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What does it take for republican's to create a bill-law to protect Americans from gun violence? How many must die?
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May 25, 2023 01:02:20   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Cuda2020 wrote:
Fact, places with less guns have less k*****gs. Since we can't control people and their actions, have no guns, easy fix.
If people cannot be controlled, how is controlling a specific kind of weapon gonna stop them from k*****g?

Criminals for Gun Control

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May 25, 2023 01:27:57   #
NunyaBizness Loc: Humboldt County California
 
All it takes is exposing the FBI for the t*****rs they are....
They have a program that used to be named COINTELPRO and the CIA had a program called MK-Ultra.
Both programs were ordered to be discontinued in 1975 unfortunately, they didn't get the memo cause nobody was held accountable.
They changed the name and put much of the work in the hands of private security and volunteer groups and with the help of Google it is now a new kind of monster and is responsible for all mass shootings in this country..
Our intelligence agencies didn't just let us down they sold us out.
Any government without oversight and accountability is a ticking time bomb..
Stop the FBI, stop the massshootings, save our country and the world from the holocaust that has already started..
Wish I was wrong

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May 25, 2023 01:38:55   #
NunyaBizness Loc: Humboldt County California
 
Of course the FBI ignored them...They made him..
They cause the shootings by psychologically torturing American citizens for years. Then at some point that person snaps and if the feds are really lucky they pick up a gun and k**l a bunch of the people that have been harassing them then cops k**l them and they take away more rights from the rest of the population that has done nothing wrong..
Unf**king believable but true I assure you.
There are thousands of us in this country.
I've been targeted for 10 years...

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May 25, 2023 02:47:12   #
Loneeyes Loc: Texas
 
In 2022 19 children and 2 adults were gunned down with I believe a rifle as they were getting ready for the end of school.
It took somewhere between eleven and 20 hours for them to identify those babies bodies the wounds were so horrific.

Innocent lives literally wiped out in a matter of 45 or so minutes. Those children 's wounds mangled their bodies so bad one child had to be identified by her sneakers.

We grew up with guns from the start of this country , To hunt, to eliminate varmits , to protect our loved ones even. In the 60's and 70's guns were a tool you had in a gun rack in the truck. We knew how to shoot .,how to clean one , and how the ammo was made .

There were rules you obeyed when you handled guns . Nowadays I would venture to say children aren't given the lessons that we got. The gun sits in the closet and the parents say "Don't or you better not touch the gun ." That makes it so appealing. Especially if your dealing with a bully at school and nobody stops the humiliation that comes with bullying. Kids see gun on video games and tvs solve the dilemma for the day so hey I'll stop the problem with the gun if nobody will make it stop .

I'm gonna get off my soap box now and say the education of weapons for our children starts at home . If you don't teach them they will repeat what they see on tv or videos, or the streets,

It's a good thing the Tommy gun is no longer in service .Baby face Nelson had a field day with his some 80 or 90 years ago. And I believe he was touched in the head .

Right left or in between the generations that are up and coming need an education about a lot of things . But then again the parents need to know what to teach and so on .
Guns are mainly for protection . If we give up our right to bear arms we will be helpless to defend our selves and frankly I don't want a concentration camp or reservation for my home or stand helplessly by when we are lined up and shot because we have no firearms.

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May 25, 2023 03:46:28   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Loneeyes wrote:
Nowadays I would venture to say children aren't given the lessons that we got. The gun sits in the closet and the parents say "Don't or you better not touch the gun ."



















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May 25, 2023 07:31:18   #
American Vet
 
Candy Girl wrote:
Dear Cuda2020,
Passing stricter gun laws does not work, I am sure you are aware that the States with the strictest gun laws have not prevented a person who has no moral compass, or respect for the rule of law. I wonder how many people are aware of someone who is violent with a proven track record of hurting people and looking the other way because it did not involve them personally.

I wonder how many times a person has to threaten someone before action is taken. I have witnessed people who walk past those who are lying in the streets in a drug-induced state and give no thought as to why a person would choose this kind of life.

There used to be mental wards in every hospital back in the 1980s I know this because as a nurse I witnessed firsthand the closing of mental health hospitals with patients being discharged to live in the streets. Why did this happen, insurance companies no longer wanted to cover mental health stays due to the cost.

Gun laws do not fix the problem, get people into rehab, or off the streets, promote respect of self and being a productive member of society. There was a time when people cared about one another and offered a helping hand. Today those hands provide free drug zones, let those who choose to destroy property that is not theirs without consequences for their actions.

If you want to stop the shootings then get involved with your community, and report those who are verbally and physically assaulting people. There is a lot to be said about being "your brother's keeper".
Dear Cuda2020, br Passing stricter gun laws does ... (show quote)



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May 25, 2023 10:19:49   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
permafrost wrote:
You will twist my words all day long, but what I said are facts/opinion and common sense..


Well said perm

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May 25, 2023 13:22:14   #
American Vet
 
LostAggie66 wrote:
Well said perm


Quite to the contrary - not well said at all. His comments have been dissected and shown to be incorrect.

Please list the ones that you think were "well said"......

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May 26, 2023 09:17:53   #
LostAggie66 Loc: Corpus Christi, TX (Shire of Seawinds)
 
American Vet wrote:
I keep asking for a solution which does not require removal of our guns and never have I gotten an answer..
Several have been offered. Start with these:

Use a gun to commit a crime - 10 years in a federal penitentiary - no time off for any reason - and this in addition to wh**ever sentence is prescribed for the crime itself.

Commit a violent crime - 5 years as above. And an in depth psychiatric evaluation with the possibility one would be confined to a psychiatric facility. When treatment completed - serve the time.

3 strikes - you're out - commit 3 of the above crimes and it is off to jail for life - no parole, no time off.



Regulation is not removal of peoples guns.
And there are laws regulating possession now. Odd that criminals do not follow the laws - isn't that amazing??

Now you all can echo, "it is a mental problem" not a gun problem.... OK.. now give a plan on how to deal with that mental problem.. it sounds plausable,, let us hear the nut and bolts of the plan... How we gonna do it??
See above.

If you truly think you need a description of a military style you will have to accept someone description.. all of you right wingers never propose a description and if you get one you simply say "the military does not have a designated assault gun" and refuse the description given no matter how detailed and often used..
If one is going to make a law banning something, one needs to be very accurate in what is going to be banned. That is just common sense. So far, YOU have not defined/described what an "assault gun" is. Take a look at the photos I posted.

I suggest you dig up a copy of the crime reduction act of the 90s and use the description that was used for limiting certain guns for about 10 years until the gun lobby owned all the republicans and refused to fund the act.. end of a good idea.
And I suggest that you go back and look at the photos I posted.
i I keep asking for a solution which does not req... (show quote)


AmVet I agree with your ideas for reducing gun violence. We Do need Federal laws and required sentences for using a firearm in committing a felony

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