. Maybe zip codes are the problem after all is said and done? Moron logic dictates moron outcomes, like we have now. Fifty years ago, I could have had a Thompson sub-machine gun delivered to my house by the US Postal Service and there were no out-of-control maniacs running the streets shooting people. What changed?

coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp

Americans don't have "military style" weapons, only in the gun-grabber's dreams.

coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp

Lies. Prove it with REAL numbers, not made-up ones.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Think again buddy, the thompson was banned, I believe in the 20s. 50 years ago would be 1970..

As for zip codes, you may have a point, those areas of the south are notorious for shooting kids in the drive ways and for ring the door bell..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

You are now clued into the sales pitch that gun mfg use to move those assault "style" civilian guns.. ask any district manager, if he is truthful , he will tell you the very same thing.. the reason for the most popular mass killing tool is Dollars.....$$$$$$$$$ And I find that flat out disgusting...

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

True story.. not sure if this bar was a cop bar, but several off duty cops made it a stopping point.. and we , 4 of us who worked in the freight office of a nearby RR would on occasion do the same.. now this happened when we were not on the premises... But they did have a gun battle in the place.. a fight not a robbery and a "good guy with a gun" felt the cops , who were in civvies, needed help, pulled his gun and shot a few round.. in the ruckus and confusion, the cops shot and killed him... that removes a lot of need to be the good guy with the gun for most people..

but in general, of course your point is real.. did they use that idea in a movie?? could make it exciting at least..

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

I wonder how mom and dad feel about that???

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

The handgun is by far "the most popular mass killing tool".
In less than 3% of all mass shootings is a rifle of any type used.

Gun manufacturers do not pitch their sales of firearms based on a political definition of any particular type of gun.

The AR15, for example, has been used far more often in defense of life and property than it has in the commission of a crime.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-laws/policy-areas/hardware-ammunition/assault-weapons/

Assault weapons with large-capacity magazines have become the weapon of choice for assailants seeking to perpetrate mass casualty attacks for a reason. These uniquely dangerous firearms are equipped with features that facilitate mass shootings, and must be regulated accordingly.

Background
Summary of Federal Law
Summary of State Law
Key Legislative Elements
Assault weapons, especially assault rifles, are typically semiautomatic versions of weapons created for deadly battlefield purposes. They are designed and equipped with features that enable mass killing, including sustained, high-volume rapid fire shooting at large numbers of people in a short period of time. The availability of unusually dangerous weaponry like assault weapons and large-capacity magazines has fueled an alarming increase in high casualty mass shootings across the nation. Perpetrators of many of the deadliest shootings in modern American history—including in Las Vegas, Orlando, Sandy Hook Elementary School, Sutherland Springs, El Paso, Robb Elementary School, Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, Aurora, and Dayton—used assault weapons equipped with large-capacity magazines. These unusually dangerous weapons also expose law enforcement officers to heightened risk from gunmen wielding increasingly high-powered combat grade weapons on civilian streets.

I doubt your
stats... while I do agree the handgun is the most poplular gun for criminal of any sort.. the mass killers want the most killing in the shortest time.. And that demands the right tool for the job, so the choice is clear, the assault style is the go to gun..

ssault weapons are typically a subset of semi-automatic firearms with features designed to enable shooters to repeatedly fire at large numbers of people quickly. They are a relatively new class of weapon—during the 1980s, the gun industry sought to reverse a decline in consumer demand for guns by developing and marketing new types of weapons based on high-powered military designs.1 Between 1994 and 2004, a relatively narrow federal assault weapons law placed some restrictions on the sale and manufacture of some “semiautomatic assault weapons.” This federal law expired in 2004. Though the US House of Representatives passed legislation in 2022 to renew and strengthen this assault weapons law, that legislation has not passed the US Senate and there is currently no federal law restricting the sale, manufacture, or possession of assault weapons.



Wounds caused by assault weapons are more severe and lethal than wounds caused by other firearms, and, particularly when paired with large capacity magazines, assault weapons can injure more people more quickly.

Assault weapons have been used in the seven deadliest mass shootings in the last decade.
An analysis of public mass shootings resulting in four or more deaths found that more than 85% of such fatalities were caused by assault rifles.2
An assailant with an assault rifle is able to hurt and kill twice the number of people compared to an assailant with a non-assault rifle or handgun.3

coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp

Your math is as good as your logic. Check the gun control act of 1968.

coelacanth Loc: Michigan swamp

You know, trying to make sense to the senseless is a fool's errand have a moronic day, dude.